Christian Benteke | BBC: Liverpool Agree £32.5m Fee

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Is this sarcasm? Italians will always be the best defenders.
It's not a matter of having great defenders but playing against defensive week in, week out. Parking the bus takes another meaning in France which is stupid because when teams decide to attack more, they get better results.
Thats true but drogba was a goal every 2 game striker for most his career. Benteke is already a goal every 2 game striker already and has plenty of time to improve.

For me, it has to be more than just about stats. Benteke is a good player but I'm not sure he has the "cojones" to make the step up, it was evident in Drogba just after a few weeks at Marseille.
 
If Benteke is signed and with new additions in midfield it decreases Fellaini's game time or even his need.
 
Christian Benteke's agent has insisted there is no truth in reports linking the Aston Villa striker to Premier League rivals Manchester United.



The Daily Mail reported on Wednesday that the Red Devils had joined bitter Premier League rivals Liverpool in pursuit of the Aston Villa striker, who has a £32.5million release clause in his contract.

Villa boss Tim Sherwood appeared unconcerned over Benteke's future on Tuesday, saying: "I think he stays," when asked about his star man.

But with United having sealed moves for Bastian Schweinsteiger, Morgan Schneiderlin, Matteo Darmian and Memphis Depay this summer, the Mail claimed their next target would be 6ft 3 striker Benteke.

However, when asked by Sport Witness of United's supposed interest, the 24-year-old's agent, Eris Kismet, insisted the claims were "not true at all".

Benteke scored 15 goals in 33 appearances in all competitions for Sherwood's men last season, and his haul of 42 goals in 88 Premier League games over three seasons has seen him become one of the league's leading strikers.
 
Benteke is compared to Drogba?

Seriously?

Seriously, at the same age, Drogba was playing for Guingamp in Ligue 1. He joined them at the beginning of the 2002 season having managed to score 12 goals in 64 games for Le Mans in the previous 4 years. Yes, for Le Mans. I think some people expect Benteke to have reached his peak already because he has been successful from such a young age and has "been around" a while. His record for his age is very impressive. I think he's got development still in him and could thrive among better players.
 
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With confirmation about Chicharito 'returning' (whether for now or entire season, we will see), it makes it even more unlikely we will go for Benteke. 30M for backup? No thanks. Better Add 5-10M further and get Lewandowski if we are to buy.
 
With confirmation about Chicharito 'returning' (whether for now or entire season, we will see), it makes it even more unlikely we will go for Benteke. 30M for backup? No thanks. Better Add 5-10M further and get Lewandowski if we are to buy.

Bayern won't sell him. Who better could they possibly replace him with?
 
I wouldn't got near Benteke. He is too streaky. I've seen him being absolutely anonymous in too many games. In the recent Wales game, he was nothing short of disgraceful.

I'd rather we pushed for Benzema over Ramos, and just paid the money for Otamendi.
 
Not that highly rated here in Belgium - I'm guessing his national team performances have been quite underwhelming.

But then again, Hazard doesn't seem to be rated as highly here as he is in the UK. Kevin De Bruyne's the real big Belgian superstar.
 
Not that highly rated here in Belgium - I'm guessing his national team performances have been quite underwhelming.

But then again, Hazard doesn't seem to be rated as highly here as he is in the UK. Kevin De Bruyne's the real big Belgian superstar.
Why is that?
 
Not that highly rated here in Belgium - I'm guessing his national team performances have been quite underwhelming.

But then again, Hazard doesn't seem to be rated as highly here as he is in the UK. Kevin De Bruyne's the real big Belgian superstar.

I don't care who they rate he scores goals for both club and country and is better than any other Belguim striker.
 
Why is that?

I'm guessing it's to do with their international performance and De Bruyne just seems to be a lot more popular/likeable personality. His exploits in the Bundesliga have also attracted a lot of attention.

Or it might just be a regional thing. I work/live towards the Flemish region of Belgium and De Bruyne is Flemish while Hazard is from the south.
 
Has the potential to be our new Saha? Not worth 32 mill thats for sure but somewhere around 20 and i would think its a good signing for us
 
Given how much hard work we've put in to the transfer market over the last 2 years, bringing in talent like Mata, Di Maria, Depay, Schneid-steiger etc... I would feel bringing in a striker like Benteke would be a backwards step. The funds are clearly there to buy a better, less injury prone and more consistent striker so please LvG don't go down this road!
 
Given how much hard work we've put in to the transfer market over the last 2 years, bringing in talent like Mata, Di Maria, Depay, Schneid-steiger etc... I would feel bringing in a striker like Benteke would be a backwards step. The funds are clearly there to buy a better, less injury prone and more consistent striker so please LvG don't go down this road!

Who are these better strikers though?

Benzema - sounds like he would rather retire than come here.

Higuain - same price probably and a better striker I'll give you that

Kane - just too much hassle to prize away, my preferred choice though.

Other than them 3 he is better than all the other options and Lewa ain't going nowhere.
 
Has the potential to be our new Saha? Not worth 32 mill thats for sure but somewhere around 20 and i would think its a good signing for us
Christ, you'd hope for more than that. Hardly a player to use as your yardstick.
 
Benteke is compared to Drogba?

Seriously?

Drogba was a good player when he came to the PL but not spectacular. Mourinho made him the player he was but you have to have the raw talent. He also played in a very good side with a brilliant manager.

Benteke has scored a goal every other game for a frankly below average side. Under Lambert they barely got him into the game. Sherwood has him more involved and the result has been a lot of goals. As I said above he seems to have it all - strength, power, pace and the ability to hold the ball up. We lack someone with presence upfront and having a player like that gives us another dimension.

He's not an established "world class" forward - nobody sensible would say he is. But he's got a lot of potential and wouldn't take time to settle. He'd also not neccessarily be upset at not starting every game which given that Rooney is the first name on the team sheet might be a bonus.
 
Does Benteke stretch defences by making diagonal and horizontal runs?

This is what we need in a striker, and what the main issue was with Van Persie last season. Aguero and Suarez demonstrate this movement superbly. It doesn't take their technical skill to do it, it just takes effort.

I can't recall him ever doing this for this Villa.
 
He's a decent player but I've not seen anything to suggest he is worth in excess of £25M.

On a positive he is big, 6ft 3 inch, strong and quick so in that respect he has the physical attributes to be a success in the PL coupled with a decent scoring record.

If Villa are demanding £32m for him then I would rather bid another 15-20m for Kane.
 
Who are these better strikers though?

Benzema - sounds like he would rather retire than come here.

Higuain - same price probably and a better striker I'll give you that

Kane - just too much hassle to prize away, my preferred choice though.

Other than them 3 he is better than all the other options and Lewa ain't going nowhere.

How about Cavani? The guy is immensely talanted and, in our new look side could be a revelation. I agree with you re: Kane he would be a target of mine too but the price is likely very high there. As for the other 2 you mention, great players but for me it's Kane or Cavani.
 
Skysports. However it says over 35m.

But you are right, we might not get anything out of Bayern this year.

Rummenigge clearly stated that Bayern won`t sell more Players to us.


Noone. No chance of getting Lewandowski.

Bayern would be completely mad to sell Lewa. And why should he want to join us? He is the clear number 1 striker for them.
 
How about Cavani? The guy is immensely talanted and, in our new look side could be a revelation. I agree with you re: Kane he would be a target of mine too but the price is likely very high there. As for the other 2 you mention, great players but for me it's Kane or Cavani.

If we bought Cavani LvG would field him beside Rooney. I guess it would mean Rooney on the 10 again. And he is only appr. 16 months younger than Rooney.
Kane would be perfect but too expensive.

Are the no Young and promising strikers in the 20 Mio range?
 
While he may not be the "sexy" choice, you cannot argue with his record. Especially considering most of that was under lambert, and they didn't score a goal for how long?. Under sheerwood you can see his potential, I think he could make a great foil for our AMs to bounce off. He will also be a much better box target than Rooney. While I would prefer Lacazette I think Benteke will score bucket loads for us. If he can step up his game even more with us it might turn out to be a great signing.
 
Don't see the point of comparing him to Drogba other than both of them being big units.

Drogba's main assets was his value to overall play, with goals second. He should be compared with the likes of Kluivert or even Heskey (though obviously superior to both).

Benteke is the other way around. Unlike Lukaku, he can also play a bit, but he's a goalscorer first and foremost.

I'd sooner compare him to the likes of Vieri, McKay, and Toni.
 
While he may not be the "sexy" choice, you cannot argue with his record. Especially considering most of that was under lambert, and they didn't score a goal for how long?. Under sheerwood you can see his potential, I think he could make a great foil for our AMs to bounce off. He will also be a much better box target than Rooney. While I would prefer Lacazette I think Benteke will score bucket loads for us. If he can step up his game even more with us it might turn out to be a great signing.

Would you have been on board with us signing James Beattie when he was banging in goals for Southampton? It takes more than goals - he has to be able to participate in intricate passing moves with players like Ander, Mata and Basti - the guy would be so out of his depth it would limit the effectiveness of our attack.
 
He's probably worth £32m to Liverpool, but not to us... if that makes sense.

I don't think we are signing him as I don't think we will pay the release clause figure, the links seem to have gone cold for us but more recent suggestions say United are getting him.

I also think if he was going to Liverpool we would have signed him by now, seems odd waiting and risking someone else buying him when it's obvious what the price is.
 
Would you have been on board with us signing James Beattie when he was banging in goals for Southampton? It takes more than goals - he has to be able to participate in intricate passing moves with players like Ander, Mata and Basti - the guy would be so out of his depth it would limit the effectiveness of our attack.
He isn't some complete donkey though. He can pass and move fine? He's got better technique than lukaku in that sense. I'm not sure what other strikers available that LVG would like can offer that.
 
I don't think we are signing him as I don't think we will pay the release clause figure, the links seem to have gone cold for us but more recent suggestions say United are getting him.

I also think if he was going to Liverpool we would have signed him by now, seems odd waiting and risking someone else buying him when it's obvious what the price is.

True, I thought you'd have wrapped him up by now (I figured you were waiting on the Sterling money...). Possible that you may be trying to wait Villa out in order to lower their valuation? I just don't see us (or you) spending £32m on him though... he's not a £32m striker. If you're spending that much money, you want someone who is comfortably one of the better strikers in the league... not the 9th or 10th.

The only reason I said the above is because a) you probably need a striker more then we do b) he'll be a great foil for Sturridge I'd reckon.
 
I don't think we are signing him as I don't think we will pay the release clause figure, the links seem to have gone cold for us but more recent suggestions say United are getting him.

I also think if he was going to Liverpool we would have signed him by now, seems odd waiting and risking someone else buying him when it's obvious what the price is.

I think Pool have really dropped the ball on this one man. You's should have just paid the release clause & got him before someone else nipped in out of desperation. You know what you're gettin from Benteke & he's only 24, so he's got plenty of time to improve also..
 
True, I thought you'd have wrapped him up by now (I figured you were waiting on the Sterling money...). Possible that you may be trying to wait Villa out in order to lower their valuation? I just don't see us (or you) spending £32m on him though... he's not a £32m striker. If you're spending that much money, you want someone who is comfortably one of the better strikers in the league... not the 9th or 10th.

The only reason I said the above is because a) you probably need a striker more then we do b) he'll be a great foil for Sturridge I'd reckon.

I am a bit mixed on him, it's odd but I am not 100% sure I want Liverpool to sign him, but I don't really want to see United get him either!

We definitely need a quality striker, having said that we really need to offload a couple too.

The last I heard was before the Sterling sale, and we were interested but didn't want to pay the release clause value and were looking at an alternative way. But it's gone quiet now (even the RAWK thread on the player has been closed).

I think Pool have really dropped the ball on this one man. You's should have just paid the release clause & got him before someone else nipped in out of desperation. You know what you're gettin from Benteke & he's only 24, so he's got plenty of time to improve also..

You may be right - as I suggested we may have waited and missed out. Unless we are looking at selling a couple of our unwanted strikers first, or maybe have looked at other targets.
We still have:
Sturridge, Ings, Origi, Lambert who can play CF, second strlker or both

Ibe, Markovic, Lallana, Coutinho, Firmino who can play both wide or SS

Still have Borini and Balotelli on the books too
 
Would you have been on board with us signing James Beattie when he was banging in goals for Southampton? It takes more than goals - he has to be able to participate in intricate passing moves with players like Ander, Mata and Basti - the guy would be so out of his depth it would limit the effectiveness of our attack.

You mean like Rooney who has one of the worst first touches I've seen.
 
Would you have been on board with us signing James Beattie when he was banging in goals for Southampton? It takes more than goals - he has to be able to participate in intricate passing moves with players like Ander, Mata and Basti - the guy would be so out of his depth it would limit the effectiveness of our attack.
While I am neutral to the thought of signing benteke, this is not entirely true.

He would be a better option to play with that midfield than say hernandez or wilson or fellaini. Also the intricate passing doesnt have to involve the striker every single time, the end product of said passing could be for the striker to finish off for a goal, which he is adept at doing.
 
I am a bit mixed on him, it's odd but I am not 100% sure I want Liverpool to sign him, but I don't really want to see United get him either!

We definitely need a quality striker, having said that we really need to offload a couple too.

The last I heard was before the Sterling sale, and we were interested but didn't want to pay the release clause value and were looking at an alternative way. But it's gone quiet now (even the RAWK thread on the player has been closed).



You may be right - as I suggested we may have waited and missed out. Unless we are looking at selling a couple of our unwanted strikers first, or maybe have looked at other targets.
Signing Benteke for £32m, using almost all the money from the sale of Sterling, with Balotelli, Lambert and Borini still at the club wouldn't sit well with the fans though surely.

You already spent £35m on another similar player that didn't turn out to be a success for you. You need a hard working striker to suit your playing style, Benteke doesn't fit in that.
 
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