City and Financial Doping | Charged by PL with numerous FFP breaches | Hearing begins 16th September 2024

Rnd898 said:
Juve's recent case for 'false accounting' saw most of the main culprits (Agnelli, Paratici, Nedved among others) get banned from working in football varying 8-30 months. Paratici didn't even work at Juventus anymore but had to step down from his role at Spurs because of the ban.

If City's charges are proven and the club gets hit with some serious punishments, I don't see how any of the individuals high enough in the food chain could walk away with no personal charges against them.
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I think the difference is that our authorities haven't really got the stomach to go that far. Maybe I'm being pessimistic but in this country we specialise in making it look like we're serious about an issue when really we're not. It's like MP's in front of a select committee. It's just a performance.

On top of that there's the broader influence City's owners have across the country.
 
Bluelion7 said:
When TeamViewer sponsored United their offer was greater than the value of their company. Did anyone even care? The rules are different for United
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Is this claim actually true, TeamViewer is currenty valued at £2.4b so its really hard to believe that when they agreed to sponsor us back in March 2021 their offer was greater than their companies value when the offer was only £235m.
 
Cloud7 said:
Not that I'm a lawyer or familiar with these laws, but I am guessing that perhaps they could not go after City for the same issues after the CAS threw it out?
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It is a bit strange that UEFA decided not to appeal the CAS decision when their lawyers advised them they should
 
RedRocket9908 said:
It is a bit strange that UEFA decided not to appeal the CAS decision when their lawyers advised them they should
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Perhaps, but maybe they thought it would be a waste of resources? If CAS threw it out the first time then maybe UEFA assumed they would again. I am just guessing here. UEFA are certainly as bad as FIFA, but I don't think they have any incentive to go easy on city. Prestige is very important to UEFA, and is one of the very few things keeping the looming super league at bay. If they could have, I am sure they would have wanted to throw the book hard at city to show that they are still in control of things.
 
Cloud7 said:
Perhaps, but maybe they thought it would be a waste of resources? If CAS threw it out the first time then maybe UEFA assumed they would again. I am just guessing here. UEFA are certainly as bad as FIFA, but I don't think they have any incentive to go easy on city. Prestige is very important to UEFA, and is one of the very few things keeping the looming super league at bay. If they could have, I am sure they would have wanted to throw the book hard at city to show that they are still in control of things.
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The thing is 2 of the 3 people on the CAS panel were chosen by City so at least if UEFA had have appealed to the Swiss Court the appeal would have heard by a fully independent panel.
 
RedRocket9908 said:
Is this claim actually true, TeamViewer is currenty valued at £2.4b so its really hard to believe that when they agreed to sponsor us back in March 2021 their offer was greater than their companies value when the offer was only £235m.
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That can be looked up very easily. Revenue for 2020 was 460m. IPO in 2019 valued the company at just over €5bn.
 
Fr. Todd Unctious said:
Fecking hell what a muppet :lol:
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Used to listen to the United Stand religiously until around a year ago when they posted a show entitled “Kane Bid!!”. Clearly implied that we were moving for Harry Kane. Then the show started and it was “so COULD we make a bid for Kane?” And “Would Harry Kane come to is IF we made a bid”.
Then when he was called out on it called everyone idiots if that was what they assumed.
 
JEire said:
Used to listen to the United Stand religiously until around a year ago when they posted a show entitled “Kane Bid!!”. Clearly implied that we were moving for Harry Kane. Then the show started and it was “so COULD we make a bid for Kane?” And “Would Harry Kane come to is IF we made a bid”.
Then when he was called out on it called everyone idiots if that was what they assumed.
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Yeah they are at it again today with the United agree 34 million transfer thumbnail BS
 
RedRocket9908 said:
Is this claim actually true, TeamViewer is currenty valued at £2.4b so its really hard to believe that when they agreed to sponsor us back in March 2021 their offer was greater than their companies value when the offer was only £235m.
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They were valued at $2.71 billion in 2021, they're currently worth less than that. So the claim is simply not factual.
 
JEire said:
Used to listen to the United Stand religiously until around a year ago when they posted a show entitled “Kane Bid!!”. Clearly implied that we were moving for Harry Kane. Then the show started and it was “so COULD we make a bid for Kane?” And “Would Harry Kane come to is IF we made a bid”.
Then when he was called out on it called everyone idiots if that was what they assumed.
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Getting tricked by obvious clickbait at this point isn't something I'd readily admit. It's simply part of the business model, has been for many years.
 
Judas said:
Getting tricked by obvious clickbait at this point isn't something I'd readily admit. It's simply part of the business model, has been for many years.
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As I said I listened to all the shows. Didn’t click for the title. Was listening regardless. Wasn’t “tricked” into anything.
 
the most blatant corruption in top level sports, being allowed to dull and fade by time.
 
Wonder how Troyes fans feel? Their club is just a vehicle to further the ambitions of a vanity project.
 
So he was just on loan at Girona? So they are buying him from Troyes?
 
Why is the tweet specifically calling the parent club Girona when the mass view is that the parent is Troyes? It's an odd thing to specifically call out - nobody reported Bayern buying Kane from his parent club Spurs. Feels shady.
 
stevoc said:
So he was just on loan at Girona? So they are buying him from Troyes?
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A player from a Ligue 2 club who's spent the last 2 seasons "on loan" at top division clubs in other countries, then moves to one of the best teams in Europe, without ever having played for his real parent club in Ligue 2.

It has to be about getting around work permit rules, at the very worst it's basically just human trafficking.
 
City aren’t content with historical nefarious activities; they are even now, flagrantly taking the piss and keeping themselves in the spotlight at a time when they should be keeping as low a profile as humanly possible.

You’d normally say this beggars belief, but with City, it’s just par for the course.
 
Oranges038 said:
A player from a Ligue 2 club who's spent the last 2 seasons "on loan" at top division clubs in other countries, then moves to one of the best teams in Europe, without ever having played for his real parent club in Ligue 2.

It has to be about getting around work permit rules, at the very worst it's basically just human trafficking.
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Are you suggesting Man City would resort to nefarious dealings to circumvent the rules of football?

Surely not.
 
kaiser1 said:
Redbull clubs do this and no one seems to care

Didn't Zhirkov transfer from CSKA to Chelsea when both were owned by Roman
That is the goal of the multiclub entities
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People care. It was highlighted as an issue during the Sesko saga last summer.

Unless you mean the media - in which case, yes, their complicit silence on this is just another area where they fail in their most basic journalistic duties. No surprise there.
 
kaiser1 said:
Redbull clubs do this and no one seems to care

Didn't Zhirkov transfer from CSKA to Chelsea when both were owned by Roman
That is the goal of the multiclub entities
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when a farmer farms, no one looks at the plough.
 
kaiser1 said:
Redbull clubs do this and no one seems to care

Didn't Zhirkov transfer from CSKA to Chelsea when both were owned by Roman
That is the goal of the multiclub entities
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Rightly or wrongly, people seem to 'care' more (get annoyed by it) the bigger and more successful the club / person is doing it.

I was thinking it was out of order when Watford were doing so many transfers between them, Udinese and Granada. And, as you say, the Red Bull teams. The City groups actions should have raised a lot more red flags than it has done. As some have said on here, there'll be a lot more talk / outrage about it if United start doing similar with the other Ineos clubs.

It's something that's been allowed to seep into Football, I imagine because the clubs doing it have mostly been nouveau riche clubs who are looking to challenge the elite ones, and so people have been quite happy to see them succeed (up to the usual point that they, in turn, join the 'big nasty teams at the top').
 
bosskeano said:
why??

i mean if fecking City can get away with it having nothing said or done about it....why not utilize that same model and plan
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Because the integrity of the game is gone. Just because other clubs do it why should we stoop to that level? Multi-club ownership should be banned entirely.

Would you like to see us utilize the same model and plan City did by financially doping for 16 years?
 
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