Guess you are his psychologist and a fortune-teller to boot.
No other club should have finished above them in that time I am guessing because of the money they have spent?
City and Financial Doping | Charged by PL with numerous FFP breaches | Hearing begins 16th September 2024
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No other club should have finished above them in that time I am guessing because of the money they have spent?
Some GK prospect by the name of James Trafford is going to Burnley for 19 million pounds, and who manages Burnley again? 
Almost as good as Barcelona coming under with 50 million for Ferran Torres just one transfer window after they were in financial crisis. No shame whatsoever
Almost as good as Barcelona coming under with 50 million for Ferran Torres just one transfer window after they were in financial crisis. No shame whatsoever
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Selling some GK prospect by the name of James Trafford is going to Burnley for 19 million pounds, and who manages Burnley again?
That's insane.
Burnley managed by a City legend breaks their transfer record transfer fee on a 21 year old keeper with zero PL appearances. Nothing to see here.
When you consider they sold a highly rated Nick Pope for £10million a year ago as well it looks even worse.
If near £20million is the a realistic price for an unproven player whos highest level is League One, then things are worse than we thought. You have proven, multiple title winning, highest levels of the game keepers and outfield players going for double or even less than double what this lad is going for.
Meanwhile we get 500k for Laird
True market rate Vs artificially inflated rate.
Let's be honest, who would be surprised if it one day came out that there was some distant link between City's owners and those at Burnley?
The same Burnley who co-signed the Arsenal letter to have City booted out of Europe?
Exactly, anyone think we could get 19m for title winner Kovar?
I'd never even heard of Trafford before, I know they sold that Irish keeper last year to Southampton for a similarly stupid amount.
Makes you wonder...
I have a theory that City have essentially agreed a plea bargain with the Premier League to accept a transfer ban which is why they’re going to load up this window to mitigate any damage in the next season when the ban comes into effect.
Don't Burnley now have different owners? This happened in 2020 and the takeover happened in 2021 didn't it?
He's obviously got potential. Currently playing for the England U21 and not conceded a goal in the tournament but his highest level of club football was League One for Bolton. I can't find any evidence he's even been included in a City match day squad and they tend to throw a few youngsters in for early League Cup games and late season League games. Though that may be due to being out on loan multiple times.
It's hard to use a handful of England U21 games and a season in League One as justification for a near £20million move though. Apparently there's also a 20% sell on cause and a buy back option.
Record signing as well for Burnley. Meanwhile, we will probably try selling proven Premier League players and full internationals who are still fairly you g themselves for not much more.
Makes me wonder if they’re funding these transfers on the back end to but still reporting the profits to FFP
Could be, but didn't some NFL player only buy a minority stake or something. But I could be wrong.
Edit. Actually you're correct they were indeed fully bought out after that.
I'm don't think Trafford is a $20m player at all, he's had one very good season on loan at Bolton in league 1, but I believe he's 1st choice for England u21 and know he was highly rated at City.
Bolton are crazy stumping up that money, it's double what Bazunu, a similar rated keeper left City for.
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Selling some GK prospect by the name of James Trafford is going to Burnley for 19 million pounds, and who manages Burnley again?
Burnley owner or someone related will have business ventures in middle East now, now convenient.
So not a peep about this still. Its funny though, they're charged and continue their way as if a bank robber is charged and continues to rob banks while waiting for the outcome.
How these overpriced sales are not investigated I will never know.
So blatantly obvious what’s going on here.
So blatantly obvious what’s going on here.
Not just money, but the stockpiled quality they acquired - top players who were happy to sit on City’s bench rather than be key players for title rivals skewed the competition.
Look who finished second to them over the past 6 years - Mourinho’s United with geriatric Young and Valencia as converted fullbacks, then Solskjaer’s McFred midfield, Liverpool pushed them to within a point twice with a squad acquired for a fraction of the price and catalystic fullbacks who cost a combined £8m. Nobody should have got anywhere near them on paper - if you can’t get your head around that reality then there’s not much to say to you.
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I’d actually argue that Trafford is going to be the best English goalkeeper of the past 20 years, so I can see the logic. He’s both compatible with Burnley’s style of play, and will likely be worth £40m next summer if he breaks into the senior England team/generally impresses in the PL.
Where's the white text?
The biggest travesty here is that there’s a promising young keeper named Trafford and he’s not our player
I‘m inclined to think this guy may be worth the 15 million.
I‘m more suspicious of the low transfer fee for Kovacic. I bet they are paying way more but keeping it off the books somehow.
I‘m more suspicious of the low transfer fee for Kovacic. I bet they are paying way more but keeping it off the books somehow.
It will probably happen. ALK Capital eventually invests in something in Abu Dhabi.
Strip them of their title, it is the only reasonable thing to do.
Don't remember their title rivals trying to sign, Akanji, Ake, Philips, Ortega, Gomez. The times they have gone head to head with other top clubs they usually don't get the player. Sanchez. Maguire, VVD, Fred, Rice,
Yea same way he converted Delph and Zinny to win the league. Converted a RB in Cancelo to a LB to win the league (maybe I am wrong but can't remember him playing there before City). Some claim he won the season before last without a striker (he had Jesus and chose to play him on the wings). Pep must be crazy to choose to do all these conversions than play the world class bench players.
Madrid's galactico didn't win much, expensively assembled squads doesn't guarantee anything.
On paper in their pomp I would argue Pool had a better first team than City. City had a better mid and bench. Pool had a better defence/goalie and attack and were 2 games from winning it all.
Pep has failed in Europe due to some of his tactics around games. Domestically I think he has done very well and don't except this level of domestic dominance to continue after he is gone.
Hes Young Trafford so no interest from us!
Which one?
This is absolutely mind boggling.
And why for goodness sakes would Chelsea agree to underreporting revenue, given their desperate efforts to climb out of the FFP cliff?
I didn't know City had effectively appointed 2 of the 3 CAS members who presided over the appeal. One of the sports lawyers in the video it wasn't against the rules but it kinda sounds like it should be, no?
Just the most recent of course.
I have no idea: don‘t you think Kovacic was worth more? I do.
We paid not much more than that for him 5 years ago to be fair.
Considering that the leaks say they have a huge network of feeder club with talents where agents get paid on the side, it’s notan unfeasible thought. Not sure how it works exactly but 19m for a youth player can make you spend 100m in the new rules I think?
With all City’s youth players where many have big potential, it’s quite clear they will have an easy time under the new rules. Also just by having spend much on academy without that being cheating. But of course the system benefits the mega-rich who can pull such setups.
Might not even be limited to feeder clubs tbh. They have strong ties with Barca who happen to have 50 million to drop on Ferran Torres when they were supposedly in financial crisis. City paid 20 million for him, he was ok at best for them and then they sold him at a profit to a club that was supposed to be broke.
Every time this is bumped I'm hoping these cheating cnuts have been sanctioned. Still not happened.
It's incredible
I imagine City make sure they get their transfer fees in one go, i.e. a one time payment, whereas they amortize their outlays, meaning they can stay under FFP?