Champions League Quarter Finals | Chelsea vs Real (Tue) | Bayern vs City (Wed)

Milan are ridiculously underrated because of their style of play. It's not a case of "we're better than Milan" because on paper and with the eye test, Napoli were superior. This Napoli team cakewalked everyone this season. Except us. Even in the firts half of the season when they beat us, we were the better team.

Milan just employs a style that IMPROVES us v better opponents that attack. We are excellent at soaking up pressure/stalling attacks and then hitting on the counter.

But it's borderline gross how bad we are v low-pressing "bottom" clubs. Hence our table position.
 
Zoo said:
Why was Kvara taking the penalty when he has already missed 2 in the CL this season?
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And having a bad game. Looked inevitable he was going to miss.

Napoli gone off the boil at just the wrong time in the season.
 
giorno said:
Oh yeah. Old man Inter, rest of imnediate family milan, one grandpa madridista, i kind took after him and i dunno, i was always a bit of a contrarian as a kid :lol: fascinated by the club with the history of european cup success, and currently(as at the time) getting screwed out of league titles in tenerife :D
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:lol: that's impressive, fair fecks. My old man was a United fan but grandad is a City fan - can safely say I'm glad I didn't go down that route!
 
Would be brilliant if AC Milan shithoused a 1-0 over City in the final. Proper CL heritage.
 
I think we will win tonight but definitely go out.
A 3 goals deficit is just too much against City in their current form.
 
I understand people might find non really exciting to see one of Milan/Inter/Benfica in the UCL final and it's clear the QF/SF draw helped a lot but I don't see any other top club that deserve to be in the Quarter-final more than Benfica, Milan, Inter and Napoli. I mean:

- Liverpool finished behind Napoli in the group stage
- PSG ended 2nd, behind Benfica
- Barcelona knocked out by Inter
- Tottenham were eliminated by AC Milan
- Atletico dead last in their group..

Then the fact Manchester City, Bayern and Real Madrid have been put in the same bracket helped without any doubt as I wrote.. But, this season, except for those three, all the "top" clubs were pretty bad.
 
We don’t want a super league as it will keep the elite the elite.

Okay how about one of 4 unfancied sides making the final?

No we want the elite teams to win.
 
Lay said:
We don’t want a super league as it will keep the elite the elite.

Okay how about one of 4 unfancied sides making the final?

No we want the elite teams to win.
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Football fan "logic".

I actually wish they didn't seed the last 16. Create more scenarios where a minnow has a possible path to the final.
 
Lay said:
We don’t want a super league as it will keep the elite the elite.

Okay how about one of 4 unfancied sides making the final?

No we want the elite teams to win.
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Huh? People on here just wanted a top side in the other half to City to stop them winning it?
 
The games last night weren't a great advert for more under a super league.
 
I mean Milan and possibly Inter tonight aren't exactly minnows, or not elite of the elite of european clubs....

Even Benfica aren't some outsider exactly
 
We don’t want a super league as it will keep the elite the elite.

Okay how about one of 4 unfancied sides making the final?

No we want the elite teams to win.
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All we're asking for is a team that plays better than peak Barcelona but has the budget of APOEL Nicosia.
 
I really don’t like how this years CL final is going. Inter and Ac aren’t exactly the best teams in Europe right now. None of them are top of the league for a starters. Yes I get AC beat Napoli who are top of their league but anything can happen in knockout games. It’s really down to Madrid to knock City out. If city go to the final then they’re scoring 4+ past the Milan teams.
 
City vs. Real is the actual final, let's be honest. The final probably won't be worth watching this season.
 
Zen said:
I mean, I don't know... but I think the French is on par with it, if not better. It's absolutely circumstantial that you have 2 sides in the semis and guaranteed one in the final. Benfica beat Juve twice but then not Inter(probably) - who lost to Juve, twice this season.

It's a bit crazy Seria A now as a league. But yeah. You'll tell me Milan easily dealt with Spurs. But if you took the top 4 of each league from the top 5 leagues for a league of 20. I don't think Italy's 4 would be conclusively high. I don't really know, but I'd generally fancy a lot of the Prem against either of the Milan sides for instance, regardless of the Spurs result.
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based on what?
champions league quarter-finals : 3 Italian 0 French
Europa League quarter-finals : 2 Italian 0 French
Conference quarter-finals : 1 Italian - 1 French

if you take the top 10 of Ligue 1 vs the top 10 of Serie A. Not only would the French hardly win a match, they would probably be decisively destroyed
 
DJ_21 said:
I really don’t like how this years CL final is going. Inter and Ac aren’t exactly the best teams in Europe right now. None of them are top of the league for a starters.
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outta curiosity... how many times do you think Milan was "atop of the league" when they were dominating in Europe?
No, we're not that club anymore (at least right now) but since when was "top of the league" the beanchmark?
 
It's going to be a real one sided final to watch whether it be madrid or city in final
 
Red&Black said:
outta curiosity... how many times do you think Milan was "atop of the league" when they were dominating in Europe?
No, we're not that club anymore (at least right now) but since when was "top of the league" the beanchmark?
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You just don’t strike me as one of the top teams in Europe. Madrid and city are miles ahead and I’d even say the likes of Bayern are despite getting beat of city. Anything can happen though in a knockout fixture.
 
City vs Madrid is the final.

I'd expect us to comfortably beat either of the Italian sides or Benfica.
 
DJ_21 said:
You just don’t strike me as one of the top teams in Europe. Madrid and city are miles ahead and I’d even say the likes of Bayern are despite getting beat of city. Anything can happen though in a knockout fixture.
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we're not at their level. Bayern, Madrid and City are in a different stratosphere.

It doesn't mean we aren't good. Or that we can't beat any of them in a one-off/knockout comp. Or that the final "will suck". Tottenham beat City, didn't they? And that same Tottenham almost went without a shot on target over 2 legs against us.

Point is, there are clubs on different levels, but sometimes that makes for a brilliant watch. We've all seen countless "monsters" go head to head and left completely disappointed, no?
 
What is all this top of the league nonsense? CL and league are two different competitions. Or maybe UEFA should just decide to let awesome and unbeatable top of the league Arsenal and Barca play each other in the CL semi. That would be so deserved as one didn’t qualify in a group from which „not top of the league“ Inter progressed and the other hasn’t even been in the CL for ages.
Also Bayern v City was supposed to be a „top“ duel, same with City (Bayern) v Madrid.

Yes Milan/Inter are weaker than Madrid/City, but so is literally every other team in Europe. All teams who are in the semi absolutely belong there.
 
united_99 said:
What is all this top of the league nonsense? CL and league are two different competitions. Or maybe UEFA should just decide to let awesome and unbeatable top of the league Arsenal and Barca play each other in the CL semi. That would be so deserved as one didn’t qualify in a group from which „not top of the league“ Inter progressed and the other hasn’t even been in the CL for ages.
Also Bayern v City was supposed to be a „top“ duel, same with City (Bayern) v Madrid.

Yes Milan/Inter are weaker than Madrid/City, but so is literally every other team in Europe. All teams who are in the semi absolutely belong there.
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It's pretty undeniable that Milan and inter benefited hugely from being in one of the weakest half's of a knockout draw there's ever been

Milan, inter, napoli, benfica, Porto, Tottenham, brugge, frankfurt

The other side of the draw having been

Madrid, Liverpool, City, Chelsea, Dortmund, psg, leipzig and bayern. You'd back 5 of those sides to best any team from the other half and you'd probably give Chelsea a decent chance at it.
 
adexkola said:
Football fan "logic".

I actually wish they didn't seed the last 16. Create more scenarios where a minnow has a possible path to the final.
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And do away with country restrictions, too! What's the point of keeping Premier League teams or La Liga teams apart in the last 16?
 
jm99 said:
It's pretty undeniable that Milan and inter benefited hugely from being in one of the weakest half's of a knockout draw there's ever been

Milan, inter, napoli, benfica, Porto, Tottenham, brugge, frankfurt

The other side of the draw having been

Madrid, Liverpool, City, Chelsea, Dortmund, psg, leipzig and bayern. You'd back 5 of those sides to best any team from the other half and you'd probably give Chelsea a decent chance at it.
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I really wouldn’t. Only Madrid and City would be clear favourites. The other teams are/have been nothing special. Bayern were good in the group stage but haven’t impressed in recent months. I bet Milan/Inter would give Madrid/City a harder game than Bayern did last week. And what the hell are Chelsea even doing in your list? We are talking about the current stage of the competition and not in theory or on paper or what they did under Tuchel or Potter.
Yeah the Milan teams were lucky with the draw but then at least Inter had a very difficult group from which they progressed at the expense of Barca.
 
united_99 said:
I really wouldn’t. Only Madrid and City would be clear favourites. The other teams are/have been nothing special. Bayern were good in the group stage but haven’t impressed in recent months. I bet Milan/Inter would give Madrid/City a harder game than Bayern did last week. And what the hell are Chelsea even doing in your list? We are talking about the current stage of the competition and not in theory or on paper or what they did under Tuchel or Potter.
Yeah the Milan teams were lucky with the draw but then at least Inter had a very difficult group from which they progressed at the expense of Barca.
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I'm not really trying to say bayern or psg are on the same level as city, just that the other side of the draw was particularly weak. I'd back bayern to ease past any of those sides
 
jm99 said:
I'm not really trying to say bayern or psg are on the same level as city, just that the other side of the draw was particularly weak. I'd back bayern to ease past any of those sides
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You know, I’m fully for a Bayern & Benfica 4-0 double tonight, yet reality is pretty different from my takes, unfortunately many would say. :D
 
It's unreal how good Real Madrid is in this competition. They can have a shit season and still compete in this competition regularly like it's a non issue. It's like the Carapao Cup for them or something.
 
el3mel said:
It's unreal how good Real Madrid is in this competition. They can have a shit season and still compete in this competition regularly like it's a non issue. It's like the Carapao Cup for them or something.
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Damn it Mel. Why would you say this before they play city?
 
Not going to watch any of today's games. Good luck and have fun to the people here who are going to watch it. Tomorrow's game is the big one.
 
I really hope Ancelotti doesn't do this whole "no real DM, Camavinga as LB" thing against Manchester City.
 
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