Dortmund are the kind of team that have caused us problems over the years. I.e. good at pressing. Think Barca 09,11 and Bilbao last year.
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Dortmund are the kind of team that have caused us problems over the years. I.e. good at pressing. Think Barca 09,11 and Bilbao last year.
Unjust? 1 shot on target says otherwise. Handball, maybe...unjust, fecking no way.
Ambrosini was boss. He just cut everything out.
Ambrosini was boss. He just cut everything out.
A picture of a ball hitting a guy in face proves Milan's 2-0 win was unjust
Yes! It was deliberate face to ball.
foul and red card for the Milan player
It'd be a very close game I reckon, and it'd be stupid to assume that we'd win. The fact that they're not as strong as Bayern says very little - not sure any team is this season!
Well to be fair it was a definite hand ball and the goal shouldn't have stood but there's nothing unjust about the result. Barca did not deserve anything from the match and they created nothing.
We have at least a 50-50 chance against any of the remaining teams.
Barca is the one that had our number.
Barca is the one that had our number.
Bayern are still being overrated IMO. Arsenal were absolutely wank and I'd say that when we visit them at the Emirates, we'll do a very similar job.
I think over two legs we could beat them.
What? On Swedish tv they have look at it from about 10 different angles and still don't know if it was face or arm. How can you say definite?
Even if it was, it was not a foul, the shot was a cannon that flicked off a Barca player about 1.5 yards away from him.
You think? They have to start playing sooner or later.I hope it's not against us
Why are you assuming that people's opinion on Bayern is purely based on that game?
Anyway, what about the handball wrongly given when the Milan player chested the ball down perfectly, while in a really promising position?
Yeah, i am sure facing Diouf and RVP/Rooney is the same.
Anyone watched them away to Borisov ?
Same thing happened with Yaya Toure v Inter for Barca and Barca scored yet the ref gave a foul so they'll be feeling aggrieved one way or another.
With his arms in that position, it's a foul. That's how the rules are interpreted by any competent referee, if he sees it.
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I'm not assuming anything, I just think that they aren't as invincible as people are making out. Arsenal could have easily pulled it back to 2-2 if Giroud wasn't such an awful striker.
Borisov was a complete off-game for Bayern. The Bundesliga is much better than you are giving it credit.
Oxymoron ( not you I mean the phrase)
You got to be absolutely crazy to think Bayern are overrated this year. In my opinion they have the 3rd best midfield in the world, behind the obvious Barca and Madrid.
Gomez
Ribery-------Kroos------Robben
Schweinsteiger------Martinez
Ribery-------Kroos------Robben
Schweinsteiger------Martinez
I don't know about you but I would be really scared to go up against that attack. I won't be surprised if they won the Champions League this year. If Barca are out, then I think they MUST be the favorites.
Robben and Gomez are benched these days, which just goes to show their impressive strength in depth in attacking areas.
it's better than madrid. kroos outplayed ozil last year head to head. schweini, martinez, alaba, anyone else they throw in there is better depth than madrid.
in form, i think juve are better too with vidal, marchisio, and pirlo. bayern overall is stronger, yes.
I'd like to see juve draw bayern in the next round.
Bayern is criminally underrated. They are a top 3 team and have a good chance to win the CL
Robben hardly plays actually and they have a better midfield than Madrid for sure. I mean, they also proved that last season when their midfield was much better when they came up against Madrid.
Just because I think that they're being overrated doesn't mean that I don't rate them very highly! I just don't understand the 'invincible' vibe that some are dishing out.
Want to mention what's behind that ? And didn't we go up against most of those players in 2010 ?
It would be 50-50 us vs them. Actually i was less confident before the first tie against Madrid, than i would have been facing them.
Not a single person has branded them anything like invincible. But you're fooling yourself if you don't rate them as one of the top teams in the World, they are superb.
Their defence is excellent.
Lahm, Boateng, Dante, Alaba.
He's also wrong by putting Robben and Gomez in the team, Muller plays over Robben and Mandzukic plays instead of Gomez.
And we didn't go up against a midfield that includes Martinez and Kroos.
Really? We went up against an in form Kroos and Martinez? Plus you talk like we beat them last time? We still lost right? Their midfield and defense is better this season than from three years ago.
It's up there with like Serie A in terms of overall quality. Probably slightly below.
Yeah, the top 2/3 teams are good and can be good on their day but below 10 their is lack of quality sometimes. Especially in terms of quality strikers.
I said that I rate them very highly, but I think that they're being overrated purely on their league form. Yeah, they have an excellent record in terms of conceding and scoring in the Bundesliga, but Arsenal could have scored two against them last night. This is an Arsenal side that couldn't even score at home to Blackburn.
Compared to the Premier League that is full of quality strikers?
Is that seriously your argument? That they COULD have scored more?
Arsenal got an extremely lucky break with a corner that was never a corner followed up with a massive keeper error on that resulting corner. No-one can deny that Bayern fully deserved their 2 goal win.
I think Bayern being the best team in Europe last season and getting royally fecked by Chelsea has just as much to do with how highly rated they are, especially considering how much they have improved on last season.
If we start talking about what could have, would have and should have been, then nothing would be the same in football.
I think he's just jesting about your argument, I mean, it's kinda like saying:
"Barcelona aren't that good, I mean, they managed just one shot on target vs. the 3rd best team in Italy."
I have a good feeling Barca and Madrid are becoming weaker and weaker.... Fuents legacy ending?
Yeah, we lost thanks to a sending off and then good finishing by them/poor by us. But it was a 50-50 tie.
And we didn't have RVP then. Rafael was inexperienced and Neville was on his last legs plus we were playing Gibson in midfield and Park.
While they had Van Bommel playing well, and a in form Demichelis and Badstuber at the back.
Arsenal won the midfield battle yesterday, btw. Their defence and lack of quality striker let them down.