quite ridiculous logic from you. as that would have meant we would have kept Frazier Campbell and not bought Hernandez at all. Or kept Gibson and sold Anderson (maybe that would have worked out better
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)4 goals in 24 appearances for him last season. The ghost of Moyes would still be lingering over his head, I feel. He is a much better player and finisher than what that stat suggests, and obviously a better finisher than Welbeck.
People talking about promoting Wilson as 3rd/4th striker, I'm not even sure how that would work. He is still 18/19, and a lot of work needs to be done to bring him up to the physical levels of the top level. Surely we can't risk that?!
People talking about promoting Wilson as 3rd/4th striker, I'm not even sure how that would work. He is still 18/19, and a lot of work needs to be done to bring him up to the physical levels of the top level. Surely we can't risk that?!
Hernandez could have done better if we bothered to get the ball over the half way line. Apart from the goal, Rooney had a rough game, Mata who is supposed to be the play maker didn't even have a pulse out there. Hopefully Hernandez does leave for his own good, looks nothing like the player he was.
Wilson as 4th choice striker would be fine. If one of RVP or Rooney is injured, we just either play Welbeck, or switch to a 1 up top formation, or use Januzaj as a striker which he can do no problem. Wilson wouldn't get anything more then the odd captial one cup game unless all 3 of the senior strikers got injured.
Regarding Adnan - You want a player, who isn't yet established in his own position, to take other positions as well? Shifting 1 up top, or interchanging players isn't as easy as it seems (we've already seen that). Rather we play players in their usual positions.
During Fergie's last season, we had all 4 of them together, and yet we managed to give decent enough game time to all 4 (Given Welbeck played winger most of times, but still). I'd rather we shift Welbeck to the left (left winger, left inside forward, left side of the front 3 in a 4-3-3) than go all out for di Maria and spunk most of the money on him without addressing the CB/CM position.
During Fergie's last season we had champions league football, which we don't this season. And if the need came to it, then yes I'd play Januzaj up front, he's played there before in the reserves and it would only be in the worst injury crisis'. We have Rooney and Van Persie as strikers. Then Welbeck. We don't need another one whether we are playing 2 or just 1 up top, Hernandez just won't play unless they are all out injured.
And yes, Welbeck played most of that year on the wing and played like shit for the most part. That was the only way the strikers could all get game time. Don't forget Rooney had plenty of injuries that year.
As for the last sentence... Really????? You would rather play Welbeck on the left then sign one of the best wingers in the world, the type of player we really miss in our attack? I know we need a center back, but if we want to change formation to a 4-3-3 first of all we need to actually have a quality winger. It's not like if we sign him then we won't sign anyone else.
I would rather go for a CB/CM first and then think about other things. We are already top heavy. Purchasing a winger in this situation would make no sense considering we are paper thin at the back and lack quality in the midfield. And that too when he won't even fit in the current 3-5-2 formation.
And if we do play a two striker system, then we would definitely need 4 strikers in the squad (not counting Wilson et al) to rotate and all, because given Rooney/RvP's past, you never know when we'd need all of them.
The old Chica was more or less a first choice, and thrived on confidence. I know he's not an automatic first choice now, but I do think confidence plays a huge part because whatever else he lacked, he was a goal-scorer. He scored the clincher against Liverpool - he was either having a good game which will refute a lot of what's been said here, or was he just lucky? Either way, he won the game, and it proved he's capable of coming up with a goal when we need one. We hear all the time about what a player contributes to a team, and Chico only contributes goals. Well, hello....
He hardly got a chance last year, and we finished 7th. Personally, I'd rather see the others doing the fancy stuff and getting the ball into a player who does feck all else than score goals. Those more all-round players didn't exactly do it for us last year, did they? It wasn't just finishing seventh, it was the manner of the defeats - boring, lack-lustre games. One of the games that didn't fit that criteria was against Aston Villa, where Hernandez shone.
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Mexico leave Manchester United's Javier Hernandez to sort out future
Miguel Herrera says he has decided to leave Javier Hernandez out of his squad for Mexico’s upcoming friendlies so that he can sort out his future.
Reports have suggested that Hernandez could be allowed to move on from Manchester United before the end of the summer.
Louis van Gaal started the striker alongside Wayne Rooney against Swansea City last weekend but his chances could be limited at Old Trafford once Robin van Persie is back in contention following an extended break after the World
Cup.
Mexico boss Herrera, who has previously advised Hernandez to leave United, has opted not to include the 26-year-old in his plans for the games against Bolivia and Chile in the USA.
The squad will largely be made up of domestic-based players and will be confirmed next week, but a list of six men who ply their trade abroad has been released to notify their clubs of the call-ups.
“I had a word with him and we agreed that the best thing was to wait, most of all so he can stay where he is and decide his future,” Herrera told Mediotiempo.
“It's not good for him, and either for me, to have him in the team if he has his mind on what could happen with him.
"We are both calm, we don't have any hurry. We took the decision together so he can wait and see if there is a transfer or if he will stay there at Manchester.”
Meanwhile, Hernandez’s agent, Eduardo Hernandez, says it is still unclear whether the player will be heading out of United.
He said: "For the moment we don't have any news from Manchester, neither for if he is going to continue playing there or if they are going to negotiate his departure."
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...-uniteds-javier-hernandez-to-sort-out-future-
Miguel Herrera says he has decided to leave Javier Hernandez out of his squad for Mexico’s upcoming friendlies so that he can sort out his future.
Reports have suggested that Hernandez could be allowed to move on from Manchester United before the end of the summer.
Louis van Gaal started the striker alongside Wayne Rooney against Swansea City last weekend but his chances could be limited at Old Trafford once Robin van Persie is back in contention following an extended break after the World
Cup.
Mexico boss Herrera, who has previously advised Hernandez to leave United, has opted not to include the 26-year-old in his plans for the games against Bolivia and Chile in the USA.
The squad will largely be made up of domestic-based players and will be confirmed next week, but a list of six men who ply their trade abroad has been released to notify their clubs of the call-ups.
“I had a word with him and we agreed that the best thing was to wait, most of all so he can stay where he is and decide his future,” Herrera told Mediotiempo.
“It's not good for him, and either for me, to have him in the team if he has his mind on what could happen with him.
"We are both calm, we don't have any hurry. We took the decision together so he can wait and see if there is a transfer or if he will stay there at Manchester.”
Meanwhile, Hernandez’s agent, Eduardo Hernandez, says it is still unclear whether the player will be heading out of United.
He said: "For the moment we don't have any news from Manchester, neither for if he is going to continue playing there or if they are going to negotiate his departure."
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...-uniteds-javier-hernandez-to-sort-out-future-
If Welbeck and Hernandez leave, we're left with Rooney and van Persie, both injury prone, perhaps Kagawa who can slot into striker, and Wilson, who's unproven. Thought I would never see the day we're short on strikers...unless a miracle is happening this coming week.
Well januzaj can play up there and we could also very easily play with one up top, and play several players just behind them.
If woodward gets him dream, he'll finally bring in Cavani.
He is not good enough for Mexico...
I don't like him very much.
The number of touches he takes for an idea is bloody criminal.
He's only a good player when you've got control and are creating numerous opportunities. He's not going to create anything by himself.
He's turned into an awful player here... Has to go to revive his career really.
He doesn't suit this system - he's at his best in the system we played in 10/11 where half his job was to whizz around creating space in front of Rooney and our wide players with his movement. When he's actually forced to contribute to build up it all falls apart.
Been poor since '11, let's be honest.
His value is decreasing by the minute.
He can't pass or shoot anymore. What happened?
2012 actually
He's useless and has been for a while.
Zero confidence and no idea where his future lies?
And it's not just him is it. It's virtually the whole team.
I still maintain that witchcraft is involved.
I agree completely. But he can't have good reason to be banging on the door for not playing when he consistently plays dreadful whenever he starts.
This guy was worth 15m at one point, we'd do well to get 6m for him atm...
I don't want him wearing our shirt ever again. Disgraceful performance.
His future is uncertain because he is fecking shite.
He's scored some very important goals & is a likeable lad, but now is the time to sell him.
He looks worse than some people I know who've never played the sport. Hopefully his future is certainly somewhere else. I use to like him but please go away.
His future is hopefully away from United (never thought I'd say that)
I don't think his heart is here anymore. He doesn't have the desire anymore to play for Manchester United. Under Fergie he was energized but now he just looks deflated.
Poor player made out to be better than he is thanks to a nice personality.
Now that he isn't scoring goals, his flaws are magnified. I think Fergie had it spot on when he said he is a penalty box player. He used to get subbed on during moments when we were throwing the kitchen sink at teams and creating chance after chance, in any other situation he is of little to no use.
I agree but I'll bet that if/when he moves on, he'll be a different player.
Completely agree. It now seems as though it's best for all parties for him to be moved on.
Aadios Amigo
Javier Hernandez: My point is uncertain
He actually improved his build-up play quite a bit for a while. He's useless in every sense of the word now though - passing to opponents, rarely being in the right spot. Seems to have lost a bit of pace as well, but that might just be because his not in form.
Should be below Wilson in the pecking order from now on.