Oh I think we are in huge trouble
City and Financial Doping | Charged by PL with numerous FFP breaches | Hearing begins 16th September 2024
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The wages we pay top earners wouldn't be enough to match their undisclosed additional offshore wages. They'll feck off to PSG or Spain
I bet you’re popular on bluemoon
I once had my own Rag in disguise thread over there. I feel like a centrist, hated by both sides. (The caf and Bluemoon).
In reality I'll stick by City but ya know, sticking by someone doesn't mean burying ones head in the sand.
"Move fast and break things" - Carl Benz
I cant wait for Pep's next presser.
Why? it will be a total non-event. No comment
Yes and yes.
Truth is there are lots of people in the world that think rules are only there for the stupid and everyone with any intelligence will try and get round them if they can. It's nice when they get their come-uppance, doesn't happen often enough, but it's satisfying when it does.
Speaking about this thread. 54 pages of wishfull thinking now
I thought you meant the document of allegations, either way point deductions is the best case city fans can hope for.
Itll be worse imo.
I'd say operating a football club is very risky business, hence why rules were brought in. But you can't have boom-bust cycles for clubs like you do in the corporate world.
And clubs can make it out of the tiers they are in. Brighton and Brentford are two easy examples in the PL right now. Leicester won the league in recent times.
It's not supposed to be easy to make it to the top, that's true for all walks of life, business and sport included. Money doesn't guarantee success either, just look at United for the past decade.
If guilty, big if, if they get got relegated, would they have to comply with ffp in that certain league? As the revenue would be totally different and wages are very high.
Of course it is. You can't be afforded to have two squads which both might challenge for a top 4/title even in FM.
For some 'reason' many of their players have a much lower wages than it should be. And for being a rich but basically no history club most of the time money is the sole reason why the players want to be there.
Are you in the independent comission, and if yes, do you take bribes?
Cheats. Every time the Aguero goal and celebration is shown that should be the word in mind. The big crime is that it wasn't just clamped down earlier.
No comment about spending the biggest spell of his career at a tainted, cheating club. A legacy ruiner
And what do you think about it? If allegations are true, will you walk away from the club?
I'm surprised more hasn't been made about Pep's brother and Girona. That seems a bit dodgy.
But this isn’t a normal economic market. It’s a sporting pyramid which is unique, and you can’t apply the same logic.
I’m not suggesting FFP is perfect, but we have seen in the English pyramid how careless owners destroyed historic football clubs that were important parts of the community through reckless financial mismanagement.
"I'm here to talk about football" etc.
I support Ipswich by the way- if I have a ‘second team’, which I think is a bit of a BS concept anyway, it would be Arsenal.
For me there are two ways the PL is exciting.
1) because Ipswich are in it (fat chance right now), or
2) by having different teams in the ascendancy.
The current state of the Bundesliga and Juve’s dominant decade in Serie A are/were mind numbingly boring despite the lack of oil clubs. If the financial conditions are such that one team dominates for year upon year, even if that money was ‘fairly’ earned, rather than invested, then it’s boring as hell to me.
I’m sure you disagree with me but different people have different concepts of what makes a league exciting.
Upset and angry, but I probably will never be able to walk away no. Hard to predict my mental state of mind if it happens though.
Wishful has one ‘l’. £ as opposed to ££.Speaking about this thread. 54 pages of wishfull thinking now
Are you in the independent comission, and if yes, do you take bribes?
I'm not but after 2 big cases like this they won't slap them on the wrist and say "naughty naughty don't do it again" will they?
Its not just one breach, its over a decade in time span.
I posted earlier that I had seen this on an incredibly obvious joke/meme post on Twitter. It seems some people fell for it.
Yeah he was happy to bury his head in the sand when they promised him unlimited cash to buy a CL, so no reason he'll change now
Pep now to accelerate his departure.
But there were ways to deal with that didn’t involve banning situations like City and Chelsea. It’s so clearly disingenuous to frame this as somehow the only way to stop small clubs going bust. I’m amazed you think Man Utd did anything other than try to guarantee their position at the top of the tree.
In 19/20 Brighton was at €147M revenue, United at €651M. Even if United stopped growing and Brighton growed by 10% per year, they would need 16 years to get to United's level. The problem for Brighton is that the top clubs are actually growing faster than the runner ups.
Let's be real, it is literally impossible to organically grow into a top club. You need capital injections for that to happen.
And now, that really my last post in here
You can support your team and not support the ownership - that's what most United fans do anyway, it's not the fans fault the club broke the rules
For what it is worth, I don't see this ending without huge sanctions to City. How severe I do not know. I'm just saying "they have to get punished this time, it is a open secret" from people that equally don't know is worth very little
He will have to circle the wagons. Squeeze his eyes very tightly, and see only … football. Other people will answer for the oily mess in which his bald head is greased.
Sorry, not my mother tongue, but that was shit mistake I agree
This is true. And considering we have no idea what state the club will be in after all this it is impossible to answer
At least they'll have their massive ticket revenue to fall back on. Oh wait, they'll be gone faster than that guy who thought they were being charged for the length of the grass at the etihad.
Yes that's because there are scores of clubs who have spent well beyond there means over the years then found themselves in all manner of financial trouble off the back of it. Some have ceased to exist and had to be re-born some barely survived but are now a shadow of there former selves.
Yes it does limit a clubs ability to grow quickly but a club can only really grow that quickly with a big cash injection and the question will always be what happens to the club if the plug gets pulled in the finances and the club is left to pick up the bill but can not generate enough revenue of its own back to cope.
Love the end and knockout blow that they were NEVER exonerated. Time bar and limitation on evidence and winning on merit are two totally different things. No CAS here you fecking plastic wankers.
Spend shit, get banned.
Aguero moment is overrated. We knew we lost the league way before the final game as it was a very winnable fixture for City.
Most of them are going with the "Cartel" and "Big 4" schtick, it's desperate clutching at straws.
True fans will support their team/club whatever circumstances they find themselves IMO