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Are the Android boxes any good for picking up beIN Sports? Thinking of going down that route rather than pay the extortionate money BT want.
 
Ridiculous how much it's costing just to be able to watch some fecking football.
 
Ridiculous how much it's costing just to be able to watch some fecking football.
Yes and no

If you get both sky and BT you can see more football than you have ever been able to in the past

It's crazy how much live footy we actually get these days.

It used to be one European game and one league game per week years ago
 
Yes and no

If you get both sky and BT you can see more football than you have ever been able to in the past

It's crazy how much live footy we actually get these days.

It used to be one European game and one league game per week years ago

Not exactly.

You get the same amount of football you had in the last 3 years. Difference? Oh yeah people only needed to pay for Sky. Not do this bullshit with two subs. This system will only work if both subs have all the rights and then say come join us, we are cheaper.

And it wasn't years ago. We been getting like minimum 3 games a week since Sky had Monday night football from 10 or more years ago. Sky had the champions league since 2004 and shown nearly every game. When ITV had sole rights they used to show games on Tuesday and Wednesday.

Yes, with everything after rights are sold there are a few extra games added on. But nobody honestly could tell me that these prices are justified.
 
But we all buy it, that's the problem, just look at the new premier league deal.

Yes because there is no competition and these stupid rules to split premier league rights were brought in for competition. I don't see how it is fair to consumer having to join two subs.

If they do my proposal where two companies buy the rights to the games then that would work better.

But we get ripped off compared to the rest of Europe due to the premier league. I've seen people in Holland get 500mpb internet, all the football packages for £35 per month.
 
Yes and no

If you get both sky and BT you can see more football than you have ever been able to in the past

It's crazy how much live footy we actually get these days.

It used to be one European game and one league game per week years ago
The number of games hasn't gone up?
 
Yes because there is no competition and these stupid rules to split premier league rights were brought in for competition. I don't see how it is fair to consumer having to join two subs.

If they do my proposal where two companies buy the rights to the games then that would work better.

But we get ripped off compared to the rest of Europe due to the premier league. I've seen people in Holland get 500mpb internet, all the football packages for £35 per month.
Exactly this.

If BT, Sky and Virgin Media all had the exact same games available as a single subscription that would be actual competition and the fans would be far better off.
 
Yes and no

If you get both sky and BT you can see more football than you have ever been able to in the past

It's crazy how much live footy we actually get these days.

It used to be one European game and one league game per week years ago

2 games a week? Bloody hell how far are you going back here Randy?
 
Yes because there is no competition and these stupid rules to split premier league rights were brought in for competition. I don't see how it is fair to consumer having to join two subs.

If they do my proposal where two companies buy the rights to the games then that would work better.

But we get ripped off compared to the rest of Europe due to the premier league. I've seen people in Holland get 500mpb internet, all the football packages for £35 per month.

I agree, as consumers in the UK we get royally spit roasted. My Virgin media bill is £112 a month for basically Sky Sports, Sky Movies, BT Sport, internet, and a phone that we don't fecking use.
 
In fairness I'm pretty happy with both sky and BT and done really begrudge paying out. I also get setanta as part of the pack so I get the Saturday 3pm games too

It is a lot of money though but for me it is worth it
 
2 games a week? Bloody hell how far are you going back here Randy?
How far back can you go?

When we won the cup winners cup in 1991, being able to watch United on ITV was a fecking luxury, my saturday afternoons were spent listening to a hazy commentary game on radio 2 whilst hoping for some moderate update as to how we were getting on, usually with ceefax on the TV, watching the pages turn ever so slowly and hoping by the time it switched back to our page it would show that we scored. On the few saturdays that we were the commentary game on BBC, there was no talking allowed in our house, but then again, back then commentators actually told you what was going on during the game.

Anyway, I actually agree that both sky and BT have us by the Travellers with the prices they charge these days, but having gone through the dark ages or radio 2 commentaries and ceefax, it makes me appreciate what we have now, by which i mean....not only can i go to old trafford regularly and even manage to treat myself to a few touted aways each season, but i also pride myself on keeping one step ahead of the authorities when it comes to streaming.

The current big thing in streaming is xbmc/kodi, Personally i don't like either and i use certain pay sites and other methods, but the point is there are options available if you are willing to put in a few hours of research and trial and error.
 
How far back can you go?

When we won the cup winners cup in 1991, being able to watch United on ITV was a fecking luxury, my saturday afternoons were spent listening to a hazy commentary game on radio 2 whilst hoping for some moderate update as to how we were getting on, usually with ceefax on the TV, watching the pages turn ever so slowly and hoping by the time it switched back to our page it would show that we scored. On the few saturdays that we were the commentary game on BBC, there was no talking allowed in our house, but then again, back then commentators actually told you what was going on during the game.

Anyway, I actually agree that both sky and BT have us by the Travellers with the prices they charge these days, but having gone through the dark ages or radio 2 commentaries and ceefax, it makes me appreciate what we have now, by which i mean....not only can i go to old trafford regularly and even manage to treat myself to a few touted aways each season, but i also pride myself on keeping one step ahead of the authorities when it comes to streaming.

The current big thing in streaming is xbmc/kodi, Personally i don't like either and i use certain pay sites and other methods, but the point is there are options available if you are willing to put in a few hours of research and trial and error.

Yeh, I'm nearly 31 years old. What I was trying to get at was that prices and how much football there is to watch now isn't really relevant to what was around 20+ years ago.
 
Just moved out of my parents. The Sky at home was in my name, so I put in 30 days to cancel Sky at home and my girlfriend signed up as a new customer for 50% off for 12 months at our new place, giving us all the channels for around £35 a month. We also signed up to BT internet which means we will get BT Sport Europe with HD for £9 a month.

Sky called me up a couple weeks ago to find out why I was cancelling the one at my parents, made me 3 different offers to keep it - ended up accepting 60% off for a year, making their package (original, movies, sport, HD) less than £25 for a year. I called up BT to tell them I wanted to cancel as there was no way my parents wanted to pay £24 for BT Sport when their whole Sky package was now roughly that price. BT then called me back offering their BT Europe HD package for £8.50 a month for 8 months and then £17 thereafter.

So in essence, all the companies are willing to do ridiculous discounts if you threaten to leave them. Just shows how much profits is in it for them! Next year I'll probably do the same for both mine & my girlfriends Sky/BT accounts and get similar discounts.
 
No fecking way am I paying for more fecking footy channels when I already fecking pay those feckers at sky an extortionate rate. Absolutely no fecking way. It can feck off.
 
Is it worth swapping to BT Broadband to get this for free? Especially with the CL this year. Problem is a couple mates don't rate their broadband highly at all.
 
You'll still have to pay £5 extra to get the extra CL channels even with BT Broadband.

I don't recommend the broadband service at all, especially at the price.
 
You'll still have to pay £5 extra to get the extra CL channels even with BT Broadband.

I don't recommend the broadband service at all, especially at the price.
Really? feck me. You wonder how they get away with it. Load of bollocks.

Guess I'm staying with AceStream then.
 
You'll still have to pay £5 extra to get the extra CL channels even with BT Broadband.

I don't recommend the broadband service at all, especially at the price.

Didn't know that. I've BT Infinity 2 with BT Sports 1/2 HD and Sky Sports 1/2/5, and I think the broadband is stunning. That being said, an extra £5 ontop of what I already pay for CL channels? Ehh...
 
Didn't know that. I've BT Infinity 2 with BT Sports 1/2 HD and Sky Sports 1/2/5, and I think the broadband is stunning. That being said, an extra £5 ontop of what I already pay for CL channels? Ehh...

I've found it to be extremely sketchy dealing with online gaming and HQ video streaming.

Had the broadband initially and couldn't get a game of FIFA without horrendous button lag which is absolutely unacceptable considering the price they charge for the regular broadband. So had no choice to upgrade to Infinity, obviously it improved a good bit but the fact that I was forced to upgrade in order to play a half-decent game of FIFA still irritates me.

I still get constant niggly problems with the fibre optic package as well i.e. the odd laggy game, NAT status being strict, buffering video streaming.

A few years ago you used to be able to play pretty much any game online with a regular 8MB broadband connection.

Basically BT, like pretty much all other ISPs, don't give a toss about the consumer.
 
I've found it to be extremely sketchy dealing with online gaming and HQ video streaming.

Had the broadband initially and couldn't get a game of FIFA without horrendous button lag which is absolutely unacceptable considering the price they charge for the regular broadband. So had no choice to upgrade to Infinity, obviously it improved a good bit but the fact that I was forced to upgrade in order to play a half-decent game of FIFA still irritates me.

I still get constant niggly problems with the fibre optic package as well i.e. the odd laggy game, NAT status being strict, buffering video streaming.

A few years ago you used to be able to play pretty much any game online with a regular 8MB broadband connection.

Basically BT, like pretty much all other ISPs, don't give a toss about the consumer.

I'm going to sound like a salesman, but as a PC gamer, I've had no issues at all with BT Infinity. My speed test results (wired) have never been below 70Mbps down/14Mbps up, and the issues you've encountered have never happened to me. Laggy game could be down to folk on the other end. Have you tried it with a game where you can visibly see your pingtime/packetloss (any Source game, basically)?
 
Does that mean that game will get the 12:45 timeslot, and all others will be 15:00/17:30?

I don't think Sky have announced theirs yet. So you can expect one 5.30 Saturday match, 2 on Sunday and a Monday night game I'm sure
 
Are the Android boxes any good for picking up beIN Sports? Thinking of going down that route rather than pay the extortionate money BT want.

Mine works fine for all footy Saturdays included. Only issue is the guy who supplied it hasn't managed to get BT Europe on there yet but has said it shouldn't be long. It costs me about £18 per month and if I didn want to renew it for a month because of no football/holiday etc I don't and then all I do is resubscribe when I want it. Plus it gets me all boxsets pretty much ever and all films including new releases.
 
Are the Android boxes any good for picking up beIN Sports? Thinking of going down that route rather than pay the extortionate money BT want.

Kodi?

I find that I can get any PL game on vdub25 add on in at least 720, sometimes 1080.

For CL games though, I can't find a reliable source.

I phoned up Virgin to cancel as I was looking around for a deal on my net, with one eye on BT as I could get their sport for free. Anyway right enough I got a call saying that I could have 100mb net, Sky and BT sports in HD, 2 boxes, landline for £75 so decided to stay. Will use the android box for Saturday 3pm games though and suffer Robbie Earle.
 
Mine works fine for all footy Saturdays included. Only issue is the guy who supplied it hasn't managed to get BT Europe on there yet but has said it shouldn't be long. It costs me about £18 per month and if I didn want to renew it for a month because of no football/holiday etc I don't and then all I do is resubscribe when I want it. Plus it gets me all boxsets pretty much ever and all films including new releases.

You tried Sports Donkey? £50 for a year. You can do a month sub then message him to go the year.
 
Mine works fine for all footy Saturdays included. Only issue is the guy who supplied it hasn't managed to get BT Europe on there yet but has said it shouldn't be long. It costs me about £18 per month and if I didn want to renew it for a month because of no football/holiday etc I don't and then all I do is resubscribe when I want it. Plus it gets me all boxsets pretty much ever and all films including new releases.
how do these android boxes work then? you pay for the box then still subscribe monthly? Really considering one
 
Weren't we the first weekend Saturday lunchtime kick-off against Swansea on BT last year as well?
Yes. Would also add that the last five title winners have kicked off their season on a Monday night. Manchester City open their season on Monday night football.
 
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