fecking unbelievable that we're not involved.
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I got my rather shoddy knowledge of the spanish buyout from the Herreira thread last year. From what you are saying, the Martinez transfer shouldn't have been that complicated then should it?
Source? You can throw a quote in front of anyone.
its doing the rounds on twitter
Bit rough on him if the Arsenal supporters jump on his back if he joined because Wenger didn't fancy having back...
He'll end up at QPR at this rate.
I agree. If Wenger turned the chance down then you can't blame him for looking at other offers.
Transfer news in the weeks leading up to the WC is so frustrating, most players will wait till the tournament is over to move, meanwhile the press keep pumping out pages of nonsense.
I'm sure we'll inquire, after that it's all down to Cesc.
I'm sure we'll inquire, after that it's all down to Cesc.
"He's not LVG's kind of player" 
Hope that's not true or looking at the team's midfield, LVG must be a bit retarded.
Hope that's not true or looking at the team's midfield, LVG must be a bit retarded.What is the most popular Arsenal forum? I want to see if there's any kind of Fabregas related meltdown.
I do hope there's nothing to the Chelsea rumours but it would hardly be surprising. Graham Hunter will probably be spot on this time! It's going to be a frustrating summer seeing our rivals strengthen their midfields when they're already much stronger than ours. I hope van Gaal realises just how much quality we are lacking in the CM positions, one decent player won't really sort it, we need a top quality player like Kroos, Fabregas, Vidal etc. It's annoying how Chelsea seem to usually get who they want and we make a huge drama signing anyone these days.
Fake quote then.
AWIMB and goonersworld are popular with the deluded lot from Norf London
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What the feck!It'd be quite funny to see Fabregas join Arsenal, if only to see how the Arsenal fans react.
originated from a facebook account allegedly....they were talking about it on Talk Shoite
Nothing about it online before last week. It's totally fake.
So Fabregas isn't an LvG type player, but Daley Blind and Jordy Clasie are?
So 'LvG type player' just means 'Dutch'.
Bizarre logic.
So 'LvG type player' just means 'Dutch'.
Bizarre logic.
Bayern paid the buyout clause that released the player from his contract.
If its set a reasonable level it doesnt matter what the "selling club" want for the player, if the player wants to move then the prospective club just pays the money and away he goes.
They just brute forced the transfer through, paid his buyout thanks very much and just effective bypassed any need to talk to Atletico at all.
Bayern had a few months of legal complications before they could complete the Javi Martínez deal, if I remember correctly. It's very difficult (but seems to be possible?) to bypass the requirement to pay tax on top of the release clause - Real Madrid struggled with that too when buying Illarramendi as far as I know.
So yeah, you can probably 'brute force' your way through the transfer but if the selling club doesn't cooperate it's a very difficult process. I believe it also means you have no option to pay in instalments too, which is a big downside.
whatever.......am just going on what the conversation was on TS....dont get your knickers in a twist about it
Oh wow, that's just fantastic. Thank you for this!
Yeah tax issues aside, because its actually the player that has to buy the contract out, and thats where the tax implications come from, because technically he cant just act as an intermediary for £35 odd million quid.
Arsenal fans look a bit silly right now. They used to talk about cesc like he was the promised child destined to return. Every time you remind arsenal fans that cesc treated them like dirt off his boot by going on strike, refusing to train, sulking and flirting with barca in his last season, they would response with 'oh but poor little cesc just wanted to go home!' All while treating RvP like he was the anti Christ. Glad that their naivety is being exposed right now.
A lot of our fans behave the same way towards Ronaldo, the guy who agreed with Blatter when he said that footballers were like slaves to their clubs when we refused to sell him to Madrid. Fans are fans.
I know there have been strong rumours that Fabregas would go to Chelsea, but I'd still be surprised to see him go there.
Any chance Woody will swoop in and make Barca an offer they can't refuse ? I trust that LvG has a plan but it's hard to wrap my head around the fact that we're not interested in an affordable player of Fabregas' quality. I keep thinking that it's probably a rumour that LvG doesn't want him and we're actually preparing a bid.
? I trust that LvG has a plan but it's hard to wrap my head around the fact that we're not interested in an affordable player of Fabregas' quality. I keep thinking that it's probably a rumour that LvG doesn't want him and we're actually preparing a bid.It's more the case that fans are regular people. We think in terms of family and loyalty. We don't think in terms of mega money, fast cars and hareems.
It was kind of like when Eto'o said he "would rather sell groundnuts than play for Chelsea." and look what happened. Can't rule anything out here. He'll either go to Chelsea, United or Arsenal but there are too many media outlets reporting different things so I doubt we'll know for sure until after the WC.
Fixed that for you...
Except the Fabregas quote is fake.
If we were in for him, then we would definitely be keeping it quiet as Woodward can't look like a tit again. I think this ship has sailed though.Any chance Woody will swoop in and make Barca an offer they can't refuse
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