ShinjiNinja26
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That article is simply nonsense.
Do you think they’ve got Sammy boy on a monthly retainer or did he just get one lump sum?
That article is simply nonsense.
Don't be surprised if Arse fans are celebrating outside court like they've actually won the leagueThey're too big now for anything to happen to them.
We will hear about it once every couple of months whenever there's some sort of procedure in the courtroom.
Then they'll appeal. then things go quiet again for some time....
And then, even if some years pass and they get stripped of their past achievements (seems unlikely to me and to many other posters by the looks of it)-
Do we fans of competing teams get some sense of relief?
Did Inter fans feel as if they won that league title that was given to them after Juve got done, back in the day?
It probably feels like nobody won the title in the years when a cheating team did so.
I'm not sure there's anything that can help with the present feeling of knowing that the strongest side in your competition almost certainly doesn't play by the same rules as everyone else.
Sounds like a good deal for City, wonder how they managed that...
Yeah very good point. It's like subliminal messaging, I'm sure the authors aren't even aware that they're doing it.On another note, that article is why sports washing is very effective.
No mention City are an oil state funded club.
Yeah very good point. It's like subliminal messaging, I'm sure the authors aren't even aware that they're doing it.
On the charges front, I can't see how a settlement is a likely outcome. I can't see the PL going as far as they have just for a settlement.
This guy was leader of the council at the time, so maybe...Sounds like a good deal for City, wonder how they managed that...
4m a year, that is a fecking disgrace.Apart from the approx £4million per year the City Council gets in rent.
It is unbelievable . Its like corruption in 3rd world country.This guy was leader of the council at the time, so maybe...
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...all-news/man-city-news-richard-leese-26867420
You would think all the English clubs would be pushing more for an outcome on these 115 breaches. Even more so now that City have basically monopolised every competition they play in England.
But the noise around it is just so small.
4m a year, that is a fecking disgrace.
It's an absolute joke and robbery of the locals. The fact it was pushed through by a city fan and now honorary president tells you all you need to know. Pure corruption.4m a year, that is a fecking disgrace.
You would think all the English clubs would be pushing more for an outcome on these 115 breaches. Even more so now that City have basically monopolised every competition they play in England.
But the noise around it is just so small.
They're too big now for anything to happen to them.
We will hear about it once every couple of months whenever there's some sort of procedure in the courtroom.
Then they'll appeal. then things go quiet again for some time....
And then, even if some years pass and they get stripped of their past achievements (seems unlikely to me and to many other posters by the looks of it)-
Do we fans of competing teams get some sense of relief?
Did Inter fans feel as if they won that league title that was given to them after Juve got done, back in the day?
It probably feels like nobody won the title in the years when a cheating team did so.
I'm not sure there's anything that can help with the present feeling of knowing that the strongest side in your competition almost certainly doesn't play by the same rules as everyone else.
City strolled in, cheated to their heart’s content (until they got what they wanted), and casually inserted themselves into the very top of the food chain with literally no comeuppance. They’ve made an absolute mockery of club football and the next step is to wash their history.
You’d like to say it’s unbelievable, but it was all a given, as documented in this very thread and others.
Especially the guy who signed it off.Obtained naming rights to the stadium from the council. Good for City.
All operating, maintenance & future capital costs are borne by the club. Good for the Council.
Good deal all round really
Pretty much. It's why I always wanted them to win ahead of Liverpool. Its like losing to Lance Armstrong.
This reasoning is something we tell ourselves to feel less dirty about being the biggest City fans in the last decade. If it was Liverpool whom they bought then you'd be hoping for Liverpool to win over City?
It's an absolute joke and robbery of the locals. The fact it was pushed through by a city fan and now honorary president tells you all you need to know. Pure corruption.
Don't be surprised if Arse fans are celebrating outside court like they've actually won the league
They're easily bought. I remember listening to some podcast with football journalists and they were all fawning over how well they're looked after by City hospitality and how the food was amazing.It feels to me that even though city have the hacks in their pocket, nobody outside of their fanbase really seems to care when they win things.
They won the treble, and it seemed like it was a news story for about two days and then forgotten. It's like everyone just shrugs.
It feels to me that even though city have the hacks in their pocket, nobody outside of their fanbase really seems to care when they win things.
They won the treble, and it seemed like it was a news story for about two days and then forgotten. It's like everyone just shrugs.
Been abroad a lot the past two months and the proliferation of City shirts has been alarming. Haaland, De Bruyne or Grealish adorned on every shirt. That and Messi’s pink kit is about the only thing I’ve seen outside of Bayern shirts. Not a single United one across 3 continents.Unfortunately this won't be the case forever. My 7 year old nephew grew up in a Chelsea household, I got my 5 year old godson into United early on. Both have now switched to City because they win everything. Most of my friends' kids around the Manchester area all support City. The kids all love Grealish.
Just like Chelsea when all those kids grow up the hows and whys will all be forgotten. It's why its so important that it goes on record that they cheated.
When cities bid for Olympics or Commonwealth Games, a big part of the process is demonstrating the post-games legacy with particular focus on the main stadium
The most common end results are either White Elephants that stand unused or broken promises (e.g. West Ham stadium)
Manchester bid several times for the Olympics and Commonwealth games in the decade or so prior to winning the Commonwealth games, with no success. Those proposals typically included an 80k ish capacity stadium
Whatever you think of Manchester City, the eventual solution for the Commonwealth games was brilliant for the city of Manchester, who would not have won their bid to host the games without this solution. The club paid half the by today's standards, relatively modest costs to convert from athletics to football. Nobody can say with a straight face there hasn't been a hugely successful re-development and enhancement of the entire area surrounding the stadium. The old Maine Road was given to the council and the site was used to create a lot of housing. The council get a significant annual income which would never have happened if they had not done the deal with city. Other (minority) sports have fabulous infrastructure for their respective homes in the new campus. Manchester as a city has benefited from the extra publicity of now having two top football clubs on the international stage instead of one.
The idea the city, or the council, have been shafted by city, looks insane.
It was also a good deal for the club, but there can be times when deals are a winner for all concerned. I'd love to see you say with a straight face exactly who has been shafted and how, by this 'pure corruption' !
You would think all the English clubs would be pushing more for an outcome on these 115 breaches. Even more so now that City have basically monopolised every competition they play in England.
But the noise around it is just so small.
As usual, for a City fan, you missed the point that they did all this by cheating. This is the description of sports washing.
Been abroad a lot the past two months and the proliferation of City shirts has been alarming. Haaland, De Bruyne or Grealish adorned on every shirt. That and Messi’s pink kit is about the only thing I’ve seen outside of Bayern shirts. Not a single United one across 3 continents.
In an age where teams are having to fork out billions for new stadiums and re-developments your club is benefitting from a extremely beneficial deal. 4m per year/333k per month/83k per week for an entire stadium is pittance. The deal should have been with caveats (incremental increase in rent) so that the locals can benefit from your investment since you're heavily benefitting from having a stadium handed to you.Sports washing by who ?!? Me ? My fellow owners ? We were a PLC traded on the UK Stockmarket. In fact like many fans, I owned a handful of shares (worth a nominal sum).
The stadium deal was announce in 2000. The stadium was built for the Commonwealth Games were in 2002. We (City) moved in one year later.
It was not until c 2006 we were bought by Thaksin shinawatra and by the Sheikh in 2008
That article is simply nonsense.
In an age where teams are having to fork out billions for new stadiums and re-developments your club is benefitting from a extremely beneficial deal. 4m per year/333k per month/83k per week for an entire stadium is pittance. The deal should have been with caveats (incremental increase in rent) so that the locals can benefit from your investment since you're heavily benefitting from having a stadium handed to you.
The amount of Haaland shirts I see at the children's playground is disgusting. This is why I don't feel bad that we are the destroying the planet for these little s****. Have fun renting all your life.Yeah I live in Italy at the moment and a few of the guys i play football with turn up in City shirts. I wonder when the big clubs will start to notice the dent in revenue as they lose fans.
Have you even red your own previous post, or do multiple people have access to your account ?
You alleged sportswashing. I pointed out it was pre Abu Dhabi and for that matter, pre Thaksin. You should have backed down gracefully rather than continue to make an idiot of yourself. Sportswashing is a perfectly reasonable topic, but not in relation to the periods the club was a PLC
But if you want to separately talk about the commerciality of the deal, great. There was a deal to pay the council a percentage of revenue to start with, but it was renegotiated, with the council receiving more money than they used to, as part of the investment by the club owners into the stadium expansion. The club are paying to invest on a site they don't own. You want locals to benefit - well every past and future building contract in connection with the stadium has a requirement (at the behest of our owners), to employ primarily local contractors. From Ancoats to the stadium, a route I walk regularly to games, the area has been transformed with huge investment. And by the stadium ,we have the new concert venue and hotel being built.
Of course if facts don't actually matter, sure, sportswashing, cheating, blah blah blah.
The amount of Haaland shirts I see at the children's playground is disgusting. This is why I don't feel bad that we are the destroying the planet for these little s****. Have fun renting all your life.
If this is the case you'd expect a club like Utd to be ahead of the game on this, however I've seen the standard of food the press receive at OT and it's pretty poor, always looks like it's been forgotten about and quickly thrown together.They're easily bought. I remember listening to some podcast with football journalists and they were all fawning over how well they're looked after by City hospitality and how the food was amazing.
Fat cnuts.
City are pretty unique in this case, their community investment is simply a continuation of the reasoning to build a stadium in that location in the first place. Lots of people spoke of investment in the Old Trafford area when supporting the Sheikh Jassim bid, I'd be wary of this, the gentrification and foreign investment that's gripped the city centre is already on the doorstep of Old Trafford which is home to a long standing community and with the exception of a few side streets around the stadium is in good shape.It's not, stick a load of restaurants, arenas, hotels and entertainment complexes around your stadium, and profit from all the revenue that comes in outside matchday and stick it towards your FFP budget. The cost of development and building doesnt count towards FFP but the revenues/profits gained from it does.
Feck them.If this is the case you'd expect a club like Utd to be ahead of the game on this, however I've seen the standard of food the press receive at OT and it's pretty poor, always looks like it's been forgotten about and quickly thrown together.
city are a sportswashing project for the UAE, yes. United will be one for Qatar soon enough, but that does not excuse what city now are, Jon: a sportswashing entity for an autocracy.