Christian Pulisic

I wonder if Murtough's famous data analysts/miracle makers are in reality grave diggers
 
Yeah its a very balkan name, his grandad was Croatian.

I bet the original pronunciation of his name was pulisiCH
Affirmative.

His grandfather is from an island of Olib.

He refused to play for Croatia. Doesnt matter, we have better.
 
His end product is shite. An improvement on Elanga, granted, but is this where we’re at?
Yes. Definitely. We are in fact lucky that Pulisic would consider us…we are not only shite but we tend to ruin careers.

it’s turning our noses up at quality hard working professionals that has us in this mess. He is by all accounts a top pro that gets on with things…no sulking.

get him in…better than all our frontline and no less productive than Sancho.

ETH has done more with less talented players than Pulisic…but Pulisic has the right attitude…and that’s key at this point.
 
:lol:

He's their rashford with worse numbers.

He plays out of position and rarely gets consistent football for them. He constantly looks pretty threatening when I see him, even though his end product isn’t ideal.

Rashford looks crap and his stats are crap, and he’s had far more chances than he’s deserved over the last year.
 
Pulisic has been kind of lost under Tuchel as he is much more effective playing as a wide forward in a front 3, either wing in 4-2-3-1 or as a supporting striker with a proper number 9. Tuchel likes to play his two supporting forwards much more narrow and he prefers players that are a little more AMs than Wingers in those positions. Just not a good fit for Pulisic. Think he needs a move and can do a good job if used in the right way. As a Spurs fan, actually hope it is not United.

This. Spot on.
 
You can't loan more than one player from same team.

I thought it was that you can loan two players from another PL club and only two in total as a whole but they’re not allowed to play against their parent club ?
 
What has Rashford proved? A few months of good counter attacking football under Ole?

If so, Pulisic had that good run of form with Chelsea as well so you can't say he has never done it in the premier league. He was a good player for Dortmund as well as the U.S national team. Not to mention Pulisic has 70 or so appearances for Chelsea. Rashford has 250 for Man United. I'm willing to give one player more time.
Rashford has been much better for United than Pulisic has for Chelsea. Rashford has got 93 in 303 games, including loads of important goals. Pulisic has for 25 in 117. Fair to say Rashford has been playing for a much more dysfunctional club than Pulisic as well.
 
Are we going to vet the political opinions of every player we sign? just to make sure they like the same people 'we' do.

Having said that I don't think he is much of an upgrade on what we have and adds no physicality to a team that badly needs it. Can't really see the point of taking him.
I'd question any player/individual that continues to support trump, yeh.
 
Let’s try to loan Pulisic AND Ziyech which gives us plenty of depth out wide with Sancho and Rashford also around and with Garnacho it’d also allow us to use Rashford through the middle as back up to Martial and whatever striker is brought in to replace Ronaldo.

I think it's not so hard to envisage how Pulisic might fit in and bring something, not so easy to see it with Ziyech in my view.
 
One of the best response to high pressing is attacking pace. A few decent balls over the top (ha!), and the opposition will need to drop deeper.

This will take some of the pressure off the oppositions high press, and give us a bit more space to control the ball and time to transition.
 
I think it's not so hard to envisage how Pulisic might fit in and bring something, not so easy to see it with Ziyech in my view.

I think it’s easy to see how both would fit in…they are both better than anything we have, they were bred in different, tactical and hard working environments so will adapt to ETHs approach and they don’t have the toxic entitled attitude of our current batch of overpaid wasters.
 
Come to think of it, with Ziyech links becoming more and more quiet, there's a chance we could consider it as player still being relatively in age to improve (23).
I'm not against the signing, just not sure he'd walk into the team like some think. He's also a very streaky confidence player, though a new environment might just be what he needs.
 
I'm not against the signing, just not sure he'd walk into the team like some think. He's also a very streaky confidence player, though a new environment might just be what he needs.
Same here. Resigning from pursuing Antony in August gives us little time to find perfect reinforcement and looks like Pulisic could be one of the actual few realistically available.
 
I'm not against the signing, just not sure he'd walk into the team like some think. He's also a very streaky confidence player, though a new environment might just be what he needs.
If his fitness issue not come again he will be handy. He had recurring injury issues. Just look at his injury records then you will find why didn't get consistent game time.
 
Ehhh I'm not completely against a loan deal. When fit he's an extremely hard worker and has a good attitude. We're thin on the wings and I think he would fit much better in a 4-2-3-1/4-3-3 set up than he would in Tuchels 3-5-2 system.
 
After City, we dominate the ball and spend more time attacking than anyone in the league statistically I think. So I don’t know where this myth that we somehow don't play attacking football comes form.

I'd say Tuchel's system is quintessentially control football, with neither a pronounced defensive nor offensive slant. But your scoring and xG were obvious negative standouts last season (if only in the highly relative sense of being markedly behind the top two). Big fan of Tuchel's style really, but it's always looked clear to me that where it sacrifices something is in offensive dynamism and in the volume of good scoring chances created. You have to have really good players in those two forward positions behind the striker/false 9 to make that work.

You were third in possession last year by the way, also behind Liverpool.
 
I'm not against the signing, just not sure he'd walk into the team like some think. He's also a very streaky confidence player, though a new environment might just be what he needs.
He wouldn't walk into the team, we don't need someone to walk into the team ahead of Sancho or Rashford. We need someone who can be an adequate level sub/competition for them/rotation for them. Can't have Elanga as your first winger sub.
 
Anything which means we see less of Rashford/Shaw/McTominey is good for me.

Casemiro/Pulisic, whatever. I can’t even bear watching the games anymore.

We need a turnover of players and to get the tenured, pampered characters out of the club.

He is a better footballer than Rashford, young and available. So yes!
 
Christian Pulisic has stagnated for us and he should definitely move to Manchester United. It is a shame, whenever he starts to hit top form, he picks up an injury and it stagnates him again. He has a hard time staying on form due to the injuries. I dont think his body can cope with the explosive pace that he naturally had. I fear that injuries have already started to chip away at his rapid pace. He also does not appear to trust his body in staying injury free, which means he does not push for top speed to beat his man. This has been an issue for us because our players have tendencies to pass back instead of beating their man on the wings. This is due to Ziyech having no pace, and Pulisic for the reasons mentioned above.

For Pulisics own good he should move. Tuchel simply does not trust him. This has roots all the way back to the Bundesliga, where Pulisic was dropped by Tuchel and was used mainly as an impact sub, similar to at Chelsea during Tuchels time.

Pulisic overall is a good player, however you cannot build the right side of your team with him because of his injury record. Your team will suffer because the player you build it around simply cant stay fit and available for a large portion of matches. This is why he is mainly an impact sub for us.
 
Are people actually turning up their nose on him? Do you guys not watch our games or something? He's better than Rashford and Elanga so immediately a starting forward for us.
 
We could do with a player like Pulisic to add depth to the front line, which to my knowledge has yet force a difficult save — let alone actually score a goal — in our first two matches. My hesitation, however, is that we have a potential beast in Garnacho. I realize we don’t want to throw the young beast into the snake pit of the PL headfirst this season, but on the other hand we may actually want to do just that.
 
Are people actually turning up their nose on him? Do you guys not watch our games or something? He's better than Rashford and Elanga so immediately a starting forward for us.

Yep. Some of our fans are delusional. At worst he will be the first attacking option off the bench (if Ronnie leaves). It’s a loan. So there is little risk. Like who else are we linked with that is interested to come here that is better than Pulisic?
 
He's better than Rashford to start with

Nonsense. Up until last season Rashford had double figures in the league 3 years in a row and hit 20 in all competitions in 2 of those season. Pulisic has never been close to that numbers.
 
You still haven’t named one attacking player that’s thrived under Tuchel though?!
Let’s take a look at the attacking players Tuchel has worked with so far:

Mount - continued to look great and was our best attacker last season
Werner - was already struggling before Tuchel came in, confidence was at rock bottom, flopped. Don’t see how Tuchel was the cause of that.
Lukaku - reverted back to his United form, got overweight, terrible attitude, struggles with basic football skills. Again, don’t see how Tuchel‘s tactics had anything to do with him struggling.
CHO - out injured time and again and when he has played the Achilles injury took a lot out of him.
Ziyech - this is the one player who I definitely feel has been a casualty of Tuchel’s system. A shadow of the player he was at Ajax.
Pulisic - also frequently injured, terribly inconsistent form, is lightweight and gets bullied often.

So no, I can’t really point to an attacker who has excelled since Tuchel has been here. But that’s not because of him. It’s because we have a hell of a lot of bang average attackers. We’ve had defenders who are more composed in the final third than many of our attacking players.
 
Let’s take a look at the attacking players Tuchel has worked with so far:

Mount - continued to look great and was our best attacker last season
Werner - was already struggling before Tuchel came in, confidence was at rock bottom, flopped. Don’t see how Tuchel was the cause of that.
Lukaku - reverted back to his United form, got overweight, terrible attitude, struggles with basic football skills. Again, don’t see how Tuchel‘s tactics had anything to do with him struggling.
CHO - out injured time and again and when he has played the Achilles injury took a lot out of him.
Ziyech - this is the one player who I definitely feel has been a casualty of Tuchel’s system. A shadow of the player he was at Ajax.
Pulisic - also frequently injured, terribly inconsistent form, is lightweight and gets bullied often.

So no, I can’t really point to an attacker who has excelled since Tuchel has been here. But that’s not because of him. It’s because we have a hell of a lot of bang average attackers. We’ve had defenders who are more composed in the final third than many of our attacking players.

Damning insight on the recruitment at the club then?

Havertz is another one who isn’t justifying his monster fee.
 
Damning insight on the recruitment at the club then?

Havertz is another one who isn’t justifying his monster fee.
Indeed, the recruitment has been super poor when it comes to attacking players. We as a club are excellent at signing defenders and midfielders but horrible at signing attackers for the most part.
 
I like him, and considering the work we have to do getting him on loan / cheap would be a good deal better than relying on Elanga / Garnacho as our first choice wide backups.

Too much still needs doing to be turning our noses up at the the likes of Pulisic.
 
Nonsense. Up until last season Rashford had double figures in the league 3 years in a row and hit 20 in all competitions in 2 of those season. Pulisic has never been close to that numbers.

Stats merchant. Baring a small spell under Ole and when he first broke through he's been garbage.
 
Not a fan tbh, insane hype levels but he hasn't really caught on under the manager who brought him to Europe.

For the amount he'd cost I'd prefer looking elsewhere
 
I think he's easily better than Rashford - who after a purple patch has reverted back to his mean - and more suited to the PL than Sancho.

A loan would be pointless though - it would need to a perm.
 
I would love for him to come but i can’t see Chelsea even loaning him to United. We probably refused to do business with them over Ronaldo as well