Changes in Arabia

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Nothing. You don't need to be so paranoid, that everybody is trying to disagree with you. I just added a tiny bit of information for all those people who might not be familiar with the situation, which is probably the majority. They might be very confused when they hear something like "Eritrea supports Al-Shabaab".

Both countries had difficult colonial history and were somewhat ruled by the same regime till Eritrea got its independence in 1993 (after 30 years of civil war between an rebel alliance (incl. both parts) against the central government). They had historical boarder disputes that go back over 100 years, which were never settled so. These boarder conflicts in combination with economic disputes resulted in a two year war (1998-2000), that was never fully resolved.
The peace is fragile at best.
 
Nothing. You don't need to be so paranoid, that everybody is trying to disagree with you.
There is nothing wrong with disagreements and there is nothing to be "afraid about". Disagreements is why you basically have a debate. It's difficult though to have a debate without clarity.

I just added a tiny bit of information for all those people who might not be familiar with the situation, which is probably the majority. They might be very confused when they hear something like "Eritrea supports Al-Shabaab".
Fair enough.
 
U.S. Fingerprints on Attacks Obliterating Yemen’s Economy
The Saudi-led coalition is hitting civilian targets, like factories, bridges and power stations, that critics say have no clear link to the rebels. In the rubble, the remains of American munitions have been found.
NOV. 13, 2016
The sweeping destruction of civilian infrastructure has led analysts and aid workers to conclude that hitting Yemen’s economy is part of the coalition’s strategy.

“The economic dimension of this war has become a tactic,” said Jamie McGoldrick, the United Nations’ humanitarian coordinator for Yemen. “It is all consistent — the port, the bridges, the factories. They are getting destroyed, and it is to put pressure on the politics.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/14/world/middleeast/yemen-saudi-bombing-houthis-hunger.html


Nothing new, and probably not worth posting, but just a reminder for people who still insist that they care about these kind of things.
 
:lol:

Speaking of Saudi Arabia...

Germany needs to respond to state-sponsored Salafism, experts say

Policy toward Saudi Arabia may have to change after an intelligence report found that the Saudi government directly supports fundamentalist Islamic groups in Germany.

http://www.dw.com/en/germany-needs-to-respond-to-state-sponsored-salafism-experts-say/a-36753159

Who would have thunk it... :rolleyes:


Germany launches almost 200 police raids as Islamist group linked to more than 140 Isis fighters banned

Minister says group used Quran distribution campaign to 'spread messages of hate'

Die Wahre Religion (DWR), meaning “The True Religion”, started in 2005 and claims to spread Islam in Germany “in a modern form and with the help of new media”.

The Salafist group gained prominence with a Quran distribution campaign called Lies!, meaning “Read!”, which has since spread to countries including the UK, France, Bahrain and Brazil.

But officials said the initiative was “bringing jihadi Islamists together across the nation under the pretext of preaching Islam”.

Thomas de Maiziere, the German interior minister, said: “With a translated Quran in hand, messages of hate and anti-constitutional messages are being spread, seeing young people radicalised with conspiracy theories.

“So far more than 140 young people have journeyed to Syria and Iraq to fight for terrorist groups after being involved in Lies! activities.”

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The group’s founder is Ibrahim Abou Nagie , a hate preacher previously investigated on allegations of disturbing the peace, encouraging criminal acts and incitement to murder.

The 52-year-old is currently believed to be in Malaysia preparing for the launch of Lies! latest branch in the country.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-200-police-raids-isis-fighters-a7418701.html

R.I.P. Malaysia.
 
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Speaking of Saudi Arabia...

Germany needs to respond to state-sponsored Salafism, experts say

Policy toward Saudi Arabia may have to change after an intelligence report found that the Saudi government directly supports fundamentalist Islamic groups in Germany.

http://www.dw.com/en/germany-needs-to-respond-to-state-sponsored-salafism-experts-say/a-36753159

Who would have thunk it... :rolleyes:


Germany launches almost 200 police raids as Islamist group linked to more than 140 Isis fighters banned



http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-200-police-raids-isis-fighters-a7418701.html

R.I.P. Malaysia.

There's some positive signs that the tide may be turning against this Saudi proselytising, in Europe and America at least. The governments will probably be the last act on it, but public opinion has had enough with it I reckon.
 
There's some positive signs that the tide may be turning against this Saudi proselytising, in Europe and America at least. The governments will probably be the last act on it, but public opinion has had enough with it I reckon.
Yeah, to some extent (finally), even though I don't expect serious measures yet.

The problem though they will still support them (or at least don't care) in the middle East and countries like Malaysia, Pakistan, ...etc. which is now not even covered in the news. I'm afraid once it's in the news (even if covered correctly) it will be too late and the price will be very high to save humanity in these areas. Look what's happening in Egypt now...

Bomb Hits Coptic Christian Church In Cairo, Killing At Least 25
December 11, 201610:32 AM ET

A bomb exploded during Sunday mass at a Cairo church Sunday, killing at least 25 people and wounding many more, including many women and children. The blast struck a chapel next to St. Mark's Coptic Orthodox Cathedral.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...christian-church-in-cairo-killing-at-least-25

Of course no media coverage...
 
Death toll from the 2 suicide bombers the past few days approaching 100. Large portions of the population approaching starvation. Fubar.
 
Its the beginning of the end of the saudi regime. Quote me on this in a few years time.

wow what a prophecy. long enough that no one will remember to look back and prove you wrong and vague enough that if ever the regime to be ousted even in a thousand years time people can look back and say "wow he was right you know. He did say the "beginning of the end".
 
UK government to admit that two of it's weapons were used as cluster bombs, with significant civilian death toll in Yemen.
 
wow what a prophecy. long enough that no one will remember to look back and prove you wrong and vague enough that if ever the regime to be ousted even in a thousand years time people can look back and say "wow he was right you know. He did say the "beginning of the end".
Yeah Haha damn
 
I wonder how many of those were combatants?
Do you mean of the children (underaged soldiers) or the total deaths? (Can't tell because I know too little about the militias involved.)
 
Do you mean of the children (underaged soldiers) or the total deaths? (Can't tell because I know too little about the militias involved.)

I mean child soldiers, I'm guessing it's another element of this disaster.
 
I mean child soldiers, I'm guessing it's another element of this disaster.
I remember Unicef estimating that a third of all combatants in the conflict were child soldiers, although that's probably out of date info by now.

But then there's the element of the Saudi's targeting schools to take into consideration as well.

We won't have any concrete numbers until there's a proper investigation into this sorry mess.
 
Since the passing away of King Abdullah Saudi Arabia has undergone massive changes, and it looks like they're only getting started.

The ill advised war against the Houthis in Yemen has taken away the spotlight from the changes within the kingdom. What was supposed to be a 2 month campaign, crippling Iran's influence in the region is still dragging on, with no end in sight. A satisfactory outcome for KSA increasingly unlikely.

Behind it all is Mohammad bin Salman, son of King Salman, Deputy Crown Prince, Deputy Prime Minister, Minister of Defence, and the man tasked with restructuring Saudi Arabia.

His rise from Royal outcast (banned by the late King Abdullah from entering government and state buildings), to de facto ruler is discussed in this article, which though a little old, is still relevant and makes for an interesting and insightful read.

There also seems to be a rise in xenophobia and populism. The trend, probably triggered by the austerity measures, seems to be encouraged by the state and official media. The 2020 and 2030 plans, which propose, among other things, singling out foreign residents and visitors, including pilgrims with numerous taxes and steep fees as part of the shift to non-oil sources of revenue.

What happens in Saudi Arabia, and whether these plans bear fruit is yet to be seen, but either way a major transformation seems to be on the cards.
 
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...men-turned-into-chaos/?utm_term=.5feb8495729d

Do we believe they gathered the important intel and that all casualties were fighters?

I'm assuming you're talking about the Yemenis killed. In that case
Mr. Obama embraced a disputed method for counting civilian casualties that did little to box him in. It in effect counts all military-age males in a strike zone as combatants, according to several administration officials, unless there is explicit intelligence posthumously proving them innocent.
 
U.N. experts warn Saudi-led coalition allies over war crimes in Yemen
"In eight of the 10 investigations, the panel found no evidence that the air strikes had targeted legitimate military objectives," the experts wrote in a 63-page report presented to the Security Council on Friday."

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-yemen-security-un-idUSKBN15D0SB


Yemen conflict: Saudi-led coalition targeting civilians, UN says
The Saudi-led coalition fighting the Houthi rebel movement in Yemen has targeted civilians with air strikes in a "widespread and systematic" manner, a leaked UN report says.

The UN panel of experts said civilians were also being deliberately starved as a war tactic over the past nine months.
"Not a single humanitarian pause to alleviate the suffering of the Yemeni people has been fully observed by any Yemeni party or by the coalition," the report says.
They also found that civilians fleeing coalition air strikes had been chased and shot at by helicopters.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-35423282


"Are you incapable of shame??"
 
Where is the international outrage? We sure had a lot of it to spare for Assad.
 
I'm assuming you're talking about the Yemenis killed. In that case
Disgusting. You can laugh and mock likes of Greenwalk all you like for pointing such stuff out and in effect "supporting" Trump but US action/inaction over SA bombing Yemen deserves more outrage than the entry ban.
 
Where is the international outrage? We sure had a lot of it to spare for Assad.

We are living in a world where a politician, who thought that the death of 500.000 children was "worth it" is seen as paragon of virtue because she opposes a travel ban. And thats on the political side, that at least pretends to care about humanitarian concerns. We are much more tribal than we want to admit. Our thinking and our identity is radically shaped by certain ideas (nationalism, religion, political identity), that force us to apply double standards for different groups of people. Thinking in these categories is so normal for us, that it is almost impossible to even contemplate dropping them.
 
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