City and Financial Doping | Charged by PL with 130 FFP breaches | Hearing begins 16th Sep 2024 | Concluded 9th Dec 2024 - Awaiting outcome
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It's just impossible that City will escape all charges - if we were talking 4-5 charges sure, but 115 ? Surely the lawyers of the P.L can't be that incompetent
City doing a fair bit of business in Jan for a team about to have the arse ripped out of them.
Any competent agent will have clauses inserted depending on the outcome of the charges you'd imagine.
Buying young players that won't mind spending a season or two in the championship
I honestly do see much more than a slap on the wrist coming up for them.
Marmoush is 25 and will cost €80m.
If they get relegated (they won’t), they’ll just farm them out to one of their other clubs, wont they?
Then they’ll return for the start of the 2026/27 season?
Then they’ll return for the start of the 2026/27 season?
City doing City, nothing to see here.
As good as Marmoush has been this season, i dont think he is suitable for City football at all.
He really needs space to shine and isnt really good against low blocks.
Add to that that it is his first really good season (well, half of a season so far) at the age of 25 and a price tag of 80 millions i'd say the flop potential would be pretty big.
He really needs space to shine and isnt really good against low blocks.
Add to that that it is his first really good season (well, half of a season so far) at the age of 25 and a price tag of 80 millions i'd say the flop potential would be pretty big.
They won't be relegated, because they can't just be relegated. They can really only be given a points deduction or expelled from the league.
The only way they can be relegated to the Championship is if they get a points deduction that guarantees relegation.
So they can be relegated??
I think the FA will bottle it and the rest of us will look like mugs for towing the line.
The FA aren’t involved in the process at all
Premier League then. The fact City will fight it makes it a lot different to going after Everton. They'll probably get a similar punishment despite far more/greater offences.
The decision will be made by an independent panel.
Yeah but only if they get relegated.
Can imagine a point ban that makes them lose last years title.
Can imagine a point deduction this year that puts them out of europe.
Can imagine starting with -10 next year.
18 month for their rebuild. Lose a title to save face. No more than that.
Can imagine a point deduction this year that puts them out of europe.
Can imagine starting with -10 next year.
18 month for their rebuild. Lose a title to save face. No more than that.
Probably any points deduction greater than 45 points will relegate them this season. I think the max they can get now is 88 and that’s if they win every single game left.
They will spend a bit of money, but they haven’t been linked to anyone that I’m too worried about.
They will spend a bit of money, but they haven’t been linked to anyone that I’m too worried about.
Slightly missing the point. Only one way they can be relegated and that is a points deduction. People still post about relegation and I see guys talking about relegation on the TV. They should have more sense.
The punishment handed down can only really be points deductions, fines, stripped of titles & expulsion from the PL. If expelled from the PL, they apply to football league, who have no obligation to accept them as members and can also decide what level of the pyramid they start at if they do accept them.
Even if they get a points deduction and are assured of relegation that way, can the football league still reject them as members? Why would 23 other championship teams trying to make it to the PL want to compete against a bunch of cheats?
Not sure I am missing the point but, yeah.
Not sure why people think City are going to be punished. From all the noises I been hearing, reports and what is happening, it seems quite clear that they know they will be fine.
Them signing 2 players in January should tell you all, spending 100m in Jan when the hearing is in April, shows City know they are cleared and can continue with business as usual.
Them signing 2 players in January should tell you all, spending 100m in Jan when the hearing is in April, shows City know they are cleared and can continue with business as usual.
Relegation would imply it's separate to the outcome of the league and could be in addition to the 3 other teams relegated due to points finish. Also, that they could be relegated to a chosen league, which is not the case.
A points deduction that results in relegation would follow the existing rules and outcome of the league, with City being one of the 3 teams relegated to the Championship due to points accrued over the season.
It's a subtle distinction but an important one.
A points deduction that results in relegation would follow the existing rules and outcome of the league, with City being one of the 3 teams relegated to the Championship due to points accrued over the season.
It's a subtle distinction but an important one.
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I expect they'll get a 100+ points deduction and go down bottom. Probably they already know that's likely.
They'll be back up after a season like Juve back in the day. Medium abd long term won't hurt them much at all.
They'll be back up after a season like Juve back in the day. Medium abd long term won't hurt them much at all.
Are you reading this, Pannick? This is where you start to earn your gruel
Yep, the PL can't actually relegate City because the PL and Championship are 2 different organisations. This would mean the football league accepting Man City, they could chose not to.
However; points deduction leading to relegation is the only real way of relegating City.
If they weren't going to get any sort of punishment, the case would have been dismissed in less than 12 weeks, so clearly some of the evidence against them held up.
It will also send a signal to other clubs that you may as well just ignore PSR and deal with the consequences later. It's worth spending hundreds of millions on players if the worse case scenario is that you get a points deduction that will only derail you for a season or two.
Fine, I will correct myself. They will get a monetary punishment just like UEFA and get away with it.
They will probably pay a 20m fine or something and case closed.
No chance, luckily.
The precedent has already been set with Everton and Forest being deducted points though. I don't see how the Premier League can't deduct them points now.
There is one difference you are ignoring... neither of those clubs have the influence of a country / state, or have any political influence.
It's all been setup nicely this season.
They're nowhere near the title, dock a few points that will make no material difference to show how seriously we all take this, a nice fine to line the PL's pockets, then next season start afresh like it never happened.
They're nowhere near the title, dock a few points that will make no material difference to show how seriously we all take this, a nice fine to line the PL's pockets, then next season start afresh like it never happened.
I fear you'll be right
Whatever punishment needs to include stripping past honours or further points deductions going forward. They can’t just start again next season like nothing happened. It’s like telling a team of bank robbers that once their 12 month prison sentence is over they still get to keep the money they nicked. It isn’t much of a deterrent.
Here’s a left field suggestion (that would never happen) in case their penalty is not enough.
After City gets relegated and go up again, every Premier League club plain out refuse to play them.
If it’s then 3-0 on paper for City, who cares if they’re officially crowned champions. Would save every club 2 matches a season too in a tight schedule and all city players would want away. They’d hand off their business in a few years time then.
Never happening but one can only dream.
After City gets relegated and go up again, every Premier League club plain out refuse to play them.
If it’s then 3-0 on paper for City, who cares if they’re officially crowned champions. Would save every club 2 matches a season too in a tight schedule and all city players would want away. They’d hand off their business in a few years time then.
Never happening but one can only dream.
If you got all 19 clubs to agree to that, then you’re above the 14/20 majority needed for them to just be denied entry anyway. I doubt it would even get as far as drawing the fixtures up.
I’m repeating myself here, but it’ll be an unprecedented points reduction of, say, 50 points, and a enormous fine.
The fine won’t go against PSR and City will disagree but accept “just to put an end to it”.
The powers that be can pat themselves on the back and say “look, we punished them harder than has ever been seen before” while also not rock the boat too much.
The fine won’t go against PSR and City will disagree but accept “just to put an end to it”.
The powers that be can pat themselves on the back and say “look, we punished them harder than has ever been seen before” while also not rock the boat too much.