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City and Financial Doping | Charged by PL with numerous FFP breaches | Hearing begins 16th September 2024
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Highly doubt anything will happen with City. With Everton the investigation happened and the sanctions were issued in a relatively short time frame. Granted there are a supposed 115 sanctions against City, but why is it taking this long for anything to be done since the initial announcement?
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The City investigation is more complex and it's inevitable City will throw everything at it if a significant punishment is handed down. By dealing with Everton first, the league sets a precedent and also tests the waters in terms of appeal.
For the first time we have notable media outlets openly talking about the very real possibility of City being relegated. And when you look at the core of UK law, precedent plays an important role.
It's almost genius tbh, a preemptive strike against City.
So why have the PL and clubs started this process if they're going to just absolve City? If they didn't plan to do something to City then they could've easily have left this alone after their UEFA acquittal via CAS.
The only answer if this 'nothing will happen' stance is true, is that the PL have decided to extort City, which is massively more unlikely than they want to deal with City.
They can do it from tier 10 if they want. 10 years without those feckers would suit me.
BT/TNT are incredibly sycophantic to English clubs in the champions league. Iirc the host told a City player "we're all proud of you" after they won a game a couple of years ago and I laughed out loud. I wouldn't expect that from MUTV.
If City do not get a significant sentence then the other clubs in the PL should do some form of collective protest as the premier league would just be confirming that it’s ok for city to cheat their way through.
What happened to Everton is the first time that I have felt like City might actually face some actual punishment. Not just because Everton are sure to take legal action of some sort if city are given a non-equivalent punishment, but also because the PL has made a rod for their own back by giving this point deduction to everton for comparatively much smaller stuff
I would settle with a 30 point deduction, 3 year ban from Europe at minimum. Doubtful that happens but City should be forced to start over if the cheating is proved. Easiest thing is relegation to the Championship.
And if they don't get punished I'm done with the Premier League. I'll just watch the Bundesliga or La Liga.
I don't think that will hurt them much. At most a write off for one season and they can continue to cheat and win the premier league for years. There need to be a minimum ban from premier league eg. 3 years. If they can survive at lower leagues for the 3 years and comply with ffp rules, then theh are welcome to the league after promotion and fight on a fair ground.
I suppose we will take the league if City get docked. This docking of points and/or more severe punishments should have been done years ago. It’s too bad they hand picked Everton to make an example of which is what they’ve done. But now that the genie is out of the bottle, I can’t see them not going after the elephant in the room and doling out a points deduction. It’s time for all the club owners and mgrs to speak up over this one if nothing get’s done.
It would be wide open but I doubt it would be that easy for Liverpool as they don't hold a lead over Arsenal at this stage. Wouldn't surprise me to see Chelsea getting stronger as the season wears on either.
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I’m sure that City won’t want their own fans worrying about relegation and what might happen…So in reaction to the Everton punishment surely they will decide to release their irrefutable evidence that proves them completely innocent
Should be relegated at least twice.
Due to the complexity of the City issues, I would be surprised if there is a conclusion this season. But I am very hopeful of a very severe punishment. Especially bearing in mind the Everton 10 points deduction was over a relatively small £20 million loss. And that Everton had been cooperating with the PL.
I think it’s super important that they have their titles stripped during the period they have cheated.
Firstly because it is just common sense - those titles were won via systematic cheating. In what sport can you be caught cheating at all and retain your titles?
Secondly, they are building their brand on their success. If you strip their titles, they can no longer advertise those successes.
Firstly because it is just common sense - those titles were won via systematic cheating. In what sport can you be caught cheating at all and retain your titles?
Secondly, they are building their brand on their success. If you strip their titles, they can no longer advertise those successes.
It’s the end of the premier league as a driving force if nothing gets done. Once the integrity is gone it’s only a matter of time till people switch off.
Only have to look in this thread people aren’t interested and fall out of love with the game quickly when they realise the sports has no legitimate competition.
Only have to look in this thread people aren’t interested and fall out of love with the game quickly when they realise the sports has no legitimate competition.
I think the Premier League actually believes the total opposite. They want the league to be seen as a place where the world’s billionaires and oil states can launder their ill-gotten gains and compete in a dick-measuring contest (as long as they get their cut, obviously). ‘Better here than the Saudi league, right?’ is how they’d justify it to themselves.
But if they crack down too hard on City’s cheating, they’ll be sending the message that the mega rich can’t simply buy success in English football, and so those potential investors will go elsewhere. And ‘elsewhere’ doesn’t just mean other football leagues.
Could the PL just take the easy way out and reverse the Everton point deduction after an appeal?
City have gotten away with it and will continue to do so.
They have too much money in the game to be given any sort of meaningful punishment.
I'd be willing to bet large sums of money on an outcome that does nothing to effect football operations. A fine of some sort that will be paid by the same cheat means.
My feeling is City will be relegated. Pep will go. The Saudis will try and hang in. They’ll be back within a few years, more careful but well organised. Unless a new government comes in that bans state parties from being club owners.
Why has this been dragging on forever but Everton get punished straight away? Surely that means city should be punished a lot worse for it taking this long…
How would that work if Everton get relegated and already spent a year in the Championship by the time City’s fate is decided?
There need to be a push to ban state from owning clubs.
2 very important reasons:
- It is extremely difficult for an individual or organisation to match up the resources of a state. It is just an unfair playing ground and you may end up having all clubs being state owned in another 10 to 20 years. Not healthy in long run
- secondly we should never let foreign politics get into the game. If they are controlling the top teams, they may have influence on it and tried to push through personal agenda. Who knows we could have a UAE or Saudi all-star team competing in EPL next time.
Relegating them could be a big punishment. I remember rangers getting knocked down to their lowest division. Should do the same here if they have any balls.
If this would have happened last season they would have been relegated. I read up this morning that Southampton, Leeds and Leicester are all trying to sue them.
City will be demoted.
Pep will leave in disgust.
Haaland and co will demand transfers as wages not paid
City get relegated to first division.
Saudis leave in disgrace.
Emptihad falls into state of ruin and decay
Receivers called in.
Pep will leave in disgust.
Haaland and co will demand transfers as wages not paid
City get relegated to first division.
Saudis leave in disgrace.
Emptihad falls into state of ruin and decay
Receivers called in.
There are plenty of questions about the fallout for city if the unimaginable actually happens and they are punished as severely as they should be.
Do they take all the hits and then continue to cheat to get themselves back to the top flight?
This notion of a player and manager exodus only happens if all the illegal payments stop. If City continue to cheat, they can pay the same players even more to be loyal to them; legacy doesn’t mean a damn thing to the majority so long as the compensation is right and I’d bet that if leveraged against 2-3 years of a career, players will stay exactly where they are. It only becomes an issue for players who can get their full wage elsewhere; someone like Haaland, for example can name his price and a select few clubs can consider the package, as mind-boggling as whatever he’s actually being paid by City is.
Don’t wish to get ahead of myself because I firmly believe nothing of significance will happen to City, but the aftermath, should it do, would be fascinating to witness.
Do they take all the hits and then continue to cheat to get themselves back to the top flight?
This notion of a player and manager exodus only happens if all the illegal payments stop. If City continue to cheat, they can pay the same players even more to be loyal to them; legacy doesn’t mean a damn thing to the majority so long as the compensation is right and I’d bet that if leveraged against 2-3 years of a career, players will stay exactly where they are. It only becomes an issue for players who can get their full wage elsewhere; someone like Haaland, for example can name his price and a select few clubs can consider the package, as mind-boggling as whatever he’s actually being paid by City is.
Don’t wish to get ahead of myself because I firmly believe nothing of significance will happen to City, but the aftermath, should it do, would be fascinating to witness.
The owners would be barred from owning a football club under the fit and proper test. It would be the end for City as it is today
Cheating circumvents that. But would they even wish to continue?
And what of all that bent money they’ve pumped into the city of Manchester? There’s a real shitstorm coming… or there would be if this wasn’t made to go away.
I believe (or hope) that the 10 point deduction to Everton is to set a president before going for the big fish. I can’t see how the PL cannot punish City and Chelsea. The punishment will be huge, relegation, titles stripped. However one crucial addition is the mandatory employment of a PL auditor.
A man can dream. Apocalyptic.You're already past that point
RE: some players staying
I think that despite being paid huge sums many players would leave, I don't think these players actually want to play in the 3rd tier of English football and it's not like Saudi Arabia where they will still be playing against a few other decent footballers.
Maybe Foden would stay and become their talisman.
All kidding aside with silly punishment scenarios but the integrity of the league really is at stake here. If City go unpunished whilst Everton get screwed over 19 million then the league will be seen as being owned by the likes of City. Again, it’s up to the media, the other owners, sponsers, politicians, and mostly supporters to make a difference here. In the States it starts by boycotting the sponsers of whoever people feel should be exposed. It does work
I reckon an important aspect to any ruling, regardless of points deductions, fines or relegations, should be to force the club to make its accounts visible to the proper authorities and meticulously scrutinize its income and expenses to make sure that it's actually operating under financial regulations rather than just taking a hit and operating as it always has to get back to the top.
Doing this may mean that any hidden or suspicious forms of income may be exposed and the club will be forced to reorganise its bookkeeping and possibly make cuts to some of its wages and staff in order to be able to properly comply with financial regulations.
Doing this may mean that any hidden or suspicious forms of income may be exposed and the club will be forced to reorganise its bookkeeping and possibly make cuts to some of its wages and staff in order to be able to properly comply with financial regulations.
City HAVE to be severely punished, otherwise it sends the message that you can cheat IF you try to hide it.
Being honest and open means you get punished.
If nothing is done, what’s to stop all other clubs making up sponsors and cooking the books?
Being honest and open means you get punished.
If nothing is done, what’s to stop all other clubs making up sponsors and cooking the books?
Let’s see how much the main media outlets peddle this now Everton have been punished? Only ever seen to hear positive things about City and how brilliant they are.
we’re always two steps ahead. go and boycott our non-existent sponsors. they’ll really miss your business.