I like you as a poster in the Current Events forum, but this blatant and sad wumming in this forum is ruining the image. It's just so.. silly.
Cesc Fabregas
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I like you as a poster in the Current Events forum, but this blatant and sad wumming in this forum is ruining the image. It's just so.. silly.
You haven't been proven right about Henry. Nor Messi. Nor any of your other idiotic comments, just like your ones in here. Quite simply you're just an extremely biased fool who won't ever admit to being wrong. You'll always twist your word and others to continue arguments. Hence why you're laughed at here.
Though having said this I don't disagree with your Chelsea remark there, nor would I have with any of your Arsenal-sustainabilty ones either. Though I would obviousy hope otherwise.
I was soooo right about Henry, never ever the best player in the world and I called time on his career much earlier than everyone in 2006.
As for Messi, I don't see how I can be wrong, the jury is still out on his career compared to Ronaldo's....
I was soooo right about Henry, never ever the best player in the world and I called time on his career much earlier than everyone in 2006.
As for Messi, I don't see how I can be wrong, the jury is still out on his career compared to Ronaldo's....
Erm, Henry had a pretty good career after 2006, especially as you insisted in the past that players should be judged by the trophies they win in one of Ronaldo arguments. And why would Messi still have to prove himself and Ronaldo wouldn't?
After 2006, what's Henry done? Ride on the coat-tail of Messi and co to finally get his hands on the CL trophy? Like he did Zidane to win the WC & Euro?
As for your last sentence, what are you on?
Ronaldo has had 2 seasons better than Messi, Messi has had 2 seasons better than Ronaldo. So far this season, Ronaldo has scored more goals whilst Messi plays for a more successful team...
Henry scored over 25 goals in the CL winning season from what I remember and was a very important player in that team. He definitely wasn't a passenger in that team even if he was considerably less vital to them than Messi and Eto'o.
I thought you tried to imply that jury's still out on Messi's career and it isn't on Ronaldo's.
No, I never said Messi wasn't a great player, I said that I thought Ronaldo is better.
At this stage of their career, no one can judge that conclusively, so I don't see how I could possibly be wrong.
I'm pretty sure Sagna's already taller than Neville...
Plecho, You bring up this "really nice lad off the pitch" argument every time Fabregas decides to play up.
I don't get how it's a valid defence. He may well be a nice lad, but he's a professional footballer, and we're football fans, so he should by rights, be judged on how he behaves on and around a football pitch.
Just because he might be a nice lad away from football, doesn't excuse him acting like a complete fecking cock when he isn't, and he has a recurring themse of doing exactly that both for club and country. In fact I'd struggle to think of another player with such a documented string of complete twattery.
He's a bellend.
Ronaldo has more goals by like one, and more pens and tap ins
Messi also has 14 assists
so it's fair to say Messi is having a better season
and when they met at el clasico, simply no contest
There are only two Arsenal players who would get into our squad and only one who would get into the first team every time. Nasri in the squad, and that complete and utter wankstain who this thread is named after. This is quite simply because apart from that we have better options in all areas. This coupled to the fact that we have a world class manager rather than a Voyeur (thanks Jose ) with no plan b and a humungous blind spot when it comes to recoginising the weaknesses in his squad and a face that looks like it should be peaking out from bushes on hampstead heath is why we win trophies, and you dont.
End of discussion
) with no plan b and a humungous blind spot when it comes to recoginising the weaknesses in his squad and a face that looks like it should be peaking out from bushes on hampstead heath is why we win trophies, and you dont. End of discussion
VDS
Rafael Vidic Ferdinand Evra
Song
Nani Fabregas Nasri
V.P./Rooney
If both Rooney and V.Persie were in the squad it'd be a tricky call. Rooney is "on form" less, but VP is fit far less.
Rafael Vidic Ferdinand Evra
Song
Nani Fabregas Nasri
V.P./Rooney
If both Rooney and V.Persie were in the squad it'd be a tricky call. Rooney is "on form" less, but VP is fit far less.
Oh Come on, Im one of Rooneys biggest critics but he is a million miles better than Van Persie
It's not having a go at Rooney. I think when VP is fit and on form he's one of the worlds best, it's just pretty rare he's fully fit. I'd prefer Rooney in a squad but if they were both fit...
It's so pathetic how you all follow storey's obvious WUM opinions and then repeat them. We can take storey because he's wumming and everyone knows he talks bollocks on purpose, but when other Arsenal fans take him seriously and recycle his garbage as genuine opinions it's pretty worrying.
Rafael is nothing like Johnson. Johnson gets repeatedly raped by any decent wide player he comes up against. Rafael repeatedly shuts down every wide player he comes up against. Tired old cliches that if a player is good going forward he must be poor defensively. Go actually watch him play a game instead of recycling Storey's WUM garbage.
We turned Evra into the best leftback in the world and he was less gifted than Rafael and came to us at a much older age. Rafael's exponential improvement is not in question to anyone who's spent more than 5 minutes watching him. Johnson is in his late 20's and will never learn.
Let's be honest he never will
Erm all competitions this season...
Messi - 37 goals in 32 games with 18 assists
Ronaldo - 32 goals in 34 games with 9 assists
I think it says more about the "quality" of opposition in the Spanish league when you can have two seperate players with over 30 goals at the end of fecking January.
Glorified SPL.
Glorified SPL.
Yet no other quality players are doing it, like David villa
Wishful thinking at its worst
Thats like saying you know the future, get off your high horse. Nothing is set in stone, IF sagna had vidic and ferdinand ot play with im sure he would look 100 times better then rafael.
How did this turn into Ronaldo vs Messi
Seriously. Can we try to have like a "no mentioning of Ronaldo or Messi week" on the caf and everyone who does is breaking rules and will be punished. It's ridiculous enough that a thread about Fabregas behavior turns into a Utd vs Arsenal debate but that morphs into yet another Ronaldo vs Messi! It ruins everything.
Seriously Ronaldo and Messi lovers. Give it a rest.
Seriously. Can we try to have like a "no mentioning of Ronaldo or Messi week" on the caf and everyone who does is breaking rules and will be punished. It's ridiculous enough that a thread about Fabregas behavior turns into a Utd vs Arsenal debate but that morphs into yet another Ronaldo vs Messi! It ruins everything.
Seriously Ronaldo and Messi lovers. Give it a rest.
1 FC Barcelona
Played 21
Won 19
goals scored 67
2 Real Madrid
Played 21
Won 16
goals scored 48
That kind of tells you all you need to know about the "competitiveness" of La Liga....I was probably being harsh on the SPL.
If anything Ronaldo's stats are slightly more impressive when you take the overall team performance into the equation, but then that's probably in part down to him being a selfish cnut....but basically they both score at will against mostly no mark opponents, so stat comparisons are a bit pointless.
Won't go into Messi, Ronaldo and no one else scoring as much as they do but the top team heading into the 1st week of Feb looking to win their 16th League game in a ROW in the La Liga does not speak too greatly about the quality of the league. Barcelona are brilliant no doubt but them winning 15 games back to back in the League is a joke.
Barca did it under Rijkaard in 2005/06 and nobody was saying anything :/
How did this turn into Ronaldo vs Messi
It's the caf.
Ronaldo was doing the same in the Prem :/, maybe the best comparison is what they do when they face each other when the teams meet up
It's been 7 years since I first started laughing at Cal....feck me, time flies.
You've only got 10 players...unless you were planning to play both RvP and Rooney up front together.
Ronaldo never had 32 goals at the end of January at United.
and I don't think that's a fair comparison either, since last time they met Real had about three touches of the ball.
It's just a silly argument to have. The two are miles better than any other player in the League. Why not just be happy with that?
I do think La Liga's in a pretty sorry state over all. We might not have teams on the same level as Barcelona here, but at least we have a healthy supply of teams who are competitive.
it depends on how you look at it, would the other 18 teams individually just get creamed in they were in the Prem?
It's such a load of rubbish, Fabregas is an intelligent Eurochap not a toerag like John Terry, who you wouldn't let in your house.
Rafael is massively over-rated on the Caf. It's obviously a bit harsh to call him the second coming of Johnson, but at this point in time, no-one outside of United fans would take him over Sagna.
And to say only 2 Arsenal players would get into the United squad is hilariously misguided.
And to say only 2 Arsenal players would get into the United squad is hilariously misguided.
All fans overrate their own players, if we're being honest.
Rafael is a terrific talent and seeing what he's like at 20 only makes you wonder what he'll be like in a few years when certain facets of his game have improved.
They do - but if you say Rafael is better than Sagna, you're basically calling him the best RB in the league, which is a bit steep given that he's only been playing consistently in the side for six months.
FWIW, I think he is a massive talent, and I wish we had him to provide competition to Sagna, but he's not quite there yet. There's almost no doubt he will become a top full back though, should he avoid injury.
Well, that's a lie, I know plenty.
All this Sagna is better than Rafael, Song is better than Fletcher nonsense becomes largely irrelevant when the medals are handed out in May.
It's a bit rich Arsenal fans coming on here lecturing about the merits of their team and the weaknesses in ours, their record over the last few years in all competitions against United is nothing short of shocking.
It's a bit rich Arsenal fans coming on here lecturing about the merits of their team and the weaknesses in ours, their record over the last few years in all competitions against United is nothing short of shocking.
I know an Arsenal buddie who would. He's had it up to here looking at that hair. Djourou and Song are the next ones to go. Enough is enough.
Why have United been better than Arsenal recently? Better centre-halves, better keeper are the main reasons.
Arsenal can have superior players in some positions whilst overall being a worse team. This season hasn't finished yet either - it may well still be proven we're better.
Again, I don't really care what Terry does away from football. He's a dispicable human being, but I don't have any dealings with him. I dislike him because he plays for Chelsea and because he's an arrogant cock of a footballer.
Reasons I don't like Fabregas:
- disrespectful hissy fit incolving pizza throwing after game at Old Trafford
- Getting Arteta sent off by pretending to be elbowed, and then after the game having the cheek to admit he did it AND blame the ref for issuing the red card
- Hissy fit vs Mark Hughes
- Hissy fit vs David Moyes/ref
- Allegedly telling Huddersfield player to "feck off" after being asked to swap shirts
- hissy fit following game he didn't play in (can't remember which one, but he was wearing a gay biker's jacket)
- Leading stupid celebration train round German players after Euro 2008 final, when they were trying to give tv interviews
- childish spitting incident involving him and fellow wanker Pique, during World Cup bus parade thing.
- Endless diving/cheating offences
- The "Cesc Fabregas" show
- etc.
I don't go into work and behave like a cnut all the time, and if I did, it'd make me a cnut.
Would Barcelona have 19 wins and 67 goals in 21 games, in the Premier League?
score all those goals I doubt it
win 19? well you have to remember this is argubaly the greatest Barca side of all time, who knows
That's the psychology behind it.
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