Yes a summer and winter transfer ban, with the summer ban being ‘postponed’ whilst appeals go on. After which it will end up being a winter ban only when no one does business anyway.
City and Financial Doping | Charged by PL with 130 FFP breaches | Hearing begins 16th Sep 2024 | Concluded 9th Dec 2024 - Awaiting outcome
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Shearer's after a bit of that Saudi scratch. He's not going to say anything to upset them.
He's certainly already on their payroll.
Probably first in the queue with his hand out.
Saw that, I think Shearer just said something along the lines of - it's not the players though is it. Lineker agreed, and they moved on.
Ulterior motive, or of their depth talking about it, there is no appetite amongst most of the TV fluff media to say anything it seems.
They bank on the EPL and to have the most dominant team in the league being corrupt makes the league look shite. That doesn't fit the narrative they want which is all is rosy in the EPL.
Coming at this from the perspective of someone who is more a general fan of English football than of any one particular team, this thread is actually extraordinarily pathetic.
Manchester City have put together an incredible squad at a lower cost in transfer fees than Chelsea's and on a lower overall wage bill than both Manchester United and Chelsea (and no, Manchester City's transfer fees/wages for this season are not part of the charges brought against them by the Premier League).
In any case, those FFP rules that Manchester City are accused of breaking are despicable in their nature. I will never understand why it should be fair that teams like Manchester United and Real Madrid be legally protected to continuously outspend all their rivals simply through having created more revenue historically, leading to a perpetual cycle of anti-competitive protectionism where the fresh investment required for new competition is throttled.
I also notice a distinct lack of appreciation for what Manchester City have given to English football. Since 2009, Manchester City have brought a large volume of star players to the Premier League, contributed some of the league's most defining moments, contributed to England's coefficient in Europe and ultimately been a major reason behind the dramatic increase in television revenues which have benefitted the entire league and wider football pyramid.
I understand that there is also this "sportswashing" angle, but as with the above aspects, I also do not understand it at all - what exactly is the practical point that those who use this argument are trying to make?
Everybody cares about human rights abuses across the world and specifically in this instance, the related issues in the Middle East.
However, if Abu Dhabi hadn't purchased Manchester City, would all the political prisoners being held in the UAE now be free? If England had given the UAE and other Middle Eastern countries the cold shoulder in the past, would their subsequent pivot towards China and Russia have improved the human rights situations there?
Simply holding the position that you don't want such states to be involved in English football, with zero additional thought given to the wider context within which this viewpoint sits, is a completely closed-minded and morally indefensible position to hold. The way these situations improve is through dialogue and communication, through giving Qatar the World Cup then using this to push through the abolition of the kafala system.
It does not improve with stonewalling through the adoption of an us vs them attitude.
Manchester City have put together an incredible squad at a lower cost in transfer fees than Chelsea's and on a lower overall wage bill than both Manchester United and Chelsea (and no, Manchester City's transfer fees/wages for this season are not part of the charges brought against them by the Premier League).
In any case, those FFP rules that Manchester City are accused of breaking are despicable in their nature. I will never understand why it should be fair that teams like Manchester United and Real Madrid be legally protected to continuously outspend all their rivals simply through having created more revenue historically, leading to a perpetual cycle of anti-competitive protectionism where the fresh investment required for new competition is throttled.
I also notice a distinct lack of appreciation for what Manchester City have given to English football. Since 2009, Manchester City have brought a large volume of star players to the Premier League, contributed some of the league's most defining moments, contributed to England's coefficient in Europe and ultimately been a major reason behind the dramatic increase in television revenues which have benefitted the entire league and wider football pyramid.
I understand that there is also this "sportswashing" angle, but as with the above aspects, I also do not understand it at all - what exactly is the practical point that those who use this argument are trying to make?
Everybody cares about human rights abuses across the world and specifically in this instance, the related issues in the Middle East.
However, if Abu Dhabi hadn't purchased Manchester City, would all the political prisoners being held in the UAE now be free? If England had given the UAE and other Middle Eastern countries the cold shoulder in the past, would their subsequent pivot towards China and Russia have improved the human rights situations there?
Simply holding the position that you don't want such states to be involved in English football, with zero additional thought given to the wider context within which this viewpoint sits, is a completely closed-minded and morally indefensible position to hold. The way these situations improve is through dialogue and communication, through giving Qatar the World Cup then using this to push through the abolition of the kafala system.
It does not improve with stonewalling through the adoption of an us vs them attitude.
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As football is now a free for all you can understand why United fans have come to terms with swapping a bunch of leeches for a nation state.
The only way to combat it is to drop out of all FIFA/FA/UEFA competition and start a new one off.
1/10
Must try harder.
Best thing he’s said in years.
To be fair the people we really need to hear from regarding cheating allegations are definitely Barca fans.
Just showed their bus driving through and there’s more in my house than standing there. They had police watching the road and everything
Yeah but that ring road traffic, etc.
The players wouldn't be, wouldn't have even considered City as an option, if they hadn't cheated their way there.
Pep hadn't even heard of City 10 years ago.
'hope no one gets hurt'
It's a sunny Saturday afternoon, most of their support is local, and they can't muster more than 100 or so fans to celebrate outside the ground.
Can you imagine how many Barcelona, or Bayern, fans, who are used to winning regularly, would be celebrating outside the ground when they win the league?
The richest club in the World.
There's only one thing pathetic about your post mate
So pathetic, general fan rather than particular team and then calls ManUtd as "ourselves" when talking about wages.
Only thing more pathetic is, how ashamed you are to admit that you are City fan. Pretend as ManUtd fan to praise City
Are you one of those guys who puts nail polish on one hand and take a pic pretending that you are with a girl?
Oof. Serious burns
"Best bench the Prem' has ever seen."
Well no shit. And how did that come about?
Sky have no shame.
Well no shit. And how did that come about?
Sky have no shame.
They will never get relegated. The PL don't have the balls to kick them out.
The salary cap just wouldn't work when we know City have been paying its employees two salaries. Nothing to stop Newcastle or others doing the same.
I was just about to post the bein sports pundits talking about it.
No one knows and that's not what they're being accused of. Just of inflating revenue.
Of course it can work. More so if you sanction (ban) players, managers as well as the club for rule breaks.
Nothing to see here.. on it goes
Ourselves?
Why is it taking so long for any action or conclusion?
Took the EPL 4 years to gather evidence, then announce 115 charges, then nothing?!
I’ve seen stories saying it could be 2027 before anything is done.
I can only imagine that City have had their lawyers shut it all down as best they can and that’s why it’s all gone quiet.
Speculation and hearsay is going to circle until this is resolved.
Surely it’s in everyone’s best interest to have this resolved quickly? Otherwise it is going to hang over the EPL like a big question mark for god knows how long.
Took the EPL 4 years to gather evidence, then announce 115 charges, then nothing?!
I’ve seen stories saying it could be 2027 before anything is done.
I can only imagine that City have had their lawyers shut it all down as best they can and that’s why it’s all gone quiet.
Speculation and hearsay is going to circle until this is resolved.
Surely it’s in everyone’s best interest to have this resolved quickly? Otherwise it is going to hang over the EPL like a big question mark for god knows how long.
You say you don't have an interest in any particular team, yet you're clearly a City fan. But I'll let you off because, judging by years of empty seats during games and empty streets during trophy celebrating bus runs, City fans in general don't have much interest in a particular team either.
The bit where Gray says that City been accused of cheating shouldn't detract from the players on the pitch, is basically what Shearer said on MOTD last night, but rather than been challenged on it like Keys did, Lineker just shrugged his shoulders and agreed.
It would have been pre planned Lineker mentioning it, so no idea why they bothered bringing it up if they were literally going to gloss over it the way they did.
Don't be surprised if Bein becomes a United mouthpiece if Jassim takes over.You know it’s a sad state of affairs when Richard fecking Keys is speaking sense.
Always knew Keys was a misunderstood and honorable man.
Keys might finally start acting as a Utd fan if that’s the case.
Can't wait until he starts talking about inhalers
Lineker is a Pep/City fanboy.
He is a Coventry fan