City and Financial Doping | Charged by PL with numerous FFP breaches | Hearing begins 16th September 2024

It's very annoying knowing they'll get away with it. At worst they get a big fine and some docked points. Instead of relegating them straight to league 2. This is a black mark on their short history. Even when they'll get away with it, everyone knows they are corrupted as feck.
 
They will get off with it.

Let's not pretend otherwise.

Everyone will go apeshit, the city fans will claim it's all a big conspiracy and we'll all go back to watching the football.
 
I seem to be in the minority, but I think they're going to get fecked. And to the point that City can afford the best lawyers, two things: one, the Premier League can too, but more importantly, two, City's lawyers seem to be particularly adept at dragging things out and it seems like they've finally run out of runway. It also seems like they failed in their efforts at having FFP thrown out due to competition law or whatever.

It'll be interesting, if nothing else.
 
Interesting it is as soon as this - I heard the trial was supposed to begin in November? Wonder why they've brought it forward?
 
If they’re found guilty they’re clearly getting the book thrown at them. The big question is whether they can make it stick.
 
NWOntario said:
I seem to be in the minority, but I think they're going to get fecked. And to the point that City can afford the best lawyers, two things: one, the Premier League can too, but more importantly, two, City's lawyers seem to be particularly adept at dragging things out and it seems like they've finally run out of runway. It also seems like they failed in their efforts at having FFP thrown out due to competition law or whatever.

It'll be interesting, if nothing else.
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I hope you're right. I'm resigned to the fact that they won't get what they deserve, but I just hope they don't get away with another slap on the wrist.
 
Fortitude said:
And "unprecedented" pts deduction, that keeps them in the PL come May.
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Yeah perhaps. In any case something that the PL executives will be able to call the biggest punishment in history but at the same time nothing that will really hurt them.
 
I hope it is relegation just so that I never have to see Pep's stupid smug face in our league ever again.
 
Rado_N said:
Approx 0.000000000000001% chance that happens
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Why wouldn't it?

Surely the PL realizes that after coming down so hard on the likes of Everton, they will need to dish out a fair punishment here or the other clubs are going to be furious.

I personally think if they somehow get away with it, the genuinely big clubs in the league will start talking Super League again. "If they're not going to deal with City properly, we'll form our own league without them". The PL have faced this threat before, and they won't want to face it again.
 
I can’t see why anyone honestly thinks the PL will do the right thing. A fine is about the most they’ll get.
 
Absolutely nothing will happen, Manchester City will just keep dragging it through the courts and beat the PL with money, the PL don’t even come close to how much City can throw at this.

Justice system is great isn’t it.
 
DarkLord1984 said:
Why wouldn't it?

Surely the PL realizes that after coming down so hard on the likes of Everton, they will need to dish out a fair punishment here or the other clubs are going to be furious.

I personally think if they somehow get away with it, the genuinely big clubs in the league will start talking Super League again. "If they're not going to deal with City properly, we'll form our own league without them". The PL have faced this threat before, and they won't want to face it again.
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No chance. They’ll get a fine at worst.
 
DarkLord1984 said:
Why wouldn't it?

Surely the PL realizes that after coming down so hard on the likes of Everton, they will need to dish out a fair punishment here or the other clubs are going to be furious.

I personally think if they somehow get away with it, the genuinely big clubs in the league will start talking Super League again. "If they're not going to deal with City properly, we'll form our own league without them". The PL have faced this threat before, and they won't want to face it again.
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I thought this since the beginning of the Super League rumours, and couldn't understand why they likes of City and PSG were being included in talks at the time.

If there was ever to be a point of a Super League or anything similar, the primary objective should be to set something up without state owned clubs.
 
RedRocket9908 said:
They wont, they have been charged with 115 offences some of which are extremely serious breaches so there is no way it'll just be a fine if they are found guilty.
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And they've spent the last years playing every legal trick they can find to delay and obfuscate. The PL can't let that slide. Abu Dhabi FC are done.

I have absolutely no sympathy for the city fans that have cheered them on all these years.
 
Flying high said:
And they've spent the last years playing every legal trick they can find to delay and obfuscate. The PL can't let that slide. Abu Dhabi FC are done.

I have absolutely no sympathy for the city fans that have cheered them on all these years.
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Any chance they had of leniancy from the Premier League probably went out of the window when they took that rudiculous court action against the Premier League earier this year.
 
I will only accept them returning to pre 2008 trophy count to recognise them as a real club ever again. They're just a rich kid's play thing and their fans have no shame.
 
Marcelinho87 said:
Absolutely nothing will happen, Manchester City will just keep dragging it through the courts and beat the PL with money, the PL don’t even come close to how much City can throw at this.

Justice system is great isn’t it.
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They’ve done that, though. They’ve managed to delay proceedings for literally years. The Premier League is a multibillion pound organization that can afford lawyers just as good as City’s. (Isn't it mad that we have to talk about this? City are such a despicable club.)
 
Not really paid much attention to this as just got the feeling they are going to get let of very lightly once more. The same way the won their case against UEFA a few years ago.

Hope I am proven wrong though
 
My feeling is a direct relegation will pass a problem onto another league that might not be able to handle any possible irregularities City MAY throw up.
And, any lower leagues may not want to accept City also.
I think most likely a deal will be made where City accept some of the charges and the premier league drop, or are unable to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt some charges.

I would guess at a huge fine and a large points deduction, enough to keep them out of the European spots so they are punished for the following European campaign.

Least likely result will be City getting away scot free……. Unless they have irrefutable proof of innocence and in that instance the EPL could be in big trouble themselves, from City’s lawyers and possibly other EPL clubs that have fallen foul of the EPL rules that could be shown to be unlawful.
 
This isn't a court case, so beyond reasonable doubt not needed here at all. Also, they can't do what they did for the UEFA case as they cannot appeal to the court of arbitration for sport.
 
Isn't 115 charges dating back to 2010?
 
If nothing serious happens to Manchester City with 115 breaches.....

- Every club in England can do the same!!!
The door will be open for more cheating.

- The Premier League will be a laughing stock.....their brand will get serious issues in the future!!!!
 
Going to be a huge moment for English football, be interested to see if they can buy there way out of this. As the United fans sang on Sunday, you know what you are...
 
Is there any precedent for a points deduction that extends to more than one season going forward? If they were not relegated three or four times over, is it possible to have a team contend with starting the next three seasons on -30 points? I'd quite like that personally. Would cement that it is all hollow and it would completely feck them over in the medium term.
 
Iffin said:
My feeling is a direct relegation will pass a problem onto another league that might not be able to handle any possible irregularities City MAY throw up.
And, any lower leagues may not want to accept City also.
I think most likely a deal will be made where City accept some of the charges and the premier league drop, or are unable to prove guilt beyond a reasonable doubt some charges.

I would guess at a huge fine and a large points deduction, enough to keep them out of the European spots so they are punished for the following European campaign.

Least likely result will be City getting away scot free……. Unless they have irrefutable proof of innocence and in that instance the EPL could be in big trouble themselves, from City’s lawyers and possibly other EPL clubs that have fallen foul of the EPL rules that could be shown to be unlawful.
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Don't know how many times this has to be repeated. City cannot just be relegated.
 
alexthelion said:
They can be thrown out of the EPL though, which would amount to the same thing.
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They can be expelled or kicked out however you want to put it, then they have to reapply to the football league for membership, who can decide where they start from in the pyramid.

That's not the same as relegation.
 
Flying high said:
I have absolutely no sympathy for the city fans that have cheered them on all these years.
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Me neither. They're honestly the worst fans I've seen in football. If you so much as say a word about City after losing to them, get ready to hear their awful fans all squeal "Cope" at the top of their lungs.

Get ready for the onslaught of relentless mockery if you mention the charges with such lovely sayings like "Show us on the doll where Pep hurt you" "I'm so glad our great club has upset so many people" "LOL Pep has got you all so triggered".

This rotten club has attracted the worst human beings imaginable as fans. Someone said on Reddit that City fans are like kids who play Call of Duty with aimbot and then mock the other team for losing. Pretty accurate description.

I hope City are expelled from the PL for good just to silence their horrible fans.
 
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