Bundesliga Confirmed Transfers

All over Twitter: Ciro Immobile to Dortmund is done.

Comes from good Italian journos.
 
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The rule changes in regards to co-ownerships could have helped to solve the problems between Juve and Torino quickly. Torino probably doesn't have the money to buy him from Juve and now that these types of co-ownerships are forbidden from 2015 onwards, it might have become important to sell him for both clubs.
 
I thought the co-ownership changes were in effect as of now? However the existing co-ownership contracts will remain functional. I may be wrong though.

As for Immobile, Di Marzio is reporting it so I'm inclined to believe it. Deal is worth €19,5m and Immobile will fly to Dortmund in the weekend to sign the contract.
 
Zorc (BVB's Director of Football) did not deny that Immobile will come but that the deal is done. Signatures are not expected before Sunday.
 
I thought the co-ownership changes were in effect as of now? However the existing co-ownership contracts will remain functional. I may be wrong though.

As for Immobile, Di Marzio is reporting it so I'm inclined to believe it. Deal is worth €19,5m and Immobile will fly to Dortmund in the weekend to sign the contract.
The bolded part is correct.
 
I'll only add Immobile when he's a confirmed Dortmund player.

The only transfer business that happened yesterday.

Update:

Daniel Davari from Eintracht Frankfurt signs for Grasshopper Club Zurich on a Free Transfer.
 
The rule changes in regards to co-ownerships could have helped to solve the problems between Juve and Torino quickly. Torino probably doesn't have the money to buy him from Juve and now that these types of co-ownerships are forbidden from 2015 onwards, it might have become important to sell him for both clubs.
They have like a year cooling off period. So it will impact transfers only next year.
 
@RedSky : Dont know if you like press about closed transfers here(say if you dont): an Argentinian paper(serious one after reports) stats that Bayern closed the deal on Ezequiel Garay from Benfica.
I can remember some reports in the German press that we watched him. 15 million euros and a 4 years contract. Dont know the player but should be an Argentinian world cup starter and is a starter in a great Benfica team.
Sounds very nice.
 
Well, I only put official signings in the topic, but I don't mind rumor discussion in here at all! Struggling to see how he'd fit in, squad player I guess.
 
Well, I only put official signings in the topic, but I don't mind rumor discussion in here at all! Struggling to see how he'd fit in, squad player I guess.

Thanks for the fast answer. Dont know. People said the same about Dante and then he was one of the best CB around in his first season with us. Could be one of those world class players who are not really on the radar.
 
Well, Immobile has said the deal with Dortmund is done. All that is left is for him to sign the contract, so this is all done now I guess. They've got a good set of strikers now with him and Ramos, both of whom offer different things upfront. Should be interesting next season.
 
Who do we think has done the best business so far? Poor Nurnberg, they seem to be losing a lot of players at the moment. Luckily they have a few decent young players coming through.

I'm just adding Immobile and Makoto Hasebe to the OP. Update in a few ticks.
 
Update:
Ciro Immobile joins Dortmund from Torino for 19.5m Euros.
Makoto Hasebe joins Eintracht Frankfurt from Nürnberg on a Free.
Lukas Raeder leaves Bayern Munich on a Free.
Mohamed Amsif joins Berlin Union from Augsburg on a Free.
Sandro Wieser joins FC Aarau from Hoffenheim on Loan.
Maurice Hirsch joins Hannover from Hoffenheim on a Free.
Viktor Maier joins Paderborn from SV Lippstadt for 50k Euros.

 
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All done. A fair bit updated. Added some fees in and added the above players. I like how Hannover has continued to raid Hoffenheims youth.
 
Stuttgart sign Adam Hlousek from Nürnberg on a four-year deal.

As for who has done the best business so far I'm not really sure. Gladbach have done very well in my opinion with signing Hahn, Traore and Sommer. Really good piece of business from them I reckon.

Wolfsburg haven't done bad either, there's talk of them being after Lukaku and if they could pull that off I'd be very impressed.
 
Who do we think has done the best business so far? Poor Nurnberg, they seem to be losing a lot of players at the moment. Luckily they have a few decent young players coming through.
Bayern and Dortmund are doing a fine job. Schalke looks really underwhelming at the moment. I dont really rate any of their new players. That said, they already have an insane amount of talent. Leverkusen situation is weird. I think they are gambling quite a bit. Consiering Hertha BSC Berlin´s situation, their transfers look solid. Frankfurt looks like they are doing a step backwards.

There are still quite a few big transfers coming.
 
Bayern hasn't been doing much of anything the last year on the transfer market. Agreements with Rode and Lewandowski were reached as soon as 18-24 months ago according to several reports in the media.

Those two deals as free-agents already make for a solid summer but they've still got work to do to call it a very good or even exceptional summer. Garay for € 15M would be a very good start though.
 
Kramer and Ginter made the German team. Even if they don't play, surely rumours and maybe bids will follow. Thoughts on either for us? Van Gaal might lean Bundesliga. I've only seen Kramer play. Looked solid defensively.
 
Kramer and Ginter made the German team. Even if they don't play, surely rumours and maybe bids will follow. Thoughts on either for us? Van Gaal might lean Bundesliga. I've only seen Kramer play. Looked solid defensively.

I read SC Freiburg was going to hold a press conference over Ginter's future today.

It is widely expected that they will announce his departure to Dortmund for a rumored transfer fee of € 10-13M.
 
BILD Stories this morning:
  • Tin Jedvaj (AS Roma) appears to be joining Leverkusen.
  • Daniel Ginczek and Adam Hlousek (Nurnberg) are joining Stuttgart.
  • Christopher Avevor is leaving Hannover to join... Berlin (I think) also mentions Dusseldorf in the article? Can someone clarify? :)
 
BILD Stories this morning:
  • Tin Jedvaj (AS Roma) appears to be joining Leverkusen.
  • Daniel Ginczek and Adam Hlousek (Nurnberg) are joining Stuttgart.
  • Christopher Avevor is leaving Hannover to join... Berlin (I think) also mentions Dusseldorf in the article? Can someone clarify? :)

The article I read talks about Union Berlin(2. divison) as a non option but Düsseldorf could be one.
Also Bild reporting about Ginters agent and his wish that his man could go to a big club before the world cup.
Should be Dortmund.
 
Marvin Ducksh joins newly promoted Paderborn on loan from Dortmund. Good deal for both parties, he`d finally be able to play on a regular basis.
 
Marvin Ducksh joins newly promoted Paderborn on loan from Dortmund. Good deal for both parties, he`d finally be able to play on a regular basis.

Link?

Certainly would be a good deal for both Clubs.
  • Tim Chandler joins Frankfurt from Nurnberg (another one bites the dust)
  • Christian Wetklo leaves Mainz and joins Movers Darmstadt
  • Philipp Müller is apparently leaving Wolfsburg youth setup to rejoin Hamburg.
I'll update the OP tomorrow morning when a few more are confirmed deals.
 
OP updated.

Confirmed transfers only added.

The below are unconfirmed and haven't been yet, but will keep an eye out.
  • Philipp Müller - Not confirmed to have joined Hamburg yet.
  • Tin Jedvaj - Leverkusen after him.
  • Daniel Ginczek - Bremen and Stuttgart after him.
  • Christopher Avevor - Has left, but club unknown.
 
I read SC Freiburg was going to hold a press conference over Ginter's future today.

It is widely expected that they will announce his departure to Dortmund for a rumored transfer fee of € 10-13M.
Dortmund are doing pretty well in the market, aren't they? Not sure if they need Ginter all that much since they already gave Sokratis, Hummels and Subotic but they've had plenty of issues with injuries at the back plus Hummels might leave sooner rather than later. If they sell Hummels and get Ginter for the reported fee they'll have probably netted a profit of around €30m which would come handy when strengthening other areas.

Let's see how Immobile does for them. He's supposed to be pretty good.
 
He could've left last summer already but BVB wanted to keep him, Bayern were throwing something around 30 mil Euro for him.


Not true. Dortmund said we didn't offer anything. Dortmund would have sold him for this amount of money. I believe we just offered something about 15-20 mil for him because he was running out of contract.
 
Dortmund are doing pretty well in the market, aren't they? Not sure if they need Ginter all that much since they already gave Sokratis, Hummels and Subotic but they've had plenty of issues with injuries at the back plus Hummels might leave sooner rather than later. If they sell Hummels and get Ginter for the reported fee they'll have probably netted a profit of around €30m which would come handy when strengthening other areas.

Let's see how Immobile does for them. He's supposed to be pretty good.

Keep in mind that Ginter would be the back-up for the injury-prone Sven Bender and Sebastian Kehl in central-defensive midfield as well so he's not just the 4th CB and heir to Mats Hummels. In general, assuming Dortmund sign Ginter for 10-13M, we'll see a net investment of almost € 50M this summer and more importantly a significant increase in squad depth. Maybe this will allow Jürgen Klopp's team to challenge Bayern for the championship next season once again.

Their two new strikers are also very interesting. Adrian Ramos is relatively close in profile to Robert Lewandowski even though he's two levels below the Pole in terms of quality. Still, the Colombian can win aerial duels just like Lewandowski and offer that kind of typical CF play which BVB often benefited from. I think he'll be important to get by in the weekly Bundesliga games, especially in games where the opponent is sitting deep and has no interest in offering Dortmund any space for their reactive, counter-attacking stile of play.

Immobile on the other hand won less than one aerial duel per match on average last season, he's a pure counter-attacking player with very good instincts, incredible work-rate and a lot of speed. However he's not that creative and physically imposing force up-front, he's also not as technical as Robert Lewandowski and supposedly needs to improve his decision making. Dortmund probably has to become a better team for him to succeed. They cannot afford another two months (especially November and December 2013) where their entire playing approach depended on Lewandowski's form who was the goalscorer and playmaker in one person.

The last 4-6 weeks of the 2013/14 season make hope for their next campaign, though certain questions remain unanswered. Will Mkhitaryan continue to play on the wing with Reus in the center (what worked out well) or will the Armenian get another go as their CAM (where he was a disappointment)? This would also drastically influence the situation of Kuba and PE-Aubameyang (both right wingers) who in my view, are not up to the highest international standards.

At the very least it's going to be another interesting season for Borussia Dortmund.
 
Not true. Dortmund said we didn't offer anything. Dortmund would have sold him for this amount of money. I believe we just offered something about 15-20 mil for him because he was running out of contract.

No I think we would have paid the price for lewandowski last season, while we made no official bid (we never do unless we're certain it's accepted), we certainly informed Watzke about our willingness to sign him for something between 25 and 30M.

However Watzke, and his later apology to Lewandowski, his new wage offer to the Pole and his admission of guilt make this clear, wanted to prove a point by stopping the transfer of Götze and Lewandowski in the same summer.

Believing the transfer failed, because of a couple of million or a lack of an official offer is naive.
 
No I think we would have paid the price for lewandowski last season, while we made no official bid (we never do unless we're certain it's accepted), we certainly informed Watzke about our willingness to sign him for something between 25 and 30M.

However Watzke, and his later apology to Lewandowski, his new wage offer to the Pole and his admission of guilt make this clear, wanted to prove a point by stopping the transfer of Götze and Lewandowski in the same summer.

Believing the transfer failed, because of a couple of million or a lack of an official offer is naive.
The situation was actually very simple: Zorc demanded a written offer by Bayern, not verbally or via a middle man, before a certain due date. Bayern didn't do this, and the case was closed.
 
The situation was actually very simple: Zorc demanded a written offer by Bayern, not verbally or via a middle man, before a certain due date. Bayern didn't do this, and the case was closed.

Come on, you should know that Watzke indirectly apologized to Lewandowski months after the fact that he couldn't let him leave to Munich that summer. Why apologize if Bayern wasn't willing to make the move happen? That makes zero sense.

The transfer failed because Watzke wanted to make a strong statement. Believing anything else is naive. After all he said this to WAZ and I quote:

"At the end of the day it was first and foremost my decision that Robert Lewandowski stayed at Borussia Dortmund"
 
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No I think we would have paid the price for lewandowski last season, while we made no official bid (we never do unless we're certain it's accepted), we certainly informed Watzke about our willingness to sign him for something between 25 and 30M.

However Watzke, and his later apology to Lewandowski, his new wage offer to the Pole and his admission of guilt make this clear, wanted to prove a point by stopping the transfer of Götze and Lewandowski in the same summer.

Believing the transfer failed, because of a couple of million or a lack of an official offer is naive.

That is your own suggestion. However the only fact is that Zorc said 'Bayern did not offer anything to us" and we (Bayern) didn't even complain about that statement.

My suggestion in there is: "Because of the situation (Lewandowski only wants to come to us and his contract is running out) we thought we can get him for a small fee (15-20m). If not we just wait to get him for free, our sqad is full anyways.
 
The drop in the overall technical skill of the team caused by Gotze and Kagawa leaving is going to hurt them untill they sort it out. With Gundogans back issues, this will only get worse. Its all good an well running with the ball at 100km an hour but you also need players who can play in tight spaces, and IMO they simply don't have enough of those.
 
Confirmed:
  1. John Heitinga joins Hertha Berlin from Fulham on a Free.
  2. Lukas Schmitz leaves Werder Bremen and joins Fortuna Dusseldorf on a Free.
  3. Philipp Hofmann has left Schalke and joins Kaiserslautern for 1m Euros.
  4. Can leaves Leverkusen to join Liverpool for 12m Euros.
Unconfirmed:
  1. Zhi Gin Lam leaving Hamburg to join Greuther Fürth for 200,000 Euros.
 
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That is your own suggestion. However the only fact is that Zorc said 'Bayern did not offer anything to us" and we (Bayern) didn't even complain about that statement.

My suggestion in there is: "Because of the situation (Lewandowski only wants to come to us and his contract is running out) we thought we can get him for a small fee (15-20m). If not we just wait to get him for free, our sqad is full anyways.

All your speculation and suggestion is relatively worthless when faced with Watzke statement that he himself stopped Lewandowski's transfer to Bayern.

Here the German version for you:

"Natürlich habe ich mich mit unserem Sportdirektor Michael Zorc und Trainer Jürgen Klopp beraten, aber letztendlich ist es vor allem meine Entscheidung gewesen, dass er beim BVB bleibt."

Not a lack of Bayern's interest, not a too low offer, not a missing written document. HIS decision alone. That's his quote and not made up by me. Zorc's statement came much earlier when they were still fighting a PR battle after the lost CL final and maybe even hoping for a Lewandowski transfer abroad. Bayern was well aware that countering Zorc's words or starting transfer negotiations with a written offer could give Dortmund more ammunition for their PR smear campaign which was going on in the wake of the Götze transfer. However I seem to recall some Rummenigge statements where he clearly emphasizes that Bayern was willing to make a sizeable offer and just wasn't willing to open transfer negotiations with a written offer in that kind of intense and toxic environment.

I can't believe this 'lack of a written offer' fairytale is still in circulation...
 
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The drop in the overall technical skill of the team caused by Gotze and Kagawa leaving is going to hurt them untill they sort it out. With Gundogans back issues, this will only get worse. Its all good an well running with the ball at 100km an hour but you also need players who can play in tight spaces, and IMO they simply don't have enough of those.
:lol: Same old, same old ... Gündogan played 56 minutes last season, he has actually been already gone.
 
All your speculation and suggestion is relatively worthless when faced with Watzke statement that he himself stopped Lewandowski's transfer to Bayern.

Here the German version for you:

"Natürlich habe ich mich mit unserem Sportdirektor Michael Zorc und Trainer Jürgen Klopp beraten, aber letztendlich ist es vor allem meine Entscheidung gewesen, dass er beim BVB bleibt."

Not a lack of Bayern's interest, not a too low offer, not a missing written document. HIS decision alone. That's his quote and not made up by me. Zorc's statement came much earlier when they were still fighting a PR battle after the lost CL final and maybe even hoping for a Lewandowski transfer abroad. Bayern was well aware that countering Zorc's words or starting transfer negotiations with a written offer could give Dortmund more ammunition for their PR smear campaign which was going on in the wake of the Götze transfer. However I seem to recall some Rummenigge statements where he clearly emphasizes that Bayern was willing to make a sizeable offer and just wasn't willing to open transfer negotiations with a written offer in that kind of intense and toxic environment.

I can't believe this 'lack of a written offer' fairytale is still in circulation...
Since Rummenigge's public response to Zorc was that Bayern in general never makes written offers, neither for Lewandowski nor for anyone else, I tend to believe that Zorc is correct. Nobody from Bayern ever rejected anything Zorc said.

Watzke is the one who decided that Lewandowski wouldn't be sold despite his Robert publicly pushing for the move. ETA: Of course Watzke wanted to make a statement, too, but this has absolutely nothing to do with having no written offer until the set dead line.
 
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