Cutting the nose to spite the face, then after a year of shite we go all in.
Club Ownership | INEOS responsible for the football side
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Jamie (@Vault Dweller) are here to talk about United's dreadful home defeat at the hands of Big Ange's Tottenham Hotspur. Should this have been the end of Ten Hag? How long does he actually have left? And does Nik finally want ETH out?!
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But why not? For a new top notch stadium that is the price I would pay
Not if its a brand new stadium. That would be a bit odd.
Just make it "<sponsor>'s New Trafford"
A new stadium location need not be called Old Trafford at all (can't think of any such cases). The question really is whether you would go for a whatever named new top notch stadium or would rather have a refurbished <insert brand> Old Trafford, even if the money involved is likely no more than an Amrabat loan.
The financials probably look better for new build than refurbishing and getting upset about renaming OT may just about be the perfect excuse to move altogether and eventually tear it down.
Basically make clubs aware that we are willing to buy their players only for fair value, otherwise we are prepared to walk away. Contrary to how we've operated in the last few years.
You can do that without sulking and buying no one to make a point.
It doesn’t work because “Old Trafford” refers to the area that they are in
Amazing how many people have to be told this.
Have a feeling we could be back in a similar position with our women's team to when they came back in 2018
Yes, but who would care?
I think that could be the long and short of it. Dangle renaming it Sunny Delight... or £4-5/ticket. No brainer.
You just know this will cause even more doubt that they are the right minority owners for the club
Why not both? Ticket prices haven't kept with inflation. Time to bring them back in line and make us more competitive with our own money.
I don't think anyone who cares would care for "New Trafford" featuring in the name of a new stadium.
Would be easy for me to say yes, I don't pay them, and back when I did a £5-10 hike would have made no difference once you accounted for overpriced resale, travel, accommodation, etc. Maybe you could deal with that somewhat treating season tickets differently, dunno.
Fair. I guess I thought I sounded smarter than I really did
Whether Ratcliffe paid much credence to Infinite MUM is unclear, but INEOS started with a particular profile to target: young head coaches playing attractive football who would work in a structure. An ability to create a culture at the club was also high on the agenda, which is why Gareth Southgate had support from some within INEOS given his work with England.
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5543044/2024/06/12/erik-ten-hag-manchester-united-why-not-sacked/
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Hence why I said "being facetious". It can't be ruled out as there comes a number when it's stupid to turn down.
I love it and hate it
Marmite Stadium. Some love it, some hate it.
I would imagine the local fans.
Plus “new Trafford” sounds like a name that a teen would find up with. It’s childish
Correct, New Trafford is an actual place nowhere near Old Trafford
Nice. And I mean the biscuit, Nice. The Nice Stadium.
We need a fully co ordinated fan led campaign against any major price increases.
It would kill off any remaining atmosphere inside Old Trafford.
The Hobnob Stadium.
Anyone who's against recouping 30-40% of the stadium costs from just a naming rights deal, for the sake of pride, needs to get with reality.
Is it ideal? no, but it is foolish to not pursue it.
Is it ideal? no, but it is foolish to not pursue it.
Unfortunately, I have to agree.
At the end of the day, we want the best for the club and keeping the name doesn’t bring us back to where we want.
If we are able to get players at good prices, and we have enough time to do our due diligence, we will finalize some business this year. We’ve already made bids for several players.
Whilst not ideal but selling the naming rights was inevitable at some point. It would still be Old Trafford. Many in Manchester still call Manchester Central the GMEX. The Manchester Arena is still the Manchester Evening News Arena to many.
We should all be more concerned about the price increases mentioned in that Athletic article. There's going to be another big shift in the demographic of match day fans. The players and manager spoke a lot last season about how the fans stayed with them despite some performances. The club has to be careful not to piss those people off.
We should all be more concerned about the price increases mentioned in that Athletic article. There's going to be another big shift in the demographic of match day fans. The players and manager spoke a lot last season about how the fans stayed with them despite some performances. The club has to be careful not to piss those people off.
City have been getting 40m per year from Etihad since 2008 apparently which their fans believe is fair market value so shouldnt our starting point be somewhere around that point?
No complaints so far.
I think even Gary Neville conceded that the new stadium would probably have a sponsor name attached to it in order to generate money. If you hypothetically called it INEOS Old Trafford or something where the ‘Old Trafford‘ name is retained then I don’t think people will mind.
Ha ha, Southgate gets the slightest mention in the article and wasn’t ever considered a serious candidate by anyone.
Simply put, Jimmy Worrall, who founded the networking group Leaders in Sport with Brailsford, was a facilitator of the meetings and Worrall has a long-standing relationship with Southgate, that appears the only reason his name was even mentioned.
But hey, don’t let that stop your doom mongering though mate.
While I don't completely disagree, the fans who all support the team through thick and thin are not all poor fans.
You can't compare with Emirates because they had massive leverage in negociations by frontloading a big chunk of the building costs of the stadium. They also sponsor the game and training shirts.
They used that position to lock us in with them for everything and limit how much they invest in total. If we sold the naming rights alone to another brand it would be a lot more.
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Spurs is called The Tottenham Hotspur Stadium currently. I mean it’s right next door that I don’t know why colloquially you wouldn’t just keep the name. Unless they do in fact keep old Trafford and reduce it in size for the youth and women’s team.
I can't see many Spurs fans up in arms about a different name to that one. It's not just boring, it sort of indicates nobody offered feck all to name it something else.
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