What makes you think he would want anything to do with Moyes
Chicharito Loan Watch | Real Madrid
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What makes you think he would want anything to do with Moyes
No. Moyes destroyed Hernandez' confidence last season with the limited game time he gave him. He didn't know how to get the best out of Him and I seriously doubt he would be able to if he goes there.
That was the first goal I saw him score from outside the box! All his other goals that I have seen until before this goal were either tap-ins/close-range finishes, headers or one-on-ones.
Scored 2 crackers against Deportivo early in the season if I remember.
he scored some great goals for real as well, maybe the first goal there if i am not mistaken.
Born in the wrong era. Nowadays teams are chasing some all round striker who does everything. Pure scorers like him are being marginalised as teams also prefer to play with one forward. Should move to a team that still plays with two strikers and doesn't look to possess the ball then he'll be great. Amazing that a better version of inzaghi is said to not be good enough/shite or what have you.
Chicha just needs to get his Ole on and be content with contributing when needed, that's all he's going to get at these big clubs.
Heh. A move forced by the Mexican NT manager, threatening to drop Chicharito if he didn't leave United. cnut.
If he came back and our striker options next season were Rooney, Hernandez, RVP and Wilson I would be pretty content with that.
I suspect he has now seen that the grass isn't always greener elsewhere. If I were LVG and wanted him to stay, I would show him how much of a legend Ole became as a super sub, and challenge him to replicate that. Plus he can see from this season that if you play well enough, you stay in the first team.
I suspect he has now seen that the grass isn't always greener elsewhere. If I were LVG and wanted him to stay, I would show him how much of a legend Ole became as a super sub, and challenge him to replicate that. Plus he can see from this season that if you play well enough, you stay in the first team.
Madrid only wanted him to sell shirts, it was pretty obvious. It's a shame it hasn't worked out for him but he was never going to displace Benzema.
I don't think LVG will keep him, he will probably go to Valencia or somebody like that as they always seem interested.
I don't think LVG will keep him, he will probably go to Valencia or somebody like that as they always seem interested.
Hernandez in 12/13: started 22 games; subbed on in 14; total of 36 games and scored 18 goals.
Hernandez in 13/14: started 13 games; subbed on in 23; total of 36 games and scored 10 goals.
Moyes took the term "super sub" out of hand and under utilised Hernandez, that too, in a season where RvP and Rooney seemed to pick up an injury every 3 or 4 games; and Welbeck continued his under whelming scoring record. I'd keep Hernandez for one more season as he could be of great importance next year, given that Falcao won't sign, and RvP will be 32 and on firmly on the decline. That would also mean we'd save money from not taking a punt on the likes of Lacazette, Dybala etc., who, in my opinion, are too young to make the move to the biggest stage. There were quite a few players termed as "non-LvG players", last summer, and they've turned out perfectly, 5-6 months later - Fellaini, Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young. Don't see why Hernandez cannot improve his game, he's only 26.
Hernandez in 13/14: started 13 games; subbed on in 23; total of 36 games and scored 10 goals.
Moyes took the term "super sub" out of hand and under utilised Hernandez, that too, in a season where RvP and Rooney seemed to pick up an injury every 3 or 4 games; and Welbeck continued his under whelming scoring record. I'd keep Hernandez for one more season as he could be of great importance next year, given that Falcao won't sign, and RvP will be 32 and on firmly on the decline. That would also mean we'd save money from not taking a punt on the likes of Lacazette, Dybala etc., who, in my opinion, are too young to make the move to the biggest stage. There were quite a few players termed as "non-LvG players", last summer, and they've turned out perfectly, 5-6 months later - Fellaini, Valencia, Smalling, Jones, Young. Don't see why Hernandez cannot improve his game, he's only 26.
Feel sorry for Hernandez, he's a really likeable guy. But I can't see a place for him at United if we're playing one up front with a pressing game. Doesnt suit his style.
Sorry to say it but I have no sympathy for him. It was an absolutely brain dead move.
He was moaning about being out of favour and wanting to start rather than play as a sub. Then he signs for Madrid.
You've got to be a special kind of thick to not see how this one plays out.
I don't blame any player for moving to RM but it was slightly big headed of Hernandez to think he would be anything but a bench player there.
The grass is not always greener, today's players lack any loyalty so his current situation is purely his own fault, he should enjoy the last few weeks at RM because it will most likely be the last big club he plays for.
The grass is not always greener, today's players lack any loyalty so his current situation is purely his own fault, he should enjoy the last few weeks at RM because it will most likely be the last big club he plays for.
It was orchestrated by his National Team manager. Even with Chicharito playing decent number of minutes with us in 13/14, Miguel Herrera completely dropped him in the World Cup. Now that he has moved to Real and with hardly playing, he has been brought back in the Mexico squad. I put the blame for this one fair and square on Herrera, but not a lot of people see it that way and accuse Hernandez.
Well, I dun think he isn't that bad. I would welcome him back in a heartbeat.
Him and Harry Kane are a kind of special breed of strikers in football nowadays
Him and Harry Kane are a kind of special breed of strikers in football nowadays
yes all like falcao's for united. which begs the question why not bring him back? LVG paid over the odds on the chance falcao would work why not do it again on a player we own?
Kick out Falcao and RVP and have Rooney, Hernandez and Wilson as strikers next season.
or keep him and let him know he's here as a part timer (if he will) i think him being around wilson would be great. RVP has great technique and could show it as a player still (not often enough) but think of him around younger strikers in training.
I'd do that but I can't see LVG even considering it. I would imagine Hernandez will want to go to a team for whom he will start; though I thought that last summer as well.
Hernandez is the player who would suit Di Maria's style of creativity, early crosses flying across the box.
He was never going to get enough games at Madrid, even with just Benzema as the only recognised striker. Limited player, who will always struggle to start games. Still love the guy, though. If he's not at United next season, I really hope he can find a club where he'll start for them.
Spot on. Maybe he fulfilled a lifetime dream at Real, but we all knew this was coming.
As @RooneyLegend said, he needs to go to a club that still plays two up top.
Dont we have to pay him 10m or something if he stays next season? Then we have to consider giving me a new contract because we dont want to lose him on a free transfer. Even if he can get 7m for him this summer, I'd be happy.
Not so sure about that mate if Rooney gets injured we are fecked, Wilson isn't ready to start week in and week out and Hernandez is Hernandez if the balls not on a plate for him he offers very little. If Rvp and Falcao both leave in the summer we need a striker regardless if Hernandez stays or goes imo.
Was Harry Kane ready to start week in week out at the start of the season? We need to give Wilson his chance.
If we can get Falcao on another loan that might be fine but I think RVP, Rooney, Falcao are the same so not ideal partners and we would have to probably sell Robin. You never know how Keane, Angelo, Wilson will develop going into next season. In a 4-3-3 you can get play with one striker and two goalscoring wingers. I think rDCR07 suggestion is pretty good. I think Hernandez, Rooney, Wilson would be plenty with goalscoring wingers. Players with pace who can create and score. Bale is an obvious one and deplay does it at a lower level. Wilson can also operate from that position as he's done it in the lower levels. I think actually with a more composed play in the final third it would relax Hernandez and make him a better player for us but he's made a balls up and let his ego make a bad decision. We have also Fellaini, who can act as a different type of forward player.
Rooney
Kane
Hernandez
Wilson
Would do quite nicely.
The threshold question re Hernandez is whether he wants to be a nailed on regular starter or be a part of a massive club like United. Contract issues being equal, if I were in his boots I'd choose United rather than join Villareal or Valencia.
Kane
Hernandez
Wilson
Would do quite nicely.
The threshold question re Hernandez is whether he wants to be a nailed on regular starter or be a part of a massive club like United. Contract issues being equal, if I were in his boots I'd choose United rather than join Villareal or Valencia.
Reading the story on his confidence hitting rock bottom at Real Madrid; Im sorry but what did he think was going to happen, did he think he was going to be playing every game?
Real Madrid sign a random player on loan every other season and to Real Madrid its just an addition/back up to the squad to sit on the bench but to a lot of the players that sign on these loans they see it as the defining moment in their football career and somehow become deluded into thinking the top team in the world have hunted them down and want them for the first team. Sorry mate but your just there to keep the bench warm.
I would happily have him back if he is happy to be used as a super sub but if he wants or expects any more than that then he needs to move on.
Real Madrid sign a random player on loan every other season and to Real Madrid its just an addition/back up to the squad to sit on the bench but to a lot of the players that sign on these loans they see it as the defining moment in their football career and somehow become deluded into thinking the top team in the world have hunted them down and want them for the first team. Sorry mate but your just there to keep the bench warm.
I would happily have him back if he is happy to be used as a super sub but if he wants or expects any more than that then he needs to move on.
I don't think Moyes did anything to him. He's just not very good.
If he went to Real thinking he was going to get game-time then he has rocks in his head.
Agree with that. I suppose with only really Benzema up top, he'd have thought there'd at least be a little more rotation. But yeah, silly to leave United for Madrid - citing lack of playing time as your reason.
He'll end up at a side like Villarreal and have a pretty good career.
He had two great seasons under SAF. 20 goals in his first and 18 in his last season. In his worst season uder SAF he had 12 goals and he missed quite a few games with injuries that season as well. Last season he only managed 9 goals. He wasn't played often in terms of minutes. I'd say Moyes had a proper negative effect on Hernandez.
he's an average player
He was 4th in order after Rooney, RvP, Falcao at United, and is 2nd at Madrid. We have new manager, and don't have CL; while Madrid just won CL and would be challenging on all trophies.
It would be stupid to refuse Madrid's loan, and stay at United.
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Yeah to be honest Rooney as the starter with RvP, Wilson, and Hernadez as options sounds very good to me. That gives us a variety of types of strikers ready to come off the bench depending on the situation... classy striker, speed, and poacher.
Sure we could spend boatloads on better, but would rather that money went to CB, wings, and maybe CM first...
Just me though
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Sure we could spend boatloads on better, but would rather that money went to CB, wings, and maybe CM first...
Just me though
.He's only 2nd choice at Madrid because all of their other forward players are wingers or No 10s. It's not as if he plays in rotation with Benzema, and may as well be considered 4th choice for all of the good it's done him in regards to minutes on the pitch to be 2nd choice.
How can you disagree with point 3? He didn't play regularly under Moyes because Moyes didn't fancy him. LvG let him go because LvG didn't fancy him. He doesn't play under Ancelotti because Ancelotti doesn't fancy him. He's failed to impress all of them, hence why he's not barely for any of them.
We bought Di Maria off the back of him doing well literally the season before, and having a decent WC. Buying Hernandez based off his form in 2012/13 when you're about to start the 2015/16 season is not at all the same thing, and it takes a special level of ignorance to not see that.
Point 5 is not the same as point 1. United always undersell, regardless of how much football the player in question has played approaching the transfer. Hernandez barely playing for 3 years will be a big factor for prospective buyers to consider. They can gamble on him finding his 2012/13 form again if given enough games, or look at the football he has played and take that as his level.
We have a limited squad size, and having Hernandez take up a space when he's going to be 4th choice at best is pointless.
I stopped caring much about him when he said he is now playing for the biggest club upon signing with RM, while actually still under contract with us. Maybe they forced him to say this, but he could easily have said "one of the biggest clubs in the world".
No big deal, but it went well for him at the biggest club in the world after all ...
Anyway when he was linked with them I already wrote he won't get many minutes as RM have so many attacking players and his alround game is nowhere near good enough to displace any of them despite his goal scoring instinct.
The less said about a few ppl thinking he would play ahead of Benzema the better!
No big deal, but it went well for him at the biggest club in the world after all ...
Anyway when he was linked with them I already wrote he won't get many minutes as RM have so many attacking players and his alround game is nowhere near good enough to displace any of them despite his goal scoring instinct.
The less said about a few ppl thinking he would play ahead of Benzema the better!