The media usually loves convoluted transfer domino effects where one transfer leads to another which in turn leads to another. I can't believe no one has come up with 'Koke to Barca, Cesc to Bayern, Schweinsteiger to United' yet.
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Pft. Never wanted the bastard here anyway, we have Fellaini. Like I've always said; why watch Game of Thrones on Sky Atlantic when I can watch reruns of low budget comedies on Dave.
Barcelona fans should be really pissed off that Cesc wasn't the one sold last summer instead of Thiago. Thiago would have stayed if he didn't think his path to becoming a first team regular was blocked. Now as it stands they're set to lose both.
I still haven't given up hope of us signing Fabregas. It's clear the media know f*ck all. It's amazing that these bullshit stories aren't subject to any kind of scrutiny by an editor before they're published.
I still haven't given up hope of us signing Fabregas. It's clear the media know f*ck all. It's amazing that these bullshit stories aren't subject to any kind of scrutiny by an editor before they're published.
Ian Herbert of the Independent writes that Mourinho favours Pogba and Koke over Fabregas. Also interested in Mangala.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...ba-ahead-of-barcelona-midfielder-9480992.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...ba-ahead-of-barcelona-midfielder-9480992.html
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Guardiola doesn't rate Fabregas, he won't come for him.
I am confused, did an official source form the club say that we are not pursing Cesc, because the Spanish media says we are and are in the lead. I do not see him going to Chelsea given his issues with Mourhino.
Apparently all of the "reliable" Spanish and English media are saying we aren't in for him while the unreliable Sport say we are.
Pogba? feck that, hope they sign Fabregas instead.
The fact that none of the top Prem clubs have a strong interest in him has angered and confused the English press. They're completely clueless so expect every club to be favourites at least a couple more times over the next few weeks.
Oh thank god so he's just part of the usual rubbish we've been hearing about for months. Welcome to the party Chelsea, any news on when pellegrini is getting evolved
Hello Mrs Fabregas, how's young Cesc feeling right now?
Taking off the red tinted glasses here, Chelsea would look the most attractive position here. A good salary at a team that can realistically win the premiership and compete for the CL with a world class manager. We are a team that finished seventh, in serious transition and as the current squad stands not good enough quality to make top 4 let alone compete for the premiership.
But then you've got Mourinho, who Fabregas has already criticised plenty and obviously won't be keen on playing for. Even more so after Mata's treatment.
I will love to see few new faces - but I think a lot off us here really under rating our current squad.
A bit from a latest article, from daily mirror:
Asked if the expectation had put him under increased pressure given the size of the job waiting for him in England, the former Ajax, Barcelona and Bayern Munich coach added: “No.
“You do not know Louis Van Gaal. I give myself more pressure than anyone else. I will always win.”
My point is - we have winners in our squad, we just need to pick up our confident and play with swagger and believe.. And I am sure our manager will transform his " I will always win" mentality into our squad. Ok, we are not good enough to win the league - call me silly, but even without rio and vidic or ageing evra, I still believe we can make top 4 with current squad.[/QUOTE]
People act as though Fabregas and Mourinho got in a fist fight or he fecked Cesc's girlfriend. As though they hate each other intensely.
Mourinho is known for his man management and interacting with his players. He personally calls players before signing them and convinces them to come. If they offer him a fat wage and Mourinho assures him that he'll be an important player for them then he'll probably forget about everything that was said or done in the past. He's a professional and an adult not a child.
Eto'o said some pretty damning things about them before he joined and had no issue joining.
Mourinho is known for his man management and interacting with his players. He personally calls players before signing them and convinces them to come. If they offer him a fat wage and Mourinho assures him that he'll be an important player for them then he'll probably forget about everything that was said or done in the past. He's a professional and an adult not a child.
Eto'o said some pretty damning things about them before he joined and had no issue joining.
I agree. I'd have given us the edge with Sir Alex in charge. But not any more.
Even the competition for starting isn't that big, he'd be a stonewall starter as Utd, I expect Matic-Ramires to be the big game starting pair for big away trips, but other than, rotating the 3 and getting Mikel time shouldn't be a challenge at all. God damn Chelsea. Gives them a good experienced head too considering they are losing a ton of that with Cole, Lampard, Eto'o and possibly Cech.
Lot of luck involved with who's available and whatnot, but Jose has been exceptionally shrewd with transfers and money in his first 12 months back. I'm sure that'll make up for no trophies with Roman for one year.
I don't know what Barcelona are planning though, double pivot and Neymar-Messi both free up top with two wingers-Pedro and Deulofeu?
Lot of luck involved with who's available and whatnot, but Jose has been exceptionally shrewd with transfers and money in his first 12 months back. I'm sure that'll make up for no trophies with Roman for one year.
I don't know what Barcelona are planning though, double pivot and Neymar-Messi both free up top with two wingers-Pedro and Deulofeu?
I just pray that we are in the chase for Cesc and we are winning the race
ALBERT BENAIGES, FORMER BARÇA YOUTH TEAM COACH
"Fàbregas fits into Luis Enrique's Barça"
Former Barça youth team coach, Albert Benaiges, believes Martino's time in charge at the Camp Nou meant that players likeCesc Fàbregasdid not perform to their best and that it would be a mistake to let the player leave in the summer. "With Luis Enrique, Barça will go back to being the team we know and Cesc fits into that perfectly. He can set up and score goals", he said.
Benaiges believes part of the blame for the player's below-par performance is down to 'El Tata': "He hasn't made him train in the most effective way to make him shine, but I think he has shown he can do well both here and in England. He needs a run of games. This year, the team's style of play hasn't been good for him or for anyone else".
Barça are considering selling Fábregas for financial reasons. "I don't know much about the club's financial situation. But Cesc could be a very important player for Luis Enrique, as the style of play suits him perfectly. 'El Tata's' method was not enough and did not bring out the best in him. Barça need a lot more".
Then this:
- a nice little earner for Barça
Barcelonaare rubbing their hands in anticipation. Andoni Zubizarreta might soon beclosing the dealthat will see a considerable amount of money being transferred to the club's coffers.
At last, the Catalans have in their hands a transfer from which they will have earned something. Except for Touré, all deals regarding players entering and leaving the Camp Nou these last five years have been a disaster for Barça, buying high and selling low.
Fàbregas is set on leaving the club and Mourinho wants him. Lampard's decision to play in New York next season has left a tough position to fill, and Cesc looks to be the man to do the job. Rumour has it that last week he passed Chelsea's medical tests. The player was in London and various sources assure that Chelsea chartered a private jet to whisk the player over to the English capital to pay a lightning visit.
Netting the player will not be easy for the London club, as the player's pay demands are far from what the club is prepared to offer. Cesc, who presently earns €10 million gross a season with Barcelona, is demanding that Manchester United's offer of six million net be at least equalled.
Manchester United, despite their generous offer, are not as attractive a side to play for as they used to be. The fact that they will not be taking part in the Champions League next season seriously affects their pulling power.
Read more:Cesc Fàbregas - a nice little earner for Barcelona - MARCA.com (English version)
"Fàbregas fits into Luis Enrique's Barça"
Former Barça youth team coach, Albert Benaiges, believes Martino's time in charge at the Camp Nou meant that players likeCesc Fàbregasdid not perform to their best and that it would be a mistake to let the player leave in the summer. "With Luis Enrique, Barça will go back to being the team we know and Cesc fits into that perfectly. He can set up and score goals", he said.
Benaiges believes part of the blame for the player's below-par performance is down to 'El Tata': "He hasn't made him train in the most effective way to make him shine, but I think he has shown he can do well both here and in England. He needs a run of games. This year, the team's style of play hasn't been good for him or for anyone else".
Barça are considering selling Fábregas for financial reasons. "I don't know much about the club's financial situation. But Cesc could be a very important player for Luis Enrique, as the style of play suits him perfectly. 'El Tata's' method was not enough and did not bring out the best in him. Barça need a lot more".
Then this:
- a nice little earner for Barça
Barcelonaare rubbing their hands in anticipation. Andoni Zubizarreta might soon beclosing the dealthat will see a considerable amount of money being transferred to the club's coffers.
At last, the Catalans have in their hands a transfer from which they will have earned something. Except for Touré, all deals regarding players entering and leaving the Camp Nou these last five years have been a disaster for Barça, buying high and selling low.
Fàbregas is set on leaving the club and Mourinho wants him. Lampard's decision to play in New York next season has left a tough position to fill, and Cesc looks to be the man to do the job. Rumour has it that last week he passed Chelsea's medical tests. The player was in London and various sources assure that Chelsea chartered a private jet to whisk the player over to the English capital to pay a lightning visit.
Netting the player will not be easy for the London club, as the player's pay demands are far from what the club is prepared to offer. Cesc, who presently earns €10 million gross a season with Barcelona, is demanding that Manchester United's offer of six million net be at least equalled.
Manchester United, despite their generous offer, are not as attractive a side to play for as they used to be. The fact that they will not be taking part in the Champions League next season seriously affects their pulling power.
Read more:Cesc Fàbregas - a nice little earner for Barcelona - MARCA.com (English version)
Is this serious? Brilliant.
@Sherzad, I know it's Benaiges who said that rather than you, but I don't agree with his view. Martino's style of play was perfectly suited to players like Cesc and Alexis, it was set up to get the best out of their direct players...not Iniesta or Messi. If they go back to their usual style then Cesc will find it even harder to fit in than he did this season.
To be honest I don't know much about their style off play. But I can see your point regarding direct style off play and the tika taka stuff. I just saw that article and thought share it with you all.
Going to Chelsea now
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...ress-sport-news+(Daily+Express+::+Sport+Feed)
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/foot...ress-sport-news+(Daily+Express+::+Sport+Feed)
Wasn't there more to it than just game time? I'd heard he was upset at how Barca treated Eric Abidal, amongst some other things. I thought he was simply done with Barca, regardless of playing time? But I never know how much of this sort of stuff is the truth, and how much is made up by a newspaper.
I was a bit of a muppet in the Thiago thread last summer but I don't remember that. I thought it was simply about playing time and becoming a regular started at a big European club, (not necessarily Barcelona) before the WC.
Barça would've got more for Fabregas than they would have for Thiago, so for that reason, I wish they'd sold Cesc and not Thiago. Plus, Thiago was the natural hair apparent to Xavi.
If I was a Barcelona fan I would find it a bit annoying. They'd be in a better position with Thiago right now.
The whole "Xavi's heir" thing is going to tie them in knots also.
Barça replacing Xavi is like united trying to replace Scholes.
Except Thiago gives the ball away for fun and is nothing like Xavi!
Gives the ball away for fun.
haha fair enough. I was meaning that there won't be any further news on the story until after the WC but I guess this could be one that will go down to the last day of the transfer window.
I thought Van Gaal had openly said not to pursue Fabregas?? Why is every news item still linking him to us. That ship sailed last summer, get over it. Doing my nut in now!
When? This has never been confirmed, the most anyone said is that he is not a priority
You've obviously exaggerated here, but it's not even based on any truth.
He obviously gives it away more than Xavi, yes - a large part of the reason being that he's more inclined to do a flick or go on a dribble up the field.
But this is one of those times where a laughing smiley is actually appropriate.
Its been leaked by the club that Van Gaal has asked the club not to pursue the player.....i think thats a pretty clear message.
We will not be signing Fabregas. Those hoping we do should get it out their head now.
It'd be a ridiculous move from Barcelona. Xavi can't have much if anything left in the tank, Iniesta isn't getting any younger and Fabregas is an excellent midfielder, one of the best around if utilised properly. He'll be a great buy for any team.
He won't come to United though, it'd be a pointless move from his perspective. He needs a team fighting in the Champions League and there's no guarantee we'll be there anytime soon (although I reckon we will comfortably finish in the top 4 next season).
He won't come to United though, it'd be a pointless move from his perspective. He needs a team fighting in the Champions League and there's no guarantee we'll be there anytime soon (although I reckon we will comfortably finish in the top 4 next season).
Sadly, I think the message there is more about saving face than reality. Its entirely possible Van Gaal doesn't want Fabregas, just like its entirely possible he didn't want Kroos. However, Andy Mitten says it was Kroos who turned United down and then spin was put out to try and save the club's blushes. This whole Fabregas situation smells too similar for me to believe that its United deciding we don't want Cesc, not Cesc deciding he doesn't want to go to United.
I always felt that if he came back to the Premiership, it would only be to Arsenal (especially now that they have the money to compete), but Arsenal fans I know at work are pretty certain that they neither need him nor want him. They feel he's not the area of the team they need to improve, and might actually disrupt things by fighting for a place with what is already a very effective attacking midfield unit.
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