So Cesc to Chelsea is a done deal or what?
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And Fabregas is Catalan. So Jose would have no problem signing him while still continuing to hate Spaniards.
I don't. Not even Van Gaal will squeeze 100% from this bunch. Fletcher looks like he still has his post sickness symptoms which is really sad. Last season it was just heartbreaking watching him trying to make a through or any tactical pass.The Caf meltdown if we went into the new season with Carrick, Cleverly, Fletcher, Fellaini and a returned Anderson.
Funny thing is, I can see it happening.
Carrick, Cleverley and Fellaini... maybe, but that's a big maybe. Will require time under new training methods.
No midfield additions will lead to raged opinions, not only from transfer muppets.
I don't care if you don't think he fits into Van Gaals system, this is a signing we should be making. There really shouldn't be any discussion on the matter, it's that simple.
You should've just come to us last summer you pizza throwing twonk.
The first thing I'd do is make sure that Anderson is as far away from this club as possible. Carrick would be kept on, Cleverly would be kept on as I think that he's far better than he's shown last season. I'd sell Fellaini as he's clearly not suited to us and everybody knew it but Moyes and let Fletcher go, as harsh as that may sound. That leaves room for two additions.
That makes 0 sense specially considering Van Gaal is known to freeze out players pushed on him.
Why would Arsenal not take Fabregas? It's like Van Persie and Mata to United, you may not necessarily need them but these type of players don't crop up often and they can prove to be crucial, with RVP effectively winning the title for you and Mata being a bright spark in a horrid season.
So basically the United midfield acquisition spree appears to be looking like an injured guy and fresh air.
Too many CMs. That's the only area where they actually have plenty of players. Fabregas, Wilshere and Ramsey competing for 1 spot is overkill.
Yeah, it's not like we have lots of injuries or anything and need lots of options.
RVP, Rooney, Hernandez, Welbeck.
Mata, Kagawa, Rooney, Januzaj, Young, Valencia, Nani.
That's overkill too, yet United have proved it to be manageable, and when it's a top class player it's a risk worth taking in my view. What Grinner said too actually, Arsenal seem to be terrible for fitness/injury issues, especially in CM/AM where their biggest strengths lie.
Yeah, we really suffered in that Mikel deal. £12m for an absolute dose of a footballer.
I want to sign him just because it would be awful seeing him in a Chav shirt.
Even then, 3 players, none of whom would be happy with a squad role is too much.
Hernandez and Welbeck are squad players and as long as they're aware of that, it isnt a problem. As we've seen though last season, there have been issues as they're no longer content being squad players. Its the same with the likes of Young Valencia Nani Januzaj Kagawa etc. They're squad players and they know it. That cant be the same with Wilshere, Ramsey and Fabregas, cant see any of them willing to be squad players. That's just for 1 spot as all of them need another CM alongside them.
All of that said, if its between Chelsea and Arsenal, I'd rather Arsenal get him.
We'll probably end up overpaying €30m for Enzo Perez who'll turn out not to be good enough. We'll expect to sign Strootman in the Winter but As Roma will turn us down and we won't get him either. Than we'll likely go through the same shit next summer.
Fully expecting us to compleltey ruin this transfer summer and have a very frustrating season again. I'll be happy if we manage to get back into the top 4, but I'am ready to give up on the hope of ever becoming a real top team again in the near future. It is very clear the priorities of the management are not focussed on sportive success, rather on maintaining useless traditions and signing high value commercial deals (not that anything is wrong wiith the commercial deals ofc), clearly signing top players isn't very high on their list, and if it is, then clearly they haven't gotten the right people/system in charge to make it happen. This club has always been about dithering and doubting, delaying problems to the next year and we are paying the price of such kind of transfer conduct (every team and their dog overtake us in the speed of doing deals, and we're left with the scraps). Highly likely we'll go trough 2 or 3 really difficult barren years, then perhaps if the Glazers sell us after that difficult period and some new owner puts in place another management we could come back to being a top club again, that or we'll end up being our own kind of sleeping giant (that constantly fecks about and screws up the most simple things) for the next couple of decades like Liverpool have been. It is starting to become very clear the Manchester United dynasty/era has come to an abrupt end or is seriously in danger of ending (with no capable people in charge to stop it).
Fully expected the club to make a statement of intent in transfermarket as soon as the season was over, fully expected some deals to be ligned up and finalised before the world cup. But we are just completley passive and are overtaken again by all other teams in the market. Fully expect that almost none of the top players we could have signed will still be available after the world cup, we'll be lucky to end up overpaying for 2nd or 3th choice in the midfield and we'll be lucky to land Shaw as the only overpaid consolation player (altough I expect we'll feck that one up aswell somehow).
I hate this club and transfer windows
Out of us, Chelsea, Liverpool and City, which shirt would you like to see him in the most?
Strange of Wenger to turn down Cesc if it`s true, considering Ramsey`s injury problems. Just play a goddamn diamond if Ozil can`t play from the right. Their wingers are basically shit anyways.
------Giroud------Striker (Podolski, Walcott)
------------Ozil-----------(Cazorla)
----Ramsey----Cesc-----(Wilshere, Ox-Chamberlain)
------------DM------------(Flamini or Arteta)
Gibbs------------------RB (Monreal, Jenkinson)
----Koscielny-Mertesacker-(Vermaelen, CB)
looks good to me. Giroud`s best asset is his link-up play anyways, Ozil likes to go wide all the time and they could find a striker who also gives them a bit of width. They could also start Ozil up front and play Cazorla as a 10 when they play slow CB`s who aren`t sitting on their own touchline.
------Giroud------Striker (Podolski, Walcott)
------------Ozil-----------(Cazorla)
----Ramsey----Cesc-----(Wilshere, Ox-Chamberlain)
------------DM------------(Flamini or Arteta)
Gibbs------------------RB (Monreal, Jenkinson)
----Koscielny-Mertesacker-(Vermaelen, CB)
looks good to me. Giroud`s best asset is his link-up play anyways, Ozil likes to go wide all the time and they could find a striker who also gives them a bit of width. They could also start Ozil up front and play Cazorla as a 10 when they play slow CB`s who aren`t sitting on their own touchline.
Two midfield additions would boost morale of any United supporter and should be a priority goal to achieve for everyone in the club... I mean, we're still looking for a player that would emulate Scholesy's abilities from more than 3 years. I would definitely kept Carrick too, as he's the only midfielder with a tactical clue so far.
If I would have to type the midfielders we'll sign, it would definitely be Fabregas and Strootman. Both realistic targets with some questions about their current club situation but this current informational blackout in United camp isn't helping at all to reach any conclusion about our targets.
Imagine being an Arsenal fan. Cole, Adebayor, Toure, Clichy, Nasri, Van Persie, Fabregas all played in largely the same side but fecked off to other English clubs.
They're a selling club. Ramsey please.
They're a selling club. Ramsey please.
feck me. I have no words.We'll probably end up overpaying €30m for Enzo Perez who'll turn out not to be good enough. We'll expect to sign Strootman in the Winter but As Roma will turn us down and we won't get him either. Than we'll likely go through the same shit next summer.
Fully expecting us to compleltey ruin this transfer summer and have a very frustrating season again. I'll be happy if we manage to get back into the top 4, but I'am ready to give up on the hope of ever becoming a real top team again in the near future. It is very clear the priorities of the management are not focussed on sportive success, rather on maintaining useless traditions and signing high value commercial deals (not that anything is wrong wiith the commercial deals ofc), clearly signing top players isn't very high on their list, and if it is, then clearly they haven't gotten the right people/system in charge to make it happen. This club has always been about dithering and doubting, delaying problems to the next year and we are paying the price of such kind of transfer conduct (every team and their dog overtake us in the speed of doing deals, and we're left with the scraps). Highly likely we'll go trough 2 or 3 really difficult barren years, then perhaps if the Glazers sell us after that difficult period and some new owner puts in place another management we could come back to being a top club again, that or we'll end up being our own kind of sleeping giant (that constantly fecks about and screws up the most simple things) for the next couple of decades like Liverpool have been. It is starting to become very clear the Manchester United dynasty/era has come to an abrupt end or is seriously in danger of ending (with no capable people in charge to stop it).
Fully expected the club to make a statement of intent in transfermarket as soon as the season was over, fully expected some deals to be ligned up and finalised before the world cup. But we are just completley passive and are overtaken again by all other teams in the market. Fully expect that almost none of the top players we could have signed will still be available after the world cup, we'll be lucky to end up overpaying for 2nd or 3th choice in the midfield and we'll be lucky to land Shaw as the only overpaid consolation player (altough I expect we'll feck that one up aswell somehow).
I hate this club and transfer windows
If he wants to stick to this side to assess their quality then he might as well keep his stuff in the bags as he's going on away by may
Im with you on this meltdown.We'll probably end up overpaying €30m for Enzo Perez who'll turn out not to be good enough. We'll expect to sign Strootman in the Winter but As Roma will turn us down and we won't get him either. Than we'll likely go through the same shit next summer.
Fully expecting us to compleltey ruin this transfer summer and have a very frustrating season again. I'll be happy if we manage to get back into the top 4, but I'am ready to give up on the hope of ever becoming a real top team again in the near future. It is very clear the priorities of the management are not focussed on sportive success, rather on maintaining useless traditions and signing high value commercial deals (not that anything is wrong wiith the commercial deals ofc), clearly signing top players isn't very high on their list, and if it is, then clearly they haven't gotten the right people/system in charge to make it happen. This club has always been about dithering and doubting, delaying problems to the next year and we are paying the price of such kind of transfer conduct (every team and their dog overtake us in the speed of doing deals, and we're left with the scraps). Highly likely we'll go trough 2 or 3 really difficult barren years, then perhaps if the Glazers sell us after that difficult period and some new owner puts in place another management we could come back to being a top club again, that or we'll end up being our own kind of sleeping giant (that constantly fecks about and screws up the most simple things) for the next couple of decades like Liverpool have been. It is starting to become very clear the Manchester United dynasty/era has come to an abrupt end or is seriously in danger of ending (with no capable people in charge to stop it).
Fully expected the club to make a statement of intent in transfermarket as soon as the season was over, fully expected some deals to be ligned up and finalised before the world cup. But we are just completley passive and are overtaken again by all other teams in the market. Fully expect that almost none of the top players we could have signed will still be available after the world cup, we'll be lucky to end up overpaying for 2nd or 3th choice in the midfield and we'll be lucky to land Shaw as the only overpaid consolation player (altough I expect we'll feck that one up aswell somehow).
I hate this club and transfer windows
We'll probably end up overpaying €30m for Enzo Perez who'll turn out not to be good enough. We'll expect to sign Strootman in the Winter but As Roma will turn us down and we won't get him either. Than we'll likely go through the same shit next summer.
Fully expecting us to compleltey ruin this transfer summer and have a very frustrating season again. I'll be happy if we manage to get back into the top 4, but I'am ready to give up on the hope of ever becoming a real top team again in the near future. It is very clear the priorities of the management are not focussed on sportive success, rather on maintaining useless traditions and signing high value commercial deals (not that anything is wrong wiith the commercial deals ofc), clearly signing top players isn't very high on their list, and if it is, then clearly they haven't gotten the right people/system in charge to make it happen. This club has always been about dithering and doubting, delaying problems to the next year and we are paying the price of such kind of transfer conduct (every team and their dog overtake us in the speed of doing deals, and we're left with the scraps). Highly likely we'll go trough 2 or 3 really difficult barren years, then perhaps if the Glazers sell us after that difficult period and some new owner puts in place another management we could come back to being a top club again, that or we'll end up being our own kind of sleeping giant (that constantly fecks about and screws up the most simple things) for the next couple of decades like Liverpool have been. It is starting to become very clear the Manchester United dynasty/era has come to an abrupt end or is seriously in danger of ending (with no capable people in charge to stop it).
Fully expected the club to make a statement of intent in transfermarket as soon as the season was over, fully expected some deals to be ligned up and finalised before the world cup. But we are just completley passive and are overtaken again by all other teams in the market. Fully expect that almost none of the top players we could have signed will still be available after the world cup, we'll be lucky to end up overpaying for 2nd or 3th choice in the midfield and we'll be lucky to land Shaw as the only overpaid consolation player (altough I expect we'll feck that one up aswell somehow).
I hate this club and transfer windows
Scintillating post, in a really, really bad way.
Hardly a surprise.
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Probably should have made the question more theatrical as it was meant to be rhetorical in nature, not literal.
Probably should have made the question more theatrical as it was meant to be rhetorical in nature, not literal.
We'll probably end up overpaying €30m for Enzo Perez who'll turn out not to be good enough. We'll expect to sign Strootman in the Winter but As Roma will turn us down and we won't get him either. Than we'll likely go through the same shit next summer.
Fully expecting us to compleltey ruin this transfer summer and have a very frustrating season again. I'll be happy if we manage to get back into the top 4, but I'am ready to give up on the hope of ever becoming a real top team again in the near future. It is very clear the priorities of the management are not focussed on sportive success, rather on maintaining useless traditions and signing high value commercial deals (not that anything is wrong wiith the commercial deals ofc), clearly signing top players isn't very high on their list, and if it is, then clearly they haven't gotten the right people/system in charge to make it happen. This club has always been about dithering and doubting, delaying problems to the next year and we are paying the price of such kind of transfer conduct (every team and their dog overtake us in the speed of doing deals, and we're left with the scraps). Highly likely we'll go trough 2 or 3 really difficult barren years, then perhaps if the Glazers sell us after that difficult period and some new owner puts in place another management we could come back to being a top club again, that or we'll end up being our own kind of sleeping giant (that constantly fecks about and screws up the most simple things) for the next couple of decades like Liverpool have been. It is starting to become very clear the Manchester United dynasty/era has come to an abrupt end or is seriously in danger of ending (with no capable people in charge to stop it).
Fully expected the club to make a statement of intent in transfermarket as soon as the season was over, fully expected some deals to be ligned up and finalised before the world cup. But we are just completley passive and are overtaken again by all other teams in the market. Fully expect that almost none of the top players we could have signed will still be available after the world cup, we'll be lucky to end up overpaying for 2nd or 3th choice in the midfield and we'll be lucky to land Shaw as the only overpaid consolation player (altough I expect we'll feck that one up aswell somehow).
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Bye then.
Is this nut the first casualty of this transfer window? Or was he beaten to the title by someone else's meltdown?We'll probably end up overpaying €30m for Enzo Perez who'll turn out not to be good enough. We'll expect to sign Strootman in the Winter but As Roma will turn us down and we won't get him either. Than we'll likely go through the same shit next summer.
Fully expecting us to compleltey ruin this transfer summer and have a very frustrating season again. I'll be happy if we manage to get back into the top 4, but I'am ready to give up on the hope of ever becoming a real top team again in the near future. It is very clear the priorities of the management are not focussed on sportive success, rather on maintaining useless traditions and signing high value commercial deals (not that anything is wrong wiith the commercial deals ofc), clearly signing top players isn't very high on their list, and if it is, then clearly they haven't gotten the right people/system in charge to make it happen. This club has always been about dithering and doubting, delaying problems to the next year and we are paying the price of such kind of transfer conduct (every team and their dog overtake us in the speed of doing deals, and we're left with the scraps). Highly likely we'll go trough 2 or 3 really difficult barren years, then perhaps if the Glazers sell us after that difficult period and some new owner puts in place another management we could come back to being a top club again, that or we'll end up being our own kind of sleeping giant (that constantly fecks about and screws up the most simple things) for the next couple of decades like Liverpool have been. It is starting to become very clear the Manchester United dynasty/era has come to an abrupt end or is seriously in danger of ending (with no capable people in charge to stop it).
Fully expected the club to make a statement of intent in transfermarket as soon as the season was over, fully expected some deals to be ligned up and finalised before the world cup. But we are just completley passive and are overtaken again by all other teams in the market. Fully expect that almost none of the top players we could have signed will still be available after the world cup, we'll be lucky to end up overpaying for 2nd or 3th choice in the midfield and we'll be lucky to land Shaw as the only overpaid consolation player (altough I expect we'll feck that one up aswell somehow).
I hate this club and transfer windows
Those tweets make sense. Actually believe Arsenal should look for an upgrade on who partners Wilshere/Ramsey in CM, an upgrade on Arteta/Flamini.
3 CMs rotating isn't nearly as bad and being in all competitions they'll get plenty of game-time between them, considering injury issues also. I think they weren't content because you were going through bad times, when most people complain. Win titles again? Your squad players are happy with being that, whilst picking up the big wages.
Maybe i'm just Arse muppeting at the though of a christmas tree of
--Wilshere--Fabregas--Ramsey--
---------Ozil------Cazorla------
--------------?-----------------
I'll stick to FM for that it seems.
I said I hate the way the clubs goes trough these transfer windows, not that I hate the club...Jeez
In fact it is the complete opposite, I'am feeling utterly destroyed by these transfer feck ups because I care for this club. If I didn't care, i wouldn't be around on here and I wouldn't expressing my concerns about our transfers on here. I know we need new players, and I already see a repeat of the previous summer coming with the consequences. I had a meltdown last summer aswell, around end of July/Mid August predicting a ruined window would lead to a ruined season, I got alot of stick from posters who had the same meltdown, just a couple of months later (when they realised the deep shit we were in).
3 CMs rotating isn't nearly as bad and being in all competitions they'll get plenty of game-time between them, considering injury issues also. I think they weren't content because you were going through bad times, when most people complain. Win titles again? Your squad players are happy with being that, whilst picking up the big wages.
Maybe i'm just Arse muppeting at the though of a christmas tree of
--Wilshere--Fabregas--Ramsey--
---------Ozil------Cazorla------
--------------?-----------------
I'll stick to FM for that it seems.
I can understand why Arsenal fans want him, too good a player and due to his history with them, becomes a very lucrative target. I was talking more from a neutral POV. The thing is, neither of those 3 can play as the deeper CM meaning they'l always need someone next to them, an Arteta/Flamini. So 3 top CMs, all of whom would want to start every game fit, is too much for 1 spot. It'd be similar to our rumors about wanting Cavani, makes no sense considering our existing options even though he's obviously top class.
That team would be ripped through like tissue by any top side.3 CMs rotating isn't nearly as bad and being in all competitions they'll get plenty of game-time between them, considering injury issues also. I think they weren't content because you were going through bad times, when most people complain. Win titles again? Your squad players are happy with being that, whilst picking up the big wages.
Maybe i'm just Arse muppeting at the though of a christmas tree of
--Wilshere--Fabregas--Ramsey--
---------Ozil------Cazorla------
--------------?-----------------
I'll stick to FM for that it seems.
At least wait until September 1st and have concrete confirmation that we're not signing anyone before throwing out the toys though.
If Chelsea sign Matic and Fabregas in the space of 6m and we get nobody i will cry.
He was like this last summer. Very dramatic.
I think Ramsey and Wilsheres defensive contributions are pretty underrated. Wilshere is from the school of Scholes in tackling but otherwise he's decent defensively, whilst Ramsey is very good.
Well we have over 10ws until we need to start crying. Today isn't the d, next y will be our y.
I'm sorry if you had a meltdown over this last year, but there's more important things in life than worrying about who the team sign when there's still months to go until the market closes. Try and be optimistic
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