City and Financial Doping | Charged by PL with 130 FFP breaches | Hearing begins 16th Sep 2024 | Concluded 9th Dec 2024 - Awaiting outcome

SER19 said:
havent you heard? theyre a massively profitable machine now, turning over more money than any club in the world apart from Real Madrid, with record numbers year on year. Just dont ask any questions about how they got here, what's important is that they are now a fantastic, clean, well oiled machine and if you want to know anything more you're probably just a bitter fan or part of the cartel. They're great, and a credit to all the little clubs who wanted to get to the top
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This is all well and true but here are the numbers that really matter over the 3-year PSR cycle just gone:

United profit from player sales - £80m
City profit from player sales - £328m

City net interest payments - £15m
United net interest payments - £145m

I don't doubt they have included commercial sponsorships but the reality is you could knock a couple hundred million off their revenue over that period and they'd still be in a much better position PSR wise than United.
 
I dont really believe any of those City numbers. There is always something cooked up or engineered at the back end to make up those numbers.

Is thing over yet soon? This has to be the biggest joke in football. We are not talking about it much because they are a bit average at the moment. It almost makes me think this poor season is to take the spotlight off of them....good thing I am not much into conspiracies! Pep is too competitive to pull that stuff.
 
I think the outcome of this case will be a real watershed moment. Either an appropriate punishment is delivered and City face some sort of relegation/expulsion or we get a ridiculous "financial penalty" that will in effect be a financial takeover of the game by City's backers.

The game faces a stark choice between being a genuine competitive league competition or we get a stealth superleague where a middle-eastern potentate decides who wins the league each year. If you think I'm being dramatic just look at what happens in the Saudi league where a central "controller" decides which players a club can buy.

Also just look at the fiasco that Formula 1 became once it was the plaything of princes, rather than a genuine sport. It starts with influencing decisions in critical moments and ends with corrupt fixing of titles and is the antithesis of true sport.

I know some people like Wrestling...and that's fine but I prefer real sport and I hope the outcome of the case is a victory for sport rather than a victory for entertainment.
 
DannyCAFC said:
This is all well and true but here are the numbers that really matter over the 3-year PSR cycle just gone:

United profit from player sales - £80m
City profit from player sales - £328m

City net interest payments - £15m
United net interest payments - £145m

I don't doubt they have included commercial sponsorships but the reality is you could knock a couple hundred million off their revenue over that period and they'd still be in a much better position PSR wise than United.
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Profit from players bought while breaking financial rules.

But that's all in the past so they can benefit now?
 
buchansleftleg said:
I think the outcome of this case will be a real watershed moment. Either an appropriate punishment is delivered and City face some sort of relegation/expulsion or we get a ridiculous "financial penalty" that will in effect be a financial takeover of the game by City's backers.

The game faces a stark choice between being a genuine competitive league competition or we get a stealth superleague where a middle-eastern potentate decides who wins the league each year. If you think I'm being dramatic just look at what happens in the Saudi league where a central "controller" decides which players a club can buy.

Also just look at the fiasco that Formula 1 became once it was the plaything of princes, rather than a genuine sport. It starts with influencing decisions in critical moments and ends with corrupt fixing of titles and is the antithesis of true sport.

I know some people like Wrestling...and that's fine but I prefer real sport and I hope the outcome of the case is a victory for sport rather than a victory for entertainment.
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Absolutely.

If City aren't servery punished then it's the end for any teams that want to try and run sensibly and sustainably.

Look at what's happened to the French league since PSG got taken over by Qatar.
 
“we were just about to send you the missing documents for where we found the money to buy those players, but you’ll never believe what happened to them.”
 
MaMa given red said:
Absolutely.

If City aren't servery punished then it's the end for any teams that want to try and run sensibly and sustainably.

Look at what's happened to the French league since PSG got taken over by Qatar.
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If they aren't severely punished we should go and buy absolutely anybody we want
 
DannyCAFC said:
This is all well and true but here are the numbers that really matter over the 3-year PSR cycle just gone:

United profit from player sales - £80m
City profit from player sales - £328m

City net interest payments - £15m
United net interest payments - £145m

I don't doubt they have included commercial sponsorships but the reality is you could knock a couple hundred million off their revenue over that period and they'd still be in a much better position PSR wise than United.
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City are a team that claim to have the second biggest income in world football.

Meanwhile, they can't fill their own stadium even when they give tickets away to local schools.

Every aspect of their financial 'strength' is a lie.
 
T_Model101 said:
City have history with this too
I think I remember reading that they made an official complaint to Sky a few years ago regarding the comments of Keane/Souness which left Sky sweating
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They had Jamie O Hara spouting crap just for good measure on Sunday.

According him United might as well not bother building their 100 k stadium because they won't fill it as all the new young fans coming through will be City supporters in future.

They are that pathetic it wouldn't surprise me if it was staged to counter the Sherwood comments.

The press as whole are utterly shameless with their coverage of City.
 
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