Chain Draft (Main Thread)

Balu said:
:lol: I thought it was pretty obvious that Bergomi won't last. Surely you have a back-up plan?
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I don't. Never even stuck me till now. Always though I had options. So mistaken!

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Aldo said:
Dunno if bleezy will ever reach there but there's a particular modern CF who I think is pretty close to Romario - style wise - and would be amazing style wise.
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Yups, it's pretty dangerous though to go work your way up there and back.
 
Balu said:
Stoichkov and Laudrup won 3 league titles in a row and the European Cup before Romario joined them, they did fine without him ;). How often did all three actually start together in that one season they shared at Barca? The foreigner rule caused massive problems for them if I remember correctly. The non-Spanish defender in the team was always starting, which left Cruyff with the dilemma of choosing 2 out of these 3. In the CL Laudrup wasn't even in the squad for all the games in the second half of the season if I remember correctly.

The whole triumvirate thing is a bit of a myth. And I don't want to take anything away from them as individuals, obviously they were all fecking brilliant for Barca. But very rarely together.
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Nah, it isn't. I hear what you are saying and I know they were awesome anyway, but it was precisely that idiotic quota system that highlighted it rather than make it less relevant. When Cruyff picked any pair of them, they were great (imo any of the two with Romario was best), and Barca was great to watch... but when you did get all three together and combining it was just something else entirely. Proper edge of your seat stuff.

Mind you, I largely agreed that the non-Spanish defender had to start, he was a pivotal figure for whichever two were left having even better and more regular service.

But then, this is fantasy football and you could have all four, so stop being so German ;)
 
mazhar13: 1. P. Falcao
antohan: 1. Facchetti
MJJ (crappy): 1. Romario
Joga Bonito (Annah): 1. Didi
Stobzilla: 1. Rivaldo
diarm: 1. R. Baggio
green_smiley: 1. Nordahl
Cutch: 1. Passarella 2. Bergomi
bleezy: 1. M. Laudrup 2. Stoichkov
Sjor Bepo: 1. Gento 2. Amancio Amaro
EAP: 1. Breitner 2. K H Rummenigge
Skizzo (Pat): 1. J. Charles 2. O. Sivori
The Stain: 1. Robson 2. Giggs
berbasloth4: 1. Sir B. Charlton 2. Law
Kazi: 1. S. Mazzola 2. Luisito Suarez
Tuppet (VivaJ): 1. Van Hanegem 2. Gullit

BLOCKED PLAYERS: Puskas, Di Stefano, Edwards, Garrincha, Pele, Eusebio, Best, Beckenbauer, Gerd Müller, Cruyff, Neeskens, Zico, Platini, Boniek, Maradona, Matthäus, Baresi, Maldini, Rijkaard, van Basten, Desailly, L. Ronaldo, Redondo, Seedorf, Keane, Zidane, Thuram, Ronaldinho, C. Ronaldo, Iniesta, Xavi, Messi.

@green_smiley @Edgar Allan Pillow
 
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antohan said:
Nah, it isn't. I hear what you are saying and I know they were awesome anyway, but it was precisely that idiotic quota system that highlighted it rather than make it less relevant. When Cruyff picked any pair of them, they were great (imo any of the two with Romario was best), and Barca was great to watch... but when you did get all three together and combining it was just something else entirely. Proper edge of your seat stuff.
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Well yeah, I kinda know that. But then, the German in me decided to check the numbers and the still unpicked non-Spanish defender started all CL games and played in 35 of 38 league games (he started 27). So they basically had about 15 games together, in many of them they actually played only one half. Calling it a triumvirate is just odd.
 
The one silver lining about Bergomi going is that I was feeling sickened about one guy I had to leave out because of the decades rule.
Now that I'm back starting from scratch, I can try and figure out a route to include him!
 
Really hope that everybody gets their teams together. This draft is being the best I've seen so far in terms of entertainment value. :drool: It kind of mixes the best things all in one draft if it ends working out and it if doesn't at least we have something to tweak.
 
Is anyone free that I could bounce an idea or two off?
 
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Just to highlight and clarify a few stuff in OP:

O3 - Club link can be established only if both players have played together for the same club in a given season. Seasons need to have a minimum 15 matches by each player (mail league or champions league only(No cups). For NT card, it should be at least 1 match in any international tournament (i.e. no friendlies).
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For the link, it needs to be 15 games in the main league (Serie A, BPL, La Liga etc and/or the Champions League. No other leagues/cups).
For the 'not have played with one before previous' exclusion, the 15 games rules does not apply. Even if they have played 1 game together in main or Champions league, it becomes a invalid link.
 
Apropos some of the clarifications regarding the rules from @Edgar Allan Pillow I have decided to remove myself from this one, I simply do not have the time. 2 or 3 potential pathways have been deemed unsuitable and that is my own fault for not seeking full clarity with regards to the rules.

My spot is up for grabs, if someone wants it, either way, I won't be picking again in this one but will continue to watch.
 
Stobzilla said:
Apropos some of the clarifications regarding the rules from @Edgar Allan Pillow I have decided to remove myself from this one, I simply do not have the time. 2 or 3 potential pathways have been deemed unsuitable and that is my own fault for not seeking full clarity with regards to the rules.

My spot is up for grabs therefore, if someone wants it, either way, I won't be picking again in this one but will continue to watch.
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What?

Dude, there's other interesting prospects!
 
Balu said:
Well yeah, I kinda know that. But then, the German in me decided to check the numbers and the still unpicked non-Spanish defender started all CL games and played in 35 of 38 league games (he started 27). So they basically had about 15 games together, in many of them they actually played only one half. Calling it a triumvirate is just odd.
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The understanding between any two of them was exceptional, so yeah, they didn't need a third or to be a "triumvirate". But I would despite the success of previous years. As I said, I always preferred the pairs involving Romario, simply because they obviously had an immediate danger feel to them.

But yeah, I also said I agreed with the tactical choice, :drool:worthy as the trio was the other chap's contribution was instrumental to the entire setup, more so than the f.a.p.fest of uniting all three. Poor sod never gets any credit whatsoever though, I'm done picking him, he is like the 90s version of Nemanja without the heading.
 
I'll opt for one of the games hardest ever men, a warrior who spent 2 seasons with Baggio at Fiorentina and was a quarter of one of the all time defences at Juve:

Claudio Gentile
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mazhar13: 1. P. Falcao
antohan: 1. Facchetti
MJJ (crappy): 1. Romario
Joga Bonito (Annah): 1. Didi
Stobzilla: 1. Rivaldo
diarm: 1. R. Baggio 2. Gentile
green_smiley: 1. Nordahl 2. Schiaffino
Cutch: 1. Passarella 2. Bergomi
bleezy: 1. M. Laudrup 2. Stoichkov
Sjor Bepo: 1. Gento 2. Amancio Amaro
EAP: 1. Breitner 2. K H Rummenigge
Skizzo (Pat): 1. J. Charles 2. O. Sivori
The Stain: 1. Robson 2. Giggs
berbasloth4: 1. Sir B. Charlton 2. Law
Kazi: 1. S. Mazzola 2. Luisito Suarez
Tuppet (VivaJ): 1. Van Hanegem 2. Gullit

BLOCKED PLAYERS: Puskas, Di Stefano, Edwards, Garrincha, Pele, Eusebio, Best, Beckenbauer, Gerd Müller, Cruyff, Neeskens, Zico, Platini, Boniek, Maradona, Matthäus, Baresi, Maldini, Rijkaard, van Basten, Desailly, L. Ronaldo, Redondo, Seedorf, Keane, Zidane, Thuram, Ronaldinho, C. Ronaldo, Iniesta, Xavi, Messi.

@Stobzilla (or replacement?) I'll pick twice if that helps?
 
antohan said:
The understanding between any two of them was exceptional, so yeah, they didn't need a third or to be a "triumvirate". But I would despite the success of previous years. As I said, I always preferred the pairs involving Romario, simply because they obviously had an immediate danger feel to them.

But yeah, I also said I agreed with the tactical choice, :drool:worthy as the trio was the other chap's contribution was instrumental to the entire setup, more so than the f.a.p.fest of uniting all three. Poor sod never gets any credit whatsoever though, I'm done picking him, he is like the 90s version of Nemanja without the heading.
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I rewatched Koeman specifically not long ago and albeit his passing range being second-to-none, if we speak strictly about the range of the passes he delivered, his accuracy in doing so was erratic at times. Not because his passing wasn't great, but he had complete freedom to try 60 yard passes at will even if it meant some lead to the opponent regaining the ball. After all the talk about us needing a great passer at United I think a more accurate description is that we want a technical defender as we'd never allow someone like Koeman to try those passes.

Cruyff as a trainer is in the opposite side of the spectrum when it comes to mad Dutch extremist tacticians. :lol: I also agree about Koeman, he's just a lost case in these drafts and I've also reached a point where I wouldn't be arsed to defend him if someone picked him.
 
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