Chicharito Loan Watch | Real Madrid

Would hate to see him leave but for his career, he should. He'll score goals where ever he goes, can see him hitting at least 20-25 if he goes to a club like Atletico
 
He'll only be good enough as a sub for us when he has to compete with Rooney, RVP and Welbeck.

Unless he's happy with that, which I would completely understand if he isn't, then he should leave. It will be sad to see him go as you couldn't ask for a better professional.
 
http://www.espnfc.co.uk/story/19816...hicharito-hernandez-leaving-manchester-united

SANTA CLARA, Calif. -- Mexico national team manager Miguel Herrera says he is in favor of Javier "Chicharito" Hernandez leaving Manchester United.

Hernandez made 24 league appearances for the Red Devils last season, but just six of those were starts, and reportedly he has been told by new United manager Louis Van Gaal to look for another club.

Herrera is of the belief that a change of scenery in needed and thinks Hernandez's rumored move to Juventus would serve the player well.

"I think [Chicharito] needs to leave," said Herrera in an exclusive interview with ESPN FC, with the help of a translator. "I think [Juventus] would be a good option for him. When a coach doesn't want you -- when you have your best experience, your best moment with them, and now the coach that wanted you is no longer there -- it's time to move.

"I think there are a lot of opportunities. They are not bad opportunities. If he goes to Juventus that would be an extraordinary team. Without a doubt, it would be a nice change for him. Hopefully he'll see more minutes."
 
He looked fairly happy in that selfie with Mata, De Gea and Herrera. I guess you can't expect the guy to be moaping about but, if he has been told to get gone, he seems unusually cool about it.

Maybe the media have misinterpreted? Maybe he was told something like you'll be 4th choice when Van Persie's fit, so we'll listen to offers for you and if you want to play more you'll need to go?

After we beat Liverpool Van Gaal said he'd tell the players how he felt and let them decide. Maybe Hernandez is cool with being a sub, or thinks he can change Van Gaal's mind?
 
#07 said:
He looked fairly happy in that selfie with Mata, De Gea and Herrera. I guess you can't expect the guy to be moaping about but, if he has been told to get gone, he seems unusually cool about it.

Maybe the media have misinterpreted? Maybe he was told something like you'll be 4th choice when Van Persie's fit, so we'll listen to offers for you and if you want to play more you'll need to go?

After we beat Liverpool Van Gaal said he'd tell the players how he felt and let them decide. Maybe Hernandez is cool with being a sub, or thinks he can change Van Gaal's mind?
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He looked happy on tour, but he also said on tour he could be moving to Seria A so I wouldn't expect him to be moping about, as it seems he was already aware he could be leaving the club to be fair.
 
Should be third choice on form. He will score 20+ goals for any club willing to give him a shot and he will be one of those regretful sells
 
one340 said:
Should be third choice on form. He will score 20+ goals for any club willing to give him a shot and he will be one of those regretful sells
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Would hardly go down as a regret. He will never be good enough to get what he wants at Old Trafford, so the club will get a good fee for him (that's a positive), he can get the move for he wants and start games (a positive for him). Love the guy to bits but if his heart is set on playing regular football, it's best for both parties to move on.
 
Eric'sCollar said:
Would hardly go down as a regret. He will never be good enough to get what he wants at Old Trafford, so the club will get a good fee for him (that's a positive), he can get the move for he wants and start games (a positive for him). Love the guy to bits but if his heart is set on playing regular football, it's best for both parties to move on.
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It will be a regret when we will see him scoring 20 odd goals for any other team.
 
coolredwine said:
It will be a regret when we will see him scoring 20 odd goals for any other team.
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But that will be because he is starting and will be the main threat. He won't be that at United, so we have to deal with it.
 
Eric'sCollar said:
But that will be because he is starting and will be the main threat. He won't be that at United, so we have to deal with it.
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As of now, I think he would be an able back up for RvP/Rooney. Should one of them get injured/lose form (considering our newly found 2 striker system), he can easily slot in one of the roles without any fuss
 
Eric'sCollar said:
But that will be because he is starting and will be the main threat. He won't be that at United, so we have to deal with it.
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He scored close to 18 as third choice in the 2012/13 season and had a few calls gone our way maybe made would have passed 20. Granted we won't be playing as many games this season but considering the age of RVP and him being injury prone, having Hernandez is better than losing him right now for the club
 
coolredwine said:
As of now, I think he would be an able back up for RvP/Rooney. Should one of them get injured/lose form (considering our newly found 2 striker system), he can easily slot in one of the roles without any fuss
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Yes he is a suitable backup but he can't base his plans of being a starter around a player getting injured. To get what he wants, he unfortunately needs to leave.
 
one340 said:
He scored close to 18 as third choice in the 2012/13 season and had a few calls gone our way maybe made would have passed 20. Granted we won't be playing as many games this season but considering the age of RVP and him being injury prone, having Hernandez is better than losing him right now for the club
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We will always look to bring in the best players, like we did with RVP. When RVP leaves, we will look to another big striker. Hernandez's value will be far less then, so it makes sense for him to start playing sooner than later at another club and us to get a decent fee for him.
 
It's been said before and I'll say it again. He wants to be first choice and he will never be that at United. If he feels he can no longer be happy being a back up player he should move on. Januzaj is more than comfortable up front and we have Wilson coming through too.
 
Raoul said:
http://www.espnfc.co.uk/story/19816...hicharito-hernandez-leaving-manchester-united

SANTA CLARA, Calif. -- Mexico national team manager Miguel Herrera says he is in favor of Javier "Chicharito" Hernandez leaving Manchester United.

Hernandez made 24 league appearances for the Red Devils last season, but just six of those were starts, and reportedly he has been told by new United manager Louis Van Gaal to look for another club.

Herrera is of the belief that a change of scenery in needed and thinks Hernandez's rumored move to Juventus would serve the player well.

"I think [Chicharito] needs to leave," said Herrera in an exclusive interview with ESPN FC, with the help of a translator. "I think [Juventus] would be a good option for him. When a coach doesn't want you -- when you have your best experience, your best moment with them, and now the coach that wanted you is no longer there -- it's time to move.

"I think there are a lot of opportunities. They are not bad opportunities. If he goes to Juventus that would be an extraordinary team. Without a doubt, it would be a nice change for him. Hopefully he'll see more minutes."
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Jumping from a frying pan into the fire. Juventus already have Tevez, Llorente and Morata, where does Herrera think he is going to get minutes from.
 
Hernandez does need to move for his own good. He will is only going to be a back up option at United, and we have Wilson who can do the same thing. Wilson is young, but he would be used sparingly so that we do not burn him out. Hernandez is all about scoring goals, but Wilson also has goals written all over him.
 
I don't see him scoring 20+ goals as a starter for anyone other than us in his first year.

He's regressed since then with his finishing and confidence and he won't be an automatic starter at any other big club so most likely won't get the service he needs.
 
Could very well be the last time we see him in a United shirt. Wrong system, wouldn't get anywhere near the line up when RvP and Welbeck are back.
 
We should hold onto him until we get a decent offer. I'm sick of getting lowball offers just because his name isn't always one of the first on the team sheet. He can still perform coming off the bench and we should dictate the price. Herrera can do one. No one should tell us who we should or shouldn't sell, if we want to be the biggest club in the world then we should start acting like it. He's 26 and in his prime. He has a great attitude, excellent movement, and is a natural finisher. At any other club he would command at least £20m, easily.
 
mu4c_20le said:
We should hold onto him until we get a decent offer. I'm sick of getting lowball offers just because his name isn't always one of the first on the team sheet. He can still perform coming off the bench and we should dictate the price. Herrera can do one. No one should tell us who we should or shouldn't sell, if we want to be the biggest club in the world then we should start acting like it. He's 26 and in his prime. He has a great attitude, excellent movement, and is a natural finisher. At any other club he would command at least £20m, easily.
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Why? We need to unload players if LvG wants a 22-23 man squad.
 
mu4c_20le said:
We should hold onto him until we get a decent offer. I'm sick of getting lowball offers just because his name isn't always one of the first on the team sheet. He can still perform coming off the bench and we should dictate the price. Herrera can do one. No one should tell us who we should or shouldn't sell, if we want to be the biggest club in the world then we should start acting like it. He's 26 and in his prime. He has a great attitude, excellent movement, and is a natural finisher. At any other club he would command at least £20m, easily.
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At this point I would rather sell him for a couple of millions less and give more gametime to Wilson as 4th striker than keep him for another season with no certainty that his value will grow. He is not suited to this type of football.

He got quite a big share of minutes during pre-season games though, interesting.
 
Its becoming pretty obvious that he has no future here, he was invisible for the whole game today and I don´t think their is a place for a player like him in this formation. We look more fluid in attack when Welbeck was playing next to Rooney, with Hernandez there it is almost like we have a player missing in the build up. With Wilson and the need to give him some well deserved game time I think we should look to sell him now he has given his loyalty to the club and he deserves better than to sit on the bench for the next season if we get a couple of million less for him so be it.
 
Do we still have people who find him as better striker than Welbeck? It's quite obvious that level of our play is on another level when Welbeck is there instead of Hernandez, I don't see point of starting him anymore at all when everybody else is fit. Rooney, RvP, Welbeck and Januzaj(and hopefully Wilson too) should(and I am sure they will) all be ahead of him in pecking order for striker positions once they are fit.

He is a good lad so I hope he finds himself decent club where he could play more often.
 
Anonymous is the right word. I like him but I think a move would probably be best for all parties.
 
Apart from one ball near the start of the game where he failed to get to, I barely remember seeing him. May have been his last game for the club.
 
Love him but he's got to go, doesn't suit the team at all and at this point, I'd play Rooney, rvp, welbeck, januzaj all ahead of him. I'd rather change the formation and play 1 striker then him as well.
 
Hernandez is a poacher...so when he doesn't get any service, he is going to appear anonymous.
 
A great potential talent that never got the chance to grow. Needs to go.
 
I think he'll be gone by the end of the transfer window if not sooner. He provides goals but cant create them and we need both for the two players up front.
 
he was a little worse than rooney and is not a captain so he had to be subbed. He has absolutely no future in club with his form and wages. We need a striker who can play with the ball. Welbeck is hugely missed. So maybe give a chance to Wilson or Januzaj off the striker..
 
Hamadovich86 said:
I think he'll be gone by the end of the transfer window if not sooner. He provides goals but cant create them and we need both for the two players up front.
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To be fair to him he might of had some chance of scoring there today if practically every cross or set piece wasn't put straight into the arms of Fabianski.

Keep that craic up and it probably won't make much difference who's up front.
 
He future is certain to me - he is going if we can find a buyer or going to spend most of the season on the bench or in the stand.

He seems a shadow of the finishing whippet we signed.
 
Hernandez has lost what made him so lethal in the past. His ability to be in the right place and his off the ball movement. Even now, he look like our worst finisher in the team. I never fell for the Hernandez hype because I always knew that he was limited. He needs a team that is direct and does not play intricate football to become the player he used to be. Under Van Gaal, the style we are aiming for is similiar to the style Manchester City, Bayern, Arsenal, Barcelona, or Ajax plays. That style does not suit Hernandez, as such I am surprised that Van Gaal has kept him or even Fellaini up till now. Of course it is good to have a plan B, but he seems to be using them as a plan A, which does not adhere to the total footballing philosophy.
 
Hernandez has one asset as a footballer, his ability to be in the right place at the right time in the box. Without that, he's an abomination of a footballer. No vision, no pace, awful first touch. People talk about his sale value, turning their nose up at 12m for him. I'd bite someone's hand off if they offered that for him.

He's scored some important goals for us but I've never rated him as a player. His place in the squad is much better served by James Wilson. One of many to be used in a clear out. Even Mexicans think he's shit.
 
RuudTom83 said:
Hernandez is a poacher...so when he doesn't get any service, he is going to appear anonymous.
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Yep. He's in the Owen mould of a player. When will people realise that he will do nothing for 98% of games.

He is the type that looks great in a team creating lots of chances, which isn't us at the moment. The more chances we create, the more involved Chicha will be.
 
Amadaeus said:
Hernandez has lost what made him so lethal in the past. His ability to be in the right place and his off the ball movement. Even now, he look like our worst finisher in the team. I never fell for the Hernandez hype because I always knew that he was limited. He needs a team that is direct and does not play intricate football to become the player he used to be. Under Van Gaal, the style we are aiming for is similiar to the style Manchester City, Bayern, Arsenal, Barcelona, or Ajax plays. That style does not suit Hernandez, as such I am surprised that Van Gaal has kept him or even Fellaini up till now. Of course it is good to have a plan B, but he seems to be using them as a plan A, which does not adhere to the total footballing philosophy.
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The team has lost the tempo, pace and creativity for someone like Chicha. When we were crushing teams he looked a great poacher / striker. Now we are struggling he is offering not a lot as that's not his game. I think we are spoiled by having Rooney in the team he does the work of about 3 players every game.
 
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