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The Sun ran an article today showing the salaries and contract status of Utd players, it’s such a damning assessment of the signing and wages, most of which can’t be moved due to exactly that. Woodward, ETH etc etc have submerged the club in debt and excess expense. INEOS may look like incompetent, but perhaps the real issue is the lack of control on contracts and wages made previously, players that can’t be sold or even loaned without considerable expnxe to the bottom line are an ongoing drain and lead weight to the club.

Glazers and Woodward and their Disneyland comparisons will haunt the club until someone can bring it all under control, that can’t be achieved without pain and time. INEOS certainly paid for a poisoned chalice and is obvious. Stop blaming SJR and understand he may actually need to cut expenses and get the club run properly, as it hasn’t been since the Glazers got control and put Man Utd into a spiral of self funded debt.
 
oz insomniac said:
The Sun ran an article today showing the salaries and contract status of Utd players, it’s such a damning assessment of the signing and wages, most of which can’t be moved due to exactly that. Woodward, ETH etc etc have submerged the club in debt and excess expense. INEOS may look like incompetent, but perhaps the real issue is the lack of control on contracts and wages made previously, players that can’t be sold or even loaned without considerable expnxe to the bottom line are an ongoing drain and lead weight to the club.

Glazers and Woodward and their Disneyland comparisons will haunt the club until someone can bring it all under control, that can’t be achieved without pain and time. INEOS certainly paid for a poisoned chalice and is obvious. Stop blaming SJR and understand he may actually need to cut expenses and get the club run properly, as it hasn’t been since the Glazers got control and put Man Utd into a spiral of self funded debt.
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You mean cut expenses by extending ETH’s contract then sacking him thus doubling his and his staffs pay off ? Cutting expenses by paying Newcastle £5 million for Ashworth to run the footballing department then pay him £4 million just a few months later when Ashworth left ?


Cutting expenses by spending £180 million on players for ETH after a pathetic internal review to keep him then sack him a few weeks after ? Cutting expenses by bringing Amorim and his staff in even though the guy running the footballing department was against it due to tactics being an ill fit and Amorim himself not wanting to come mid season ?
 
oz insomniac said:
The Sun ran an article today showing the salaries and contract status of Utd players, it’s such a damning assessment of the signing and wages, most of which can’t be moved due to exactly that. Woodward, ETH etc etc have submerged the club in debt and excess expense. INEOS may look like incompetent, but perhaps the real issue is the lack of control on contracts and wages made previously, players that can’t be sold or even loaned without considerable expnxe to the bottom line are an ongoing drain and lead weight to the club.

Glazers and Woodward and their Disneyland comparisons will haunt the club until someone can bring it all under control, that can’t be achieved without pain and time. INEOS certainly paid for a poisoned chalice and is obvious. Stop blaming SJR and understand he may actually need to cut expenses and get the club run properly, as it hasn’t been since the Glazers got control and put Man Utd into a spiral of self funded debt.
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INEOS and their people are doing it too. The entire package we offered for Leny Yoro is reportedly more than double that which Real Madrid was willing to pay for the player. Our lack of success and proper project means we have to pay over market rates for our players.
 
davidmichael said:
You mean cut expenses by extending ETH’s contract then sacking him thus doubling his and his staffs pay off ? Cutting expenses by paying Newcastle £5 million for Ashworth to run the footballing department then pay him £4 million just a few months later when Ashworth left ?


Cutting expenses by spending £180 million on players for ETH after a pathetic internal review to keep him then sack him a few weeks after ? Cutting expenses by bringing Amorim and his staff in even though the guy running the footballing department was against it due to tactics being an ill fit and Amorim himself not wanting to come mid season ?
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Looks like you know the exact figures so could you kindly provide evidence that Sacking Ten Hag in the summer would have cost £5m?

Secondly, the reports came out last week that we paid £12m to get rid of Ten Hag which included all the other staffing costs including getting rid of Ashworth.

Could you show where it was £9m for Ashworth and £15m for Ten Hag?
 
oz insomniac said:
INEOS certainly paid for a poisoned chalice and is obvious. Stop blaming SJR and understand he may actually need to cut expenses and get the club run properly, as it hasn’t been since the Glazers got control and put Man Utd into a spiral of self funded debt.
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Like the Labour Party inheriting a shitheap from the Tories, and copping all the blame from the angered consequences.
Big Ben Foster said:
IMO Qatar fecked up by telegraphing the amount of money they had available to spend on the stadium and infrastructure post-acquisition, as if that mattered to the Glazers in any way.
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It's good to see more and more people pick up on this.

Hopefully, quite a few will factor this embarrassing incompetence when championing Qatar on these pages.
romufc said:
Could you show where it was £9m for Ashworth and £15m for Ten Hag?
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Whoever leaked to the so-called Athletic or Guardian or whoever the information ten Hag was to be clipped before the FA Cup final is this season's biggest villain.

It put us in such an awkward, unmanageable situation and for what? What did the leaker get for their information?

I can only imagine it being a substantial pay-off.
 
davidmichael said:
You mean cut expenses by extending ETH’s contract then sacking him thus doubling his and his staffs pay off ? Cutting expenses by paying Newcastle £5 million for Ashworth to run the footballing department then pay him £4 million just a few months later when Ashworth left ?


Cutting expenses by spending £180 million on players for ETH after a pathetic internal review to keep him then sack him a few weeks after ? Cutting expenses by bringing Amorim and his staff in even though the guy running the footballing department was against it due to tactics being an ill fit and Amorim himself not wanting to come mid season ?
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Noooo. That has nothing to do with INEOS. The feckin Glazers held multiple gun]s to T=Ratcliffe and Braisford et al. And nothing to do with poor forward planning, internal team communications, teamwork or/and due diligence.

Surely not the local lad....
 
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All things considered, its just now petty dick waving..echoes of DOGE across the pond. You dont need even a working knowledge of accounting or even spreadsheets to make these sort of cuts and think isnt it great. The business acumen is understanding the consequences on business performance of the impacts on morale. And if theres one thing that can be said for performances on the pitch over the last 12 months, is a complete breakdown in players confidence and morale. Is there a link between general staff morale and that in the dressing room? i dont know, but youd think there may be some relationship.

Also makes me wonder theyve benchmarked the working conditions of employees at our competitors.
 
That’ll get us back to the table.

At least we won’t have scurvy with all that free fruit.
 
State of us. Once the richest club is now cutting fruits to save money. Jeez !!
 
Unbelievable. All this cost saving will surely increase the morale of players and the staff.
 
Rolaholic said:


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Thank God the players still get their free lunches, some of them are lucky if they make £50k a week. And more stuff like this will definitely not cause a further divide between everyone.

How toxic must the environment be there nowadays? Bruno wanders in trying to stay positive, says good morning to the staff at Carrington, gets heckled and told "feck off, enjoy your free lunch" by whoever hasn't been sacked (yet). Must be a great place to work at the moment.
 
The lunch thing is lacking context. What do other clubs do? Are we taking away a work perk that is commonplace in football at that level, or becoming more like any other club?
 
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DuruttiColumn said:
To be fair, what workplace gives you free hot meals in 2025?
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How many workplaces give free hot meals to millionaires you're expected to share the canteen with every day? There's a reason why everyone got it for free until now, not just the players.

I wouldn't expect someone like Jim to remember what it's like for the poors. Or maybe he just thinks they're below the players and should suck it up. I'm being overly dramatic, I know, but he's one step away from having staff strip searched to make sure they're not nicking stamps at the end of each day.
 
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Absolutely meaningless moves if you piss away 50+ million quid in the transfer market on bench warmers. You only manage to create a bad atmosphere and give journos the chance to spread bad narratives about the club and management.
 
For goodness sake, RCLens in Ligue 1 provide food to all staf at training facilities free of charge.
 
Squeaky_Bum_Time said:
The lunch thing is lacking context. What do other clubs do? Are we taking away a work perk that is commonplace in football at that level, or becoming more like any other club?
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All clubs in the league offer free food -- its part of the food science regime. I remember watching Watford offering very controlled,prescribed meals for their players after every training session, never mind the match day meals. Food that offers for better recovery.

Otherwise, players like Shaw would be off to the chippy getting his curry & chips right after training.
 
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