Chain Draft (Main Thread)

I had a beautiful and devious chain but I've lost faith in my second pick and have now started again. I'm not at all convinced that what I end up with will be better than my original plan.
 
Can we change the title to "The Chain Draft" or "The All Time Chain Draft"? Sexyfy it :D
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
Who's stuck?
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No one, it's bound to happen sooner or later though so it's probably best to nail down something very precise. Just "options will be offered" doesn't cut it. It won't work and leaves everyone completely in the dark.

Two key factors to decide:

1) Continent/Decade teleportation shouldn't happen, ideally it's a reset at the very same club you got stuck in (or the one before that if no reasonable options are available).

2) Whether you offer options or the manager can put forward a case for a given option he has researched and works. Of course the reset player will not be a household name or else they have to go back to the drawing board because they would get vetoed. Otherwise the fortunes of that manager are purely tied to whatever player you pull out of your arse, which is a recipe for meltdowns when you are also playing.
 
antohan said:
No one, it's bound to happen sooner or later though so it's probably best to nail down something very precise. Just "options will be offered" doesn't cut it. It won't work and leaves everyone completely in the dark.

Two key factors to decide:

1) Continent/Decade teleportation shouldn't happen, ideally it's a reset at the very same club you got stuck in (or the one before that if no reasonable options are available).

2) Whether you offer options or the manager can put forward a case for a given option he has researched and works. Of course the reset player will not be a household name or else they have to go back to the drawing board because they would get vetoed. Otherwise the fortunes of that manager are purely tied to whatever player you pull out of your arse, which is a recipe for meltdowns when you are also playing.
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I agree with this. How about letting @VivaJanuzaj decide the reset players? He offered to be AM draft master.
 
The Stain said:
I agree with this. How about letting @VivaJanuzaj decide the reset players? He offered to be AM draft master.
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Viva is Tuppet's AM. I suppose @Aldo or @Chesterlestreet can provide a neutral/fair/balanced point of view as to whether a proposed player is a reasonable alternative. Not @Balu, he is a pussy who shies away from anything even remotely controversial.

Skizzo said:
@antohan I do believe you're a bit of a fan of our next fella.
Or at least I'll tell everyone you are anyway
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I am indeed. Cnut. :mad:
 
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mazhar13: 1. P. Falcao
antohan: 1. Facchetti
MJJ: 1. Romario
Joga Bonito: 1. Didi
Stobzilla: 1. Rivaldo
diarm: 1. R. Baggio
green_smiley: 1. Nordahl
Cutch: 1. Passarella
bleezy: 1. M. Laudrup
Sjor Bepo: 1. Gento
EAP: 1. Breitner
Skizzo: 1. J. Charles
The Stain: 1. Robson 2. Giggs
berbasloth4: 1. Sir B. Charlton 2. Law
Kazi: 1. S. Mazzola 2. Luisito Suarez
Tuppet: 1. Van Hanegem 2. Gullit

BLOCKED PLAYERS: Puskas, Di Stefano, Edwards, Garrincha, Pele, Eusebio, Best, Beckenbauer, Gerd Müller, Cruyff, Neeskens, Zico, Platini, Boniek, Maradona, Matthäus, Baresi, Maldini, Rijkaard, van Basten, Desailly, L. Ronaldo, Redondo, Seedorf, Keane, Zidane, Thuram, Ronaldinho, C. Ronaldo, Iniesta, Xavi, Messi.

@Skizzo
 
mazhar13: 1. P. Falcao
antohan: 1. Facchetti
MJJ: 1. Romario
Joga Bonito: 1. Didi
Stobzilla: 1. Rivaldo
diarm: 1. R. Baggio
green_smiley: 1. Nordahl
Cutch: 1. Passarella
bleezy: 1. M. Laudrup
Sjor Bepo: 1. Gento
EAP: 1. Breitner
Skizzo: 1. J. Charles 2. O. Sivori
The Stain: 1. Robson 2. Giggs
berbasloth4: 1. Sir B. Charlton 2. Law
Kazi: 1. S. Mazzola 2. Luisito Suarez
Tuppet: 1. Van Hanegem 2. Gullit

BLOCKED PLAYERS: Puskas, Di Stefano, Edwards, Garrincha, Pele, Eusebio, Best, Beckenbauer, Gerd Müller, Cruyff, Neeskens, Zico, Platini, Boniek, Maradona, Matthäus, Baresi, Maldini, Rijkaard, van Basten, Desailly, L. Ronaldo, Redondo, Seedorf, Keane, Zidane, Thuram, Ronaldinho, C. Ronaldo, Iniesta, Xavi, Messi.

@Edgar Allan Pillow
 
mazhar13: 1. P. Falcao
antohan: 1. Facchetti
MJJ (crappy): 1. Romario
Joga Bonito (Annah): 1. Didi
Stobzilla: 1. Rivaldo
diarm: 1. R. Baggio
green_smiley: 1. Nordahl
Cutch: 1. Passarella
bleezy: 1. M. Laudrup
Sjor Bepo: 1. Gento
EAP: 1. Breitner 2. K H Rummenigge
Skizzo (Pat): 1. J. Charles 2. O. Sivori
The Stain: 1. Robson 2. Giggs
berbasloth4: 1. Sir B. Charlton 2. Law
Kazi: 1. S. Mazzola 2. Luisito Suarez
Tuppet (VivaJ): 1. Van Hanegem 2. Gullit

BLOCKED PLAYERS: Puskas, Di Stefano, Edwards, Garrincha, Pele, Eusebio, Best, Beckenbauer, Gerd Müller, Cruyff, Neeskens, Zico, Platini, Boniek, Maradona, Matthäus, Baresi, Maldini, Rijkaard, van Basten, Desailly, L. Ronaldo, Redondo, Seedorf, Keane, Zidane, Thuram, Ronaldinho, C. Ronaldo, Iniesta, Xavi, Messi.

@Šjor Bepo
 
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antohan said:
Don't talk to me about the green ripper or the skizzopaths, there I was happily contemplating who should have the honour of playing with my handsome leftback and they started circling me like hungry hyenas :mad:

It is indeed a dark lonely road. Any ideas on how to get back? Surely the reset card can't involve a spectacular jump across decades?

@Edgar Allan Pillow, what's your take on that? I gave it for granted but surely a reset in 1930s Flamengo can't teleport you back to, say, United 2005? As a rule of thumb, it would probably be best to allow a third player from the same club/era or restarting one step back? That's of course after genuinely having got stuck, clearly, nobody is getting a third pick from a 00s United side because "he is stuck". It's almost impossible actually.

FWIW, I think instead of you dishing out possible targets, the manager should be allowed to make a case for a rather underwhelming target in the same content/era that they have researched and believe allows them to get back on track.
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Didn't realise there was a reset card. Seems you can be reckless with the drafting and still come up smelling of clover. Would it not be better just to leave managers to negotiate their way out of a pickle? If they need to pick up an underwhelming player or to do so, then so be it. At least they then have to make a case for that unheralded player and it gives us somebody new to consider rather than a Mr Modern Day Mediocrity who we're all familiar with. It's also truer to the spirit of the draft.
 
Gio said:
First draft for Sivori is it? And paired with big John. Lovely stuff.
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I just searched and he seems to have had one run out before in the Decades Draft for @EDogen against Brwned. I hope we can give him a good platform here as he's well overdue a good run in one of these drafts!

Are you sitting this one out completely mate or are you an AM for someone?
 
Im in favour of scrapping reset card maybe a second national team card would be more than sufficient
 
Scrap both get out of jail cards or just leave the NATION NATION LEVEL card.
 
Pat_Mustard said:
I just searched and he seems to have had one run out before in the Decades Draft for @EDogen against Brwned. I hope we can give him a good platform here as he's well overdue a good run in one of these drafts!

Are you sitting this one out completely mate or are you an AM for someone?
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Back-seat here to enjoy the entertainment.
 
The reset card is silly..

For example I can get to my 5th player and think f##k it ill reset to get modern players.. nation card still gives you a way out or a different option at least without being to easy
 
berbasloth4 said:
The reset card is silly..

For example I can get to my 5th player and think f##k it ill reset to get modern players.. nation card still gives you a way out or a different option at least without being to easy
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Yes. It needs scraping.
 
berbasloth4 said:
The reset card is silly..

For example I can get to my 5th player and think f##k it ill reset to get modern players.. nation card still gives you a way out or a different option at least without being to easy
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crappycraperson said:
Yes. It needs scraping.
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The reset card doesn't work that way at all. See anto's threadmarked post on 'getting stuck'. If you get stuck and play the reset card, the case will be examined by a couple of other managers/neutrals (e.g. if he makes a poor pick now, but that leads back to better picks down the line etc) and if genuinely there is no proper way forward, I'll allot him a average player (who must play in Game 1). So it can't be used as a advantage tool and the manager certainly can't jump to another choice pick.
 
Breitnigge was such an obvious pick that I was hoping somebody after EAP would be evil and steal Rumminigge.
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
The reset card doesn't work that way at all. See anto's threadmarked post on 'getting stuck'. If you get stuck and play the reset card, the case will be examined by a couple of other managers/neutrals (e.g. if he makes a poor pick now, but that leads back to better picks down the line etc) and if genuinely there is no proper way forward, I'll allot him a average player (who must play in Game 1). So it can't be used as a advantage tool and the manager certainly can't jump to another choice pick.
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Can't remember seeing the 'must play in game 1' rule in the OP
 
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