Don't like their premiership stuff but their coverage of the foreign leagues with James Richardson, Honigstein and co is pretty good
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I just watched Scouse V Newcastle via a stream and what struck is how far up Liverpools backside was Ian Darke, it was embarressing and I personally thought that they were quite poor today.
I don't have many issues with their coverage to be honest. I don't like how they give Warnock air time and I don't like how they ask Halsey on his opinion for every single decision.
Could Steven Mcmanaman be anymore smug? Lol he is a knob head!
Hargreaves' accent is really annoying.
I'm watching Mose Eisley Sports with the in-demand Gray & Keys.
BT seems to be free today, it's working for me anyway and I don't have a subscription.
I quite like it. The little inplay splitscreen box whenever they go to replays or substitutions is such common sense I'm flabbergasted no ones done it before. Everyone should copy it, and probably will. The daft live action subbuteo analysis thing is at least more visually interesting than Gary Nevile's big pencil, but sadly lacking Gary Neville. It still shits on 'An Audience With Jamie Redknapp', or anything terrestrial TV has ever done. Their commentators are a bit shit but that's never been anything I'm really interested in. I'm already watching it.
The only thing that annoys me is their studio. Which seems to be deliberately trying to out spaceship Sky. Or ITV News's old holodeck thing that even they realised was bonkers.
The only thing that annoys me is their studio. Which seems to be deliberately trying to out spaceship Sky. Or ITV News's old holodeck thing that even they realised was bonkers.
What's the point in Mark Halsey? All he ever does is tell us how his mate refereeing the game got the decision right.
It's not really interesting very in practice, but the concept of having a ref on hand is. I like the little Red Card icon on the scoreboard too. Helpful if you've switched on late. All these little things are very simply but effective. There's not a whole lot new you can implement in live footage without it being obstructive or for the sake of it People just want to watch the game. I think they've done well to improve things with small touches personally.
It's obviously not as fun as moaning, but I'm quietly impressed with their coverage.
It's obviously not as fun as moaning, but I'm quietly impressed with their coverage.
I think all the little additions that TV companies make are pointless. The only thing I want is the score, the stadium noise and some way of keeping track of who I'm seeing on the pitch. Ideally, I'd want no commentary at all and just some kind of FIFA style floating shirt numbers around each player so I know who's in frame. No idea if that would work in practice, but I can't help but feel that all of these things that BT Sport are trying innovate with are diluting the experience. I want my TV football as pared down as possible.
So you don't even want replays? Because the addition of the live footage box is to make sure you know what's happening when they go to replays. Surely even you can't see that as a negative addition?
These companies are obsessed with everything that surrounds the game these days than the actual game itself. Putting on ridiculously long preview shows, pissing about with technology, analysing every little thing, fancy graphics for everything, too many pundits, too much talking before and after the game. All the viewer cares about is the 90 mins.
Don't watch any of that then. You're not forced to. fecking moan moan moan.
All their in game additions strike me as unobtrusive as possible, whilst also being helpful. What possible objection can you have to a tiny red card icon on the scoreboard letting you know a team are down to 10? How is that diluting or ruining an experience in anyway?
All their in game additions strike me as unobtrusive as possible, whilst also being helpful. What possible objection can you have to a tiny red card icon on the scoreboard letting you know a team are down to 10? How is that diluting or ruining an experience in anyway?
It's not as if anyone is really bothered about the other shows on these sports channels. Although I might opt to watch a sport I have no interest in over Jamie's own football version of Top Gear.
Their PL coverage is worse than ESPN's I think. Don't really care about any of the little additions, it's just the commentary and punditry which make it more painful viewing.
Yeah, fair enough with replays. That's worth keeping.
I don't see why they can't make all the extraneous bits of football coverage an option on the red button.
To be fair I don't really watch, or only half watch the pre and post match analysis on any channels, so all I'm bothered with is the actual game coverage. Which I think's been really good personally.
Do you mean the pre and post match stuff? or the in game stuff? The analysis etc is optional anyway. It's not as if it's taking up time on an otherwise brilliant channel. As 100 said, no one really watches anything else on it.
Seems like I'm the only person who's appreciating it. Pfft. Screw you guys.
Do you mean the pre and post match stuff? or the in game stuff? The analysis etc is optional anyway. It's not as if it's taking up time on an otherwise brilliant channel. As 100 said, no one really watches anything else on it.
I don't get why people get bothered by commentary. There should definitely be a button to turn it off (which the BBC did for a while, dunno if anyone still does) but at the end of the day, any two people talking over a game constantly are going to annoy you. It's only there to provide an accustomed aesthetic. As long as their voices aren't like dying sloths on tranquilisers (Pleat, Taylor, almost everyone on ITV) it never bothers me.
Seems like I'm the only person who's appreciating it. Pfft. Screw you guys.
That's the thing, as long as they blend in with the background it's no issue for me. I don't think Michael Owen does that very well. Very nervous and jittery and gets in silly arguments with Mark Halsey. I never really watch any of the punditry anywhere either but it's so bad on BT Sport I have to mute it or change the channel.
Fair enough. Didn't really notice it. It's all background noise for me. Even if it's god awful, it's just something to giggle at rather than ruin my enjoyment.
I think people just don't like change. This whole thread's been a moan fest, with little or no mention of the quite good in game stuff they've implemented. There are people in the fixtures thread pinning for Keys and Grey FFS. There was never anything great about them. They were just - coincidentally - fixtures.
But like I said, I don't really care about analysis. So maybe I'm weird.
I think people just don't like change. This whole thread's been a moan fest, with little or no mention of the quite good in game stuff they've implemented. There are people in the fixtures thread pinning for Keys and Grey FFS. There was never anything great about them. They were just - coincidentally - fixtures.
But like I said, I don't really care about analysis. So maybe I'm weird.
The in game stuff.
TV coverage has got increasingly "busy" over the years, and I think that channels are too afraid to get left behind in the proliferation race of graphics and punditry. I don't think it makes my enjoyment of the game any greater, and if anything leads to a fair bit of annoyance.
But then I'm the kind of person who'll verbally tell the TV to feck off when I see something useless I don't like.
TV coverage has got increasingly "busy" over the years, and I think that channels are too afraid to get left behind in the proliferation race of graphics and punditry. I don't think it makes my enjoyment of the game any greater, and if anything leads to a fair bit of annoyance.
But then I'm the kind of person who'll verbally tell the TV to feck off when I see something useless I don't like.
They've won rights to the champions league and europa league,possibly all of them 
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA feck OFF TYLDESLEY
They've won rights to the champions league and europa league,possibly all of them
Rumoured. Rumoured that it's exclusive, which should rule ITV and Sky out totally. Be a massive blow to Sky - huge. ITV would suffer big too. BT would have to enormously up their game though. Jesus, can you imagine McManaman? "Don't get me wrong, I like Iniesta, I think he's a good player, but for the role he plays he just doesn't offer enough of a goal threat. He should work on that."
I imagine it'd either fall flat or go someway to disbanding Sky, taking the likes of Souness, Hoddle and Gullit.
Hehehe, Sky if this is true.
I'd be stunned if Sky let BT take the Champions League from them - the price would have to be fecking insane for them to allow that; the loss of status that would result in for Sky would be embarrassing enough.
1 billion for 3 years starting in 2015, apparently.
That might do it
Looking at Twitter it seems this is all coming from an article in the Telegraph.
Can't afford to get BT and Sky Sports - really hoping this is not true but looks like they're going to get it
At least this should mean the end of Adrian Chiles.
At least this should mean the end of Adrian Chiles.
It's a bit shit really if BT get exclusive coverage. The ratings will fall off a cliff. It'd be like the World Cup being shown exclusively on Setanta Sport, when it existed here. This certainly fecks Sky over.
The Telegraph are saying they've got both the CL and the Europa League for £1bn over 3 years. I suppose they're banking on one of United, Liverpool or Arsenal failing to get into the top 4 every year.
Why? If you've the rights to United vs Real Madrid you're not going to curse that we're not playing Elfsborg on the Thursday instead, are you?
But if Liverpool are playing Elfsborg on the Thursday as well, that'll mean that BT get 3 days of decent ratings per week, rather than just 2... hence (in part) the massive £1bn deal.
Thank feck for RTE and TV3 (boo) if this is true. I feel sorry for you brits. Having to pay to watch the Champions League is a joke.
Dan roan reckons it might be announced by 10am today
feck off.
This is the beginning of the bursting of the bubble.
This is the beginning of the bursting of the bubble.
Good for bt... with more football pethaps they can attract better pundits and make it a bit more watchable
They at least have to be better than itv anyway
They at least have to be better than itv anyway
Can't afford to get BT and Sky Sports - really hoping this is not true but looks like they're going to get it
At least this should mean the end of Adrian Chiles.
It's about £8 and won't come in for two years. Plenty of time to save.
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