Changes in Arabia

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Care to enlighten me, because I've no idea what you're implying here?
It's not important. Don't want to derail the thread by a pointless side discussion.

I have not said that.
True, others did, and I thought that's what you were implying. Anyway, my reaction is still far more muted than yours, and I would seriously welcome any real signal of change in Saudi Arabia, or any real step in the right direction.
 
Saudi Arabia: Official Hate Speech Targets Minorities
September 26, 2017 12:00AM EDT

https://www.hrw.org/news/2017/09/26/saudi-arabia-official-hate-speech-targets-minorities

A 62-page report published yesterday about the incitement of hatred by the Saudi government and its branches. The last line also makes it clear why they can afford to continue with those actions..

“Despite Saudi Arabia’s poor record on religious freedom, the US has shielded Saudi Arabia from possible sanctions under US law,” Whitson said. “The US government should apply its own laws to hold its Saudi ally accountable.”
 
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First of all, I know, not sometimes, always for people like Raoul, 2mufc0 and even you lately (for different reasons)...

Second, not for myself, Saudi Arabia has no direct effect on myself personally apart from me being part of the world that is being destroyed by the Saudi sponsored global terrorism.

I don't expect you to change your opinion, I'm simply giving my opinion about the big picture (which is actively being hidden), and what's the real aim of all this. You can disagree with me, and say "no this is great news, Saudi Arabia is changing! They're moving in the right direction!". However the harsh reality is very different, and there are many ways through which you can see which direction in reality Saudi Arabia is going.


What I really know is why you posted this within minutes, but completely ignored (just like the rest of the US media) the other report (which is far more serious and alarming and a giant step in the wrong direction). :)

And just pretend if Putin did something positive, ... You know the rest.

Global terrorism is financed and sponsored by diverse International players.

I don't think everything has been implemented to put an end to terrorism...
 
'The kingdom of Sun and Youth' :lol:

I guess factually not incorrect but I think the words of sun and youth probably conjure a rather different image in most peoples' eyes than what is on offer in Saudi.
 
According to MbS, Saudi-style Islam was perfectly 'moderate' pre-1979:

 
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