I was only responding to the notion of something being free. I have no idea if that's actually true.
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Behave, seriously. Look at the figures from last week and reiterated by MUST this morning. Debt nearly at 1 billion. Interest on the loans means for the next 2 seasons the amount will need to be £52 million that is paid. The debt, in all forms, is that enormous, what on earth is this accomplishing other than constant negativity and bad PR around the club. It must be toxic AF working there right now.
The optics of this in isolation, yes, is to save money. But look at the far bigger picture, and it's barely a drop in an ocean of debt.
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It's that staff are only allowed to now buy soup and sandwiches at the canteen while all hot food is reserved for the players, who get it free anyway. Maybe all staff should pay, but this notion of 'to save money' is nonsense. It will barely save anything, against what we are facing. Like the ticket price increase.
All these cost cutting measures that really are not amounting to anything, and just generating constant negativity around the club. As I said it must be so toxic now.
Love how they are sticking it to these fecking useless employees and showing them their place! They have to show these working class arrogant entitled bastards how meaningless they are, if they want to continue working for the club THEY MUST SUFFER, THEY MUST ENDURE HARDSHIP!This also sends message to anyone out there, Man Utd is no longer an easy place to work, if you expect to just come in, pocket your salary, do your work, get annual merit increase and have some benefits, go somewhere else where they accept this kind of entitlement, I'm sure there are some socialist/communist companies still out there that will give you that.
What an absolute bunch of wankers. Yes this will absolutely have a knock on to the players who I'm sure are already embarrassed by their work and who they are working for. Someone on 25k a year or a volunteer or someone who's been with the club for years and years now has to pay for their lunch while some academy and u23 players and I'm sure agents/football people and guests of INEOS will be given the red carpet. Fergie was a leftie. He made sure everyone was well looked after and that the players showed respect and stayed grounded around the regular staff. Regular staff were also included in any sort of success we had. He spent years fostering a family atmosphere here and It's been totally destroyed. All the glazers had to do was sell to someone who'd pay the debt off and leave us be to sort things out organically. They are sticking around cutting the shite out of everything so they can load more debt onto us, take more money out and sell for even more down the road. This is not about making the club more competitive whatsoever. It's about making more money
These dudes are making Mike Ashley look like Roman Abramovich
These dudes are making Mike Ashley look like Roman Abramovich
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This is classic vulture capitalism. I doubt Jimmy has any intention of getting this club back to the top despite the nonsense he spouts. The aim is to reduce costs and turn short term profits in order to sell us to a higher bidder.
Not that I personally think that they should give a toss about PR if they think the moves they're making are right for the club, but bloody hell they're making it hard for themselves - and giving the press free reign to rip them to shreds.
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I suspect this is what he is doing. This bringing back Manchester into united is nonsense that the naiva fell for.
Was so easy to see that this cnut was full of shit from the moment he boasted about his "British backed bid".
Embarrassing times to be a supporter now for sure.
Embarrassing times to be a supporter now for sure.
Most clubs with respect to its employees provide food free of charge. We have become an ugly form of a capitaliatic soulless corporation.
As British as Thatcher
This is Jimmy's brexit wet dream
Bit late for that, surely?
Many on here demand a theocratic dictatorship take over yet whinging about 'Jimmy Brexit' creating redundancies (this is not an advocation).
Our fanbase is beyond confused.
Manchester United. Everything you used to stand for is being eroded. Its very hard to go from a SAF and that era to what is happening now. It's embarrassing. It's embarrassing being a Manchester United supporter. Everything i found so appealing about this club is being destroyed.
SAF I love you. But this Man United is not the one I fell in love with.
I can't imagine how frustrating this must be for everyone.
It's like having a narcissit lover you hope will change back to the way she used to be when you met. Tought times indeed.
SAF I love you. But this Man United is not the one I fell in love with.
I can't imagine how frustrating this must be for everyone.
It's like having a narcissit lover you hope will change back to the way she used to be when you met. Tought times indeed.
You mean people bave differing opinions, well I never
Why couldnt we look at other clubs, happy profitable clubs who are also sucessful. What do they have that we don't have?
From the non playing side: the main thing is absentee owners and a mountain of debt and shabby working conditions where everything is micro managed or you're just totally left to your own devices. Know deep down that things are inefficient and your work doesn't really count for much. Knowing you are working for a massive company very much on the way down
From the players and football side: knowing everything around you is shabby compared to the competition, playing and preparing in a poor stadium/training conditions, knowing that teammates who aren't motivated won't be moved on or santioned because the owners only care about money, leading on from that knowing that you are never really going to win much and will always be compared to better teams and players that came before you. Knowing you are only there putting up with this for money. Remember when Rooney pulled rank back in 2011? He could see we were rapidly falling behind under the glazers in the post ronaldo years and it was his last chance to move while he was in his prime. He was right in hindsight.
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From the non playing side: the main thing is absentee owners and a mountain of debt and shabby working conditions where everything is micro managed or you're just totally left to your own devices. Know deep down that things are inefficient and your work doesn't really count for much. Knowing you are working for a massive company very much on the way down
From the players and football side: knowing everything around you is shabby compared to the competition, playing and preparing in a poor stadium/training conditions, knowing that teammates who aren't motivated won't be moved on or santioned because the owners only care about money, leading on from that knowing that you are never really going to win much and will always be compared to better teams and players that came before you. Knowing you are only there putting up with this for money. Remember when Rooney pulled rank back in 2011? He could see we were rapidly falling behind under the glazers in the post ronaldo years and it was his last chance to move while he was in his prime. He was right in hindsight.
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The same as that. I can't support this for much longer. Not because we are not winning. Because we have billionaires treating everyone who truly loves the club like shit. The glazers did it in silence. INEOS are just coming out and saying it. It's like they are reveling in all this negativity
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Id like to work where you do. I've never had a free lunch.
There's a lot of socialist guff posted on this forum.
As a ST holder for over 30 years, I'm amazed that we actually have a canteen which offers "Free Meals" to all staff.
Why shouldn't staff pay for their own lunch ?
I pay for my lunch and most of the people who are outraged by this decision, will also buy their own lunch when they are at work as well.
Manchester United isn't a charity or a soup kitchen.
Why shouldn't staff pay for their own lunch ?
I pay for my lunch and most of the people who are outraged by this decision, will also buy their own lunch when they are at work as well.
Manchester United isn't a charity or a soup kitchen.
The Glazers have bled the club dry and now Jim the Rat is removing every last bit of what used to be United.
We used to be a club in the same vein as Real Madrid and Bayern...Jimmy the Rat is doing his best to make sure that is destroyed.
No wonder his right hand man wants everyone to forget about Sir Alex and what this club used to be.
He never said he got a free lunch, he said most clubs offer it.
I have a subsidised canteen at work, it's pretty cheap and high quality. These kind of cost saving measures save a small amount, and result in massive loss of goodwill and morale. Some people at United have probably enjoyed this perk for decades, then get it whisked away by a billionaire, whilst they watch millionaires still enjoying it. You can't be so dense you don't see the impact of that.
If you sprain your ankle dodging a broken leg, are you allowed to complain?
They all need to go, Glazers and Ineos. I get that Ineos was dealt a bad hand but these cuts are crazy, they spent 15 million on getting rid of ETH plus the money he got when he was here after signing a new deal, then paid 11 million to get Amorim in, wasted another 4 on Dan Ashworth. They also signed Zirkzee for 37 million (because forward signings from Italy always pay off - okay, I might be a bit unfair to Zirkzee).
Every position that United fall in the PL will cost the club a little under 4 million as well which is mental when you hear the sum saved from some of these cuts. These guys are clowns, sure they were dealt a bad hand but they are clowns regardless and have already cost the club a chunk of money.
At the end of the day the Glazers are still here and will remain until someone gives them what they want. I doubt Ineos are going to do so and I don't really think that anybody wants them to either.
A word of advice to Ineos... if you treat your staff like shit they will screw you and leak stuff to the press. You deserve every bit of bad press you're getting.
And be sure that ticket prices will be hiked soon - obviously, because at the end of the day, the fans are the only ones that are able to save this mess of a football club by giving them more money. The next step is obvious, fans will have to pay more to see this mess of a team.
Every position that United fall in the PL will cost the club a little under 4 million as well which is mental when you hear the sum saved from some of these cuts. These guys are clowns, sure they were dealt a bad hand but they are clowns regardless and have already cost the club a chunk of money.
At the end of the day the Glazers are still here and will remain until someone gives them what they want. I doubt Ineos are going to do so and I don't really think that anybody wants them to either.
A word of advice to Ineos... if you treat your staff like shit they will screw you and leak stuff to the press. You deserve every bit of bad press you're getting.
And be sure that ticket prices will be hiked soon - obviously, because at the end of the day, the fans are the only ones that are able to save this mess of a football club by giving them more money. The next step is obvious, fans will have to pay more to see this mess of a team.
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To be fair, the players have controlled diets overseen by club doctors, dieticians etc Kaths replaced on reception doesn’t
Getting embarrassing now.
As above, most other clubs are capable of offering this, but we are now so small time we can't.
The comments saying "I don't get free lunch why should they!" somewhat missing the point. How many millions did it cost to get ETH on a new contract, fire him and Ashworth, and buy Amorim out of his contract? Staff lunches are a drop in the ocean. Why should staff and indeed match day goers with ticket costs feel the brunt of those bad decisions? Why should staff and supporters feel the brunt of the Glazers bleeding the club dry for decades?
As above, most other clubs are capable of offering this, but we are now so small time we can't.
The comments saying "I don't get free lunch why should they!" somewhat missing the point. How many millions did it cost to get ETH on a new contract, fire him and Ashworth, and buy Amorim out of his contract? Staff lunches are a drop in the ocean. Why should staff and indeed match day goers with ticket costs feel the brunt of those bad decisions? Why should staff and supporters feel the brunt of the Glazers bleeding the club dry for decades?
Are people seriously thinking that someone bought United thinking it would be a good investment. Jesus Christ. We are a mess, nearly a billion in debt and none of the stuff he has done will change the valuation of the club. The only way United will become a saleable asset is if we play an absolute blinder over the next 5 years and start winning things like the PL and CL.
Another one who uses 'socialism' as an insult without knowing what it means.
Hmm, best run that by Sir Jim....
There sure is. I'd quite strongly advise you to never enter the CE or general forums either.
There must be a nice little Daily Mail comment section somewhere that'd be more your speed, though?
I knew it was going to be bad but I never thought it was going to be this bad
It was damned if we did damned if we didn't. Most people didn't want the likes of Qatar or anyone of that ilk to buy us. Most wanted Ratcliffe in the hopes he would rebuild the club in an ethical way.
Last one out turn off the light, providing Jim hasn't already cut the power.
Last one out turn off the light, providing Jim hasn't already cut the power.
Harry Maguire in a false beard & shades in the background!
Ratcliffe burner account spotted.
The point is its a free lunch at sites that already have to have comprehensive catering facilities anyway.
Am I misreading it? I think the players are still offered all that, it’s everyone else who is affected (coaches, other staff).
Yeah this idea there is some kind of quick profit in Utd by trimming costs and making the books look a bit better is total nonsense. I have no idea what SJR thinks he can accomplish but this isn’t a quick flip to make a profit on his shareholding.
With the current ownership standoff we do essentially need to play a blinder at a time of cutbacks. It’s possible but not very likely.
Every week there's always something with these lot.
TBH I don't see what the fuss is about, why is lunch provided in the first place? Most people don't get a free lunch every day