The life of a City fan has been insane over the last 30 years
City and Financial Doping | Charged by PL with numerous FFP breaches | Hearing begins 16th September 2024
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) look forward to a new life under Ruben Amorim. What system will we be playing? What players will impress? and how will it all go? We also say goodbye to Ruud Van Nistelrooy and review United's 3-0 win at home against Leicester City.
League 1 then, honestly if guilty thats where we belong and the owners should be forced to sell up and feck off.
Genuinely I don't think that will happen though, I think 100 charges is throwing shit at a wall and seeing what sticks (legit shit maybe? I dunno). Its very likely lots will be dropped and City will argue against some and a few will stick. I could potentially see a 30 point deduction or something where we won't get relegated but enough of a deduction to keep us out of the CL, that likely transfer bans and the PL getting its pound of flesh (big ass fine).
If City get relegated what will happen to all their expensive world class players?
They're already buzzing at the prospect of York away over on bluemoon.
I don’t think there’s doubt that they will be found guilty of at least some (in the least example) breaches, the problem is how heavily they get charged and what precedent it sets.
I haven’t looked through what they’ve been charged with but presumably most are reoccurring over multiple years - so it will be interesting to see how they decide to punish them. Over 100 charges suggests serious offences, but will they punish them per charge (and stack each breach) or group in total? Gonna be interesting
Can we nick 2nd place then?
Leave ?
Martin Tyler must be down in the dumps today.
We can win. Arsenal bound to choke it.
They'll just piss the championship and be back in 1 year?
It seems like more of a tactic to be honest. They've thrown a bunch of stuff at City, which they'll have to go through and disprove one by one, in the meantime the PL know that most of it will come back as bogus but they can look into the 2018-2023 documentation and keep throwing shit their way. Not sure why the PL would take that approach but they're doing it for a reason, possibly a distraction.
About time. This financial doping must he stopped once for all.
I predict the PL having to compensate City for spurious and damaging accusations.
I'm all for housing football refugees like Haaland and Foden in their time of need.
Also strip them off the titles they won. Let them go to second place winner.
Is this why Newcastle have been relatively reserved until now?
Its certainly a roller coaster, its kinda why I'm not overly excited nor worried. Champions League or League 2, all the same to me. Club is the club and if it removes the owners and the shitstorm they bring then I'll be cool with it, if it doesn't I'll be fine with it too. Ideally sticking around the PL under new owners would be my dream solution and we'd actually get a clear idea of what the club is actually worth, had it to be sold.
Well they're being paid a legitimate salary, and then money off the books, so if the money off the books stop that's breach of contract no? Most can probably walk I would imagine. They'd probably have to sign new deals to stay.
Insanity was city fans suddenly turning into propaganda machines for a corrupt and murderous country because they enjoyed shiny new players. All those who became pseudo-experts in finances and human rights, when it was patently clear that a little shit pot club suddenly supposed to be generating more revenue than United and Real Madrid was rubbish. All the paranoia and victimhood they were happy to perpetuate. They;ll get a slap on the wrist again and keep pretending that little old city somehow managed to upset the 'status quo', depsite every big club in europe having a natural sporting fall of while city have been doping the field.
His greatest moment is all a phoney
I mean thanks to the alleged cheating, it’s worth a heck of a lot more than they bought it for. You only have to see that based on the value of the minority shares they’ve sold to external investors in recent years. It’s a multi billion pound asset. Easily.
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So they lose their titles or what?
No doubt that they are guilty, being financed by a corrupt regime.
Chelsea gave a 8.5 year contract to Fernandez to skirt the rules. Clubs are trying to get around the rules, but City is plain corrupt.
Chelsea gave a 8.5 year contract to Fernandez to skirt the rules. Clubs are trying to get around the rules, but City is plain corrupt.
Err how can the Premier League have a rule like that? It’s exactly the purpose of the CAS. To remove the option of CAS is surely against a club’s basic rights?
Do you think we all know the answer and just aren't posting it or something?
I'd imagine it will be a hefty fine + a transfer ban for a couple of windows...... Which will be no deterrent to do it again for other clubs.
If everybody is serious about stopping the issues, it should be a huge points deduction or relegation.
If everybody is serious about stopping the issues, it should be a huge points deduction or relegation.
I think its pretty set in stone or 2018 to 2023 stuff is all above board given what went into analyzing it, also given our success sponsorships can't be called inflated was the argument I saw for nothing happening in recent times. A bunch of these charges will stick, that I'm pretty sure of.
I know the club have said they're surprised but given what we've seen on the pitch I have a feeling we've known this was coming for some time and thats why there is discontent in the dressing room.
Better call Joe Royle.
Only selective ones though, some titles were won fair and square
And our owners are all about the rights of others!
Exactly. Nothing will come of it. They will drag this out for a couple of years, it will end up in front of CAS, and they will say that there is nothing wrong with financial doping. By that time no one will speak about it anymore because it's the 3rd season in a row where Chelsea will have spent 500M+ on transfers.
I think when you consider Pep's erratic behaviour and the players looking like they can't be arsed, I'd say they've known for a few weeks and are now genuinely worried about being docked or playing in league 1. Which is understandable, no one signed up for that.
The PL will be sent packing with their tails between their legs, just like UEFA were. The legal representation that City can afford makes them invincible. They can hire Sepp Blatter as their new chairman and no one will bat an eyelid.
One of, if not the most corrupt team in the world.
One of, if not the most corrupt team in the world.
What do you mean?
All those players are there for their love of the club and the shirt.
Money has nothing to do with why they came to the mighty City.
At least that's what a city fan told me
I feel like you haven't actually read anything that's happened.Exactly. Nothing will come of it. They will drag this out for a couple of years, it will end up in front of CAS, and they will say that there is nothing wrong with financial doping. By that time no one will speak about it anymore because it's the 3rd season in a row where Chelsea will have spent 500M+ on transfers.
Yes, you can read it on their website. It stinks of entitlement.
What about being stripped of titles?
Had a quick search on Transfermarkt because I wanted to have a look at City's spending in their ownership's first three years compared to us.
City
United
Within two seasons City spent more money on players than the owners had bought the club for in 2008. Incredible how that just happened with not a single authority stepping in.
From 2008-11 they were outspending probably the richest and most succesful English club by +400.000.000 euros.
City
| 2008/09 | Net minus of 130.000.000 euros |
| 2009/10 | Net minus of 118.000.000 euros |
| 2010/11 | Net minus of 143.460.000 euros |
| Combined 2008-2011 | = Net minus of 391.000.000 euros |
United
| 2008/09 | Net minus of 37.800.000 euros |
| 2009/10 | Net plus of 77.170.00 euros |
| 2010/11 | Net minus of 12.330.000 euros |
| Combined 2008-2011 | = Net plus of 27.000.000 euros |
Within two seasons City spent more money on players than the owners had bought the club for in 2008. Incredible how that just happened with not a single authority stepping in.
From 2008-11 they were outspending probably the richest and most succesful English club by +400.000.000 euros.