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2mufc0 said:
You're right the Iranians are just as bad, just a certain poster likes to absolve his side of any blame. One needs to ask how did Shia militias from Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon and Iranian guards ended up fighting for Assad on sectarian grounds.

Also the first suicide bombers started with Iranian shias, let's not pretend they aren't as ideological extremely as the some of the Sunni movements.
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My 'side' are the Kurds mate, and I don't care about religion and even if I did I'd surely back the predominant sect of my ethnic group - ie the Sunnis. Just saying how it is, Iranian-backed Shia groups aren't as extreme as their Sunni counterparts. They're not the one beheading kids, burning Christians and carrying out terrorist attacks all over Europe and North America. And you mention Pakistan and Afghanistan - where extremist sunni groups are constantly terrorising the Shia minority in those countries.

Personally both sects are theological nonsense to me, but to say the Shia factions are just as bad as the Sunni terror groups is sectarian delusion, so you'd do well to heed your own advice of not absolving your side of any blame.
 
Kaos said:
My 'side' are the Kurds mate, and I don't care about religion and even if I did I'd surely back the predominant sect of my ethnic group - ie the Sunnis. Just saying how it is, Iranian-backed Shia groups aren't as extreme as their Sunni counterparts. They're not the one beheading kids, burning Christians and carrying out terrorist attacks all over Europe and North America. And you mention Pakistan and Afghanistan - where extremist sunni groups are constantly terrorising the Shia minority in those countries.

Personally both sects are theological nonsense to me, but to say the Shia factions are just as bad as the Sunni terror groups is sectarian delusion, so you'd do well to heed your own advice of not absolving your side of any blame.
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I've a feeling he wasn't talking about you
 
Kaos said:
Nope.

Iran certainly funds Lebanese and Iraqi militia, but compared to Al Nusra, Al Qaeda and perhaps even ISIS, ie the darlings of the Gulf Arab states, its no comparison.

The biggest cancer in the region and perhaps the world is Wahabism, which serves as the ideological backbone to groups such as ISIS and AQ, guess which country is the beating heart of Wahabism?
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What about Quatar? They kind of fly under the radar.
 
Kaos said:
My 'side' are the Kurds mate, and I don't care about religion and even if I did I'd surely back the predominant sect of my ethnic group - ie the Sunnis. Just saying how it is, Iranian-backed Shia groups aren't as extreme as their Sunni counterparts. They're not the one beheading kids, burning Christians and carrying out terrorist attacks all over Europe and North America. And you mention Pakistan and Afghanistan - where extremist sunni groups are constantly terrorising the Shia minority in those countries.

Personally both sects are theological nonsense to me, but to say the Shia factions are just as bad as the Sunni terror groups is sectarian delusion, so you'd do well to heed your own advice of not absolving your side of any blame.
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I haven't absolved anyone of any blame that's your speciality.
 
Kaos said:
This is a thread about Saudi's war crimes in Yemen and you come in spouting off about Iranians and Shia :lol:
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Ermm cos you were talking about Iran and Shias...
 
2mufc0 said:
Ermm cos you were talking about Iran and Shias...
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Yeah, the discussion was debating whether they were the same as Wahabi-linked terror, and you come in with your weird Shia trivia, previously never having said anything about Saudi crimes or Wahabi-sponsored terrorism. But carry on.
 
Kaos said:
Yeah, the discussion was debating whether they were the same as Wahabi-linked terror, and you come in with your weird Shia trivia, previously never having said anything about Saudi crimes or Wahabi-sponsored terrorism. But carry on.
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Why should you go unchallenged for spouting nonsense? I have previously spoke about all sorts of terrorism you can search through my posts. I'm anti injustice whether it's the Saudis, Assad, Russia , America , Iran or any other terror group.

And I maintain there are extreme Shia groups just as bad as Isis just look at khomeini who built shrines honoring child suicide bombers or the use of chemical weapons by assad and his cronies these are terrible crimes too.
 
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Quite graphic.






http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-37598413

At least 82 people have been killed and more than 500 injured in a strike on a funeral gathering in the Yemeni capital, Sanaa, rebel officials say.

The Houthi-run government said the hall had been hit by an air strike carried out by the Saudi-led coalition backing the internationally-recognised government of Yemen.

The coalition has denied carrying out a strike, suggesting "other causes".

Thousands of civilians have been killed since the war began in 2014.

The attack targeted the funeral of the father of Houthi-appointed Interior Minister Galal al-Rawishan, an ally of the rebels and of former President Ali Abdullah Saleh.

One rescuer, Murad Tawfiq, described the scene as a "lake of blood", the Associated Press news agency reports.

Graphic photos circulating on social media show charred and mutilated bodies.
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Disgusting, but like Syria nobody cares enough to do anything.
 
What a mess in Yemen and what strange bedfellows on both sides. Helping sides that they were once opposed to. Obvious arming of both sides by outside powers. Nobody at all seems that interested in any sort of long lasting peace.
 
FECK SAUDI ARABIA AND FECK THE US!
This is why they have no credibility over the horror in Syria.
 
berbatrick said:
I would guess Iran and thus, indirectly, Russia...probably?
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not really. There might be some low-level support and a couple of shipments of weapons, but that is really nothing compared what we see on the other side or in Syria. There is very little evidence for significant Iranian involvement. It certainly helps the Saudi's that they have a naval blockade and all neighbours are their allies...
 
I have a friend in Yemen, we were in uni together. I've not heard from him in over a year. No Facebook, whatsapp, twitter. No nothig
 
Adisa said:
I have a friend in Yemen, we were in uni together. I've not heard from him in over a year. No Facebook, whatsapp, twitter. No nothig
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I'd imagine internet connectivity has been poor to non-existent there over the past year.
 
Adisa said:
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Interesting article. Alternatively given what the say about the Houthi's military capability to hit the one base via artillery or long range missile attack can we put to bed any pretense that the Houthi's are NOT receiving outside military aid. Probably not, but it should give anyone pause to wonder.

As I said in an earlier post, too many outside influences doing TOO much to help their side.
 
JustAFan said:
Interesting article. Alternatively given what the say about the Houthi's military capability to hit the one base via artillery or long range missile attack can we put to bed any pretense that the Houthi's are NOT receiving outside military aid. Probably not, but it should give anyone pause to wonder.

As I said in an earlier post, too many outside influences doing TOO much to help their side.
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I think it's a well known given now they're being armed by the Iranians.
 
Nick 0208 Ldn said:
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Those human rights pretenders... :rolleyes:

They're even immune to breaking UN sanctions...

Evidence of construction

In the past year the U.N. monitors collected evidence, including the construction of a new military base at Assab airport and a new seaport next to it, indicating “there may have been external support for infrastructure development that could benefit the Eritrean military.”

The monitors said they have also documented the presence in Eritrea “whether for training or transit, of armed personnel and related military and naval equipment of various member states other than Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates.”

The U.N. sanctions monitors determined the current terms of the U.N. arms embargo do not allow for such activities and recommended that the Security Council provide advice to U.N. states on compliance with the embargo.
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By the way, the Eritrean military is sanctioned for, you guessed it, supporting Al-Shabaab organisation (an Al-Qaeda branch in Somalia).

http://www.voanews.com/a/saudis-uae-likely-violating-arms-embargo-in-eritrea/3581759.html
 
Surely there's a Cafe Eritrea expert lurking somewhere...
 
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