Chelsea reach agreement to sign Cesc Fábregas

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Feed Me said:
He'd count as a homegrown player for any PL team. The only way he goes to City is if Toure leaves. It's clear as day that Toure is angling for a new deal, and such is his importance to City, he'll get it.

As good as Fabregas is, if City trade Toure for him, they'll lose more than they gain.
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Completely agree.
 
Feed Me said:
He'd count as a homegrown player for any PL team. The only way he goes to City is if Toure leaves. It's clear as day that Toure is angling for a new deal, and such is his importance to City, he'll get it.

As good as Fabregas is, if City trade Toure for him, they'll lose more than they gain.
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This.

Touré brings a lot of physicality and defensive capabilities that only someone like Pogba or Vidal could match.
 
It doesn't even matter that Mourinho's at Chelsea, the fact that it's Chelsea alone will probably be enough for him to choose to go elsewhere.
 
Feed Me said:
If we land players like Fabregas and Shaw this summer, we'll be back in the Champions League, no doubt. We'll also put in a very strong PL challenge - that's the way we need to sell it to prospective signings.
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Fabregas will be here for a long time, United has a history of the older players playing an important role so even at 34 or 35 he will have a role.

We can sell it further by stating not just will we be putting in a serious title challenge this season and not just do we have a lot of money to spend so the squad will be much stronger however Louis van Gaal implemented the foundations that Barcelona and then FC Bayern were built on and we hope for him to do the same here, we hope United will become the very best team in the world and we have the manager to do it.
 
NinjaFletch said:
Then they use the mystical email thing, maybe even a good old fashioned telephone, and ask him.
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What if he's already said yes and the club are putting together a package to offer Barca and/or the player? What if the club are working on multiple deals and the go ahead of one means the other deals are stopped or slowed down?

The part in bold is more to do with the clubs negotiators than van Gaal. Why is it that it must be van Gaal slowing things down and not those higher up? If he has multiple targets for multiple positions then it is going to take more than 'yes, sign him'.
 
Sport.es claims an offer of €37m (£37m) from united. Contrary to reports in English papers, they believe Van Gaal wants Fabregas.
 
I doubt we'll get anywhere near him. He loves it too much at Barcelona and think of the time he spent trying to get out of Arsenal, why would he even want to go back to England? I bet he wouldn't even mind being a squad player at Barca
 
Mitchell Nicholas said:
Sport.es claims an offer of €37m (£37m) from united. Contrary to reports in English papers, they believe Van Gaal wants Fabregas.
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We'd be insane not to go for a top CM when we are completely desperate for a CM, I think Woody's learned his lesson and has constantly denied this one just in case it falls through but I think there's a 90% chance we're at least going for him.
 
SATA said:
I doubt we'll get anywhere near him. He loves it too much at Barcelona and think of the time he spent trying to get out of Arsenal, why would he even want to go back to England? I bet he wouldn't even mind being a squad player at Barca
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But Barça don't want him. He's got two years left on his deal so it makes sense for him to leave Barça.
 
SATA said:
I doubt we'll get anywhere near him. He loves it too much at Barcelona and think of the time he spent trying to get out of Arsenal, why would he even want to go back to England? I bet he wouldn't even mind being a squad player at Barca
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You do know that he's been routinely booed by the Barca crowd?

It's quite conceivable that he'll be happy to make a clean break after the dream failed to materialise.
 
SATA said:
I doubt we'll get anywhere near him. He loves it too much at Barcelona and think of the time he spent trying to get out of Arsenal, why would he even want to go back to England? I bet he wouldn't even mind being a squad player at Barca
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Don't know whether he loves it or not overall at Barcelona, but he definitely doesn't like being a squad player - he complained recently about not feeling like a first team player at Barcelona despite starting more than every other player bar Busquets and making more appearances than everyone! Imagine how unhappy he'd be if he actually was a squad player.
 
AltiUn said:
We'd be insane not to go for a top CM when we are completely desperate for a CM, I think Woody's learned his lesson and has constantly denied this one just in case it falls through but I think there's a 90% chance we're at least going for him.
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Sorry, should have read £30m. 30 million pounds is a more reasonable price in English money.
 
Mitchell Nicholas said:
There's no chance of Fabregas going to Chelsea to play under Mourinho. Fabregas would rather play for a manger whose team will play football.
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Isnt about the style of football but about the manager as you rightly said. No way will he play under Mourinho.
 
With City hamstrung this summer - can only spend £49m net - the solution for United is simple: offer £40m. City wouldn't go that high because their need for a top centre back is greater.
 
Think he could go to Chelsea over United largely because his girlfriend is much well adjusted to life in London and that could play a big factor in their life decisions.
 
SATA said:
Not sure if Barca want him out or not, but Xavi can't play every game next season and i think they will need him. Anything else is just paper talk really
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Fabregas isn't viewed as being the heir to Xavi. From the little I know, it'd seem they feel Arsenal bastardised his game.
 
SATA said:
Not sure if Barca want him out or not, but Xavi can't play every game next season and i think they will need him. Anything else is just paper talk really
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The fans have whistled and booed him the season. Thiago/Sergi Roberto are Xavi's long term replacements. Thiago left, I'd expect Sergi to get a real look in there next season.
 
Feed Me said:
He'd count as a homegrown player for any PL team. The only way he goes to City is if Toure leaves. It's clear as day that Toure is angling for a new deal, and such is his importance to City, he'll get it.

As good as Fabregas is, if City trade Toure for him, they'll lose more than they gain.
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No, its a much larger consideration for City given there lack of homegrown players. 6 of their homegrown players also look set to be leaving.
 
Mitchell Nicholas said:
The fans have whistled and booed him the season. Thiago/Sergi Roberto are Xavi's long term replacements. Thiago left, I'd expect Sergi to get a real look in there next season.
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Sergi Roberto won't ever be anything more than a squad player at Barcelona, he's pretty average and only there because he's a youth product. Rafinha is a bigger threat to Cesc, but he's a completely different player to Xavi and wouldn't be capable of replacing him either.
 
Feed Me said:
Fabregas isn't viewed as being the heir to Xavi. From the little I know, it'd seem they feel Arsenal bastardised his game.
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Probably, but i don't think there are too many players that can claim to being the heir to Xavi. Fabregas is a good enough player though, unless they get Pogba or someone of that like
 
SATA said:
Probably, but i don't think there are too many players that can claim to being the heir to Xavi. Fabregas is a good enough player though, unless they get Pogba or someone of that like
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I don't think Fabregas has the discipline. He's too much of a drifter to replace Xavi.
 
Feed Me said:
Granted, but they wouldn't trade Toure for Fabregas on that basis.
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No. Your right I imagine its only if Toure leaves but that doesn't seem at all impossible ATM. As good as he is, hes 31 and demanding another large contract after receiving one only last year.
 
simon_xazza said:
No. Your right I imagine its only if Toure leaves but that doesn't seem at all impossible ATM. As good as he is, hes 31 and demanding another large contract after receiving one only last year.
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He had a phenomenal season, so he's got a strong hand.

Put it like this, if City sell Toure and land Fabregas, I'll be gutted because I desperately want the latter, but it'll leave City in a weaker position overall.
 
FlawlessThaw said:
Think he could go to Chelsea over United largely because his girlfriend is much well adjusted to life in London and that could play a big factor in their life decisions.
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Well the love of London didn't stop him moving country, so why would it affect it now?
 
SATA said:
Probably, but i don't think there are too many players that can claim to being the heir to Xavi. Fabregas is a good enough player though, unless they get Pogba or someone of that like
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Too different in style.
 
Marca also has a story stating it's United vs Chelsea for Fabregas. Not saying Marca's words are to be takes as gospel.
 
SATA said:
Probably, but i don't think there are too many players that can claim to being the heir to Xavi. Fabregas is a good enough player though, unless they get Pogba or someone of that like
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Kroos looks like quite a good fit; he obviously circulates the ball extremely well, and is also very good in tight situations.
 
Is this the first muppet target to retain his crown two years on the trot? Even Sneijder wasn't this audacious.
 
This is probably the Agent of Fabregas planting false stories to get City to give his client a huge wage. De Telegraaf and all the reliable tabloids in England have said Fabregas is not a target, don't believe this story has any legs.
 
NK86 said:
Based on this one good season where their squad had nothing else to focus on but this competition? Arsenal have come close so many times only to implode towards the end because of the pressure of being in other competitions. Plus he and Wenger share a very close relationship. If he does have to chose between Arsenal and Liverpool, I am pretty sure he would go for the former.
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liverpool are a better team than arsenal if thats what you are trying to argue.

Arsenal dont implode because of pressure of competitions. They implode because they dont have the bottle. They are a weak team. teams mirror their manager and wenger is too soft. Scholes was dead right. They have to toughen up. Liverpool under rodgers are relentless. City are tough. Us under ferguson were tough as nails.
 
northbynorthwest said:
liverpool are a better team than arsenal if thats what you are trying to argue.

Arsenal dont implode because of pressure of competitions. They implode because they dont have the bottle. They are a weak team. teams mirror their manager and wenger is too soft. Scholes was dead right. They have to toughen up. Liverpool under rodgers are relentless. City are tough. Us under ferguson were tough as nails.
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Liverpool had a similar season a few years back and then they collapsed the following season. You are getting way ahead of yourself because of them having one really good season in almost 5 years.
 
NK86 said:
Liverpool had a similar season a few years back and then they collapsed the following season. You are getting way ahead of yourself because of them having one really good season in almost 5 years.
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Liverpool aren't really as good as Arsenal either, take out Ozil and Suarez from the equation and it's painful to see how far ahead Arsenal would be.
 
northbynorthwest said:
liverpool are a better team than arsenal if thats what you are trying to argue.

Arsenal dont implode because of pressure of competitions. They implode because they dont have the bottle. They are a weak team. teams mirror their manager and wenger is too soft. Scholes was dead right. They have to toughen up. Liverpool under rodgers are relentless. City are tough. Us under ferguson were tough as nails.
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It has nothing to do with bottle, Arsenal haven't won because they have not been quite good enough. However they look a stronger squad than they certainly have in the previous couple of years and they could win it if they add a quality striker, a more defensively minded midfielder and a replacement for Sagna. They're way ahead of us and I'd predict that they'll be very close to City and Chelsea if they get it right this summer and ahead of Liverpool, Spurs and us.
 
AltiUn said:
Liverpool aren't really as good as Arsenal either, take out Ozil and Suarez from the equation and it's painful to see how far ahead Arsenal would be.
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Liverpool are on a different level altogether than Arsenal now...They hammered them 6-1 in the league or something this year and Liverpool have a touch of Mourinho about them where as Arsenal have been the same team they have been over the last 8 years maybe...a team that just about scrapes that last Champions Leaue spot every year based on putting all thier focus on getting results against teams in the bottom half of the table while often getting stuffed by teams in the Top 6....I'd have Liverpool ahead of Arse to qualify for the CL through top 4 finish next season

But what this has to do with Fabregas I don't know but look's like it's a top up between City and Arse as to where he is going
 
It would not make sense if we are not in for him. A top midfielder available for a reasonable price at his prime? Of course we are fecking interested.
 
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