Bruno Martins Indi

Get out now! How dare you speak of the name in this thread! Is thread is for ramble of Zouma at St Etienne, Jones/Smalling/Evans at United and two posters of the Caf who have nothing better to do with their time but insult each other over a pointless argument!
One of whom makes it his reason for living, on every thread he can manage.
 
Gives an average & some idea of a persons obsessiveness.

I know. Just checking how many posts per day I make. I think I'm above my average rate for the day so I'm lurking for the rest of the day.
 
Agreed. When I spot a pain in the behind on here, the first thing I do is note their total number of comments & divide them by the days they've been a full member. It often delivers the conclusion that they are a billy no mates who live on their lap-tops.

And I think they very much put off people from making more regular contributions. Is that what the 'caf' want from their 'moderators'?

;)
I don't have a laptop, so jokes on you.

Yeah, the best way to be involved is by not posting at all. Certainly when you're as poor a poster as you are.
 
One of whom makes it his reason for living, on every thread he can manage.
Who is the one making petty little personal digs? If you don't like me put me on ignore. I've never interacted with you at all, but it's clear I'd never want to.

If you disagree with any point I've made then have the balls to say it instead of making snide personal digs.

I have rather a full life, as it happens, with friends and a good family unit. My wife and kid love me too. I'm doing ok, but thanks for your concern. It's touching when someone who doesn't know you reaches out. Thanks buddy.
 
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We're never going to see eye to eye on what is essentially quite a trivial matter. I think we should leave it because it's become less and less civil and more and more childish. It's also derailing the thread quite a bit.
 
Here's a question. You agree we should sign another centre back, so all things being equal (ie availability, impact on spend on other areas unaffected, the player is happy to come and fight for his place etc), what kind of centre back should we go ideally go for? One who is better than what we have, as good as what we have, or worse than what we have?

I know I said to move on, but out of politeness I'm going to answer the question.
I think we should be aiming for the best centre back we can get. Mainly because I don't think the ones we have will ever provide us with the central defensive partnership we should be aiming for. I could be wrong, but I don't see two of Evans, Smalling or Jones ever being a good enough first choice pairing. Like I said, I agree with your desire for a stronger backline. That's not the issue.

And you never said get four players of the quality I mentioned, but you did suggest having players of equal ability. This only works for a while because either you have a settled defence and risk upsetting quality players or you rotate to keep everyone happy and risk consistency in your back line.

I really do think we need to move on from this though.
 
I know I said to move on, but out of politeness I'm going to answer the question.
I think we should be aiming for the best centre back we can get. Mainly because I don't think the ones we have will ever provide us with the central defensive partnership we should be aiming for. I could be wrong, but I don't see two of Evans, Smalling or Jones ever being a good enough first choice pairing. Like I said, I agree with your desire for a stronger backline. That's not the issue.

And you never said get four players of the quality I mentioned, but you did suggest having players of equal ability. This only works for a while because either you have a settled defence and risk upsetting quality players or you rotate to keep everyone happy and risk consistency in your back line.

I really do think we need to move on from this though.
I never said we should look to go signing players all of the same ability either, I just said doing so isn't a worse idea than signing worse ones, but is in fact preferable.

I agree though, we should let it be here. It's a tedious argument and one I wish I hadn't allowed myself to getting dragged into.
 
Agreed. When I spot a pain in the behind on here, the first thing I do is note their total number of comments & divide them by the days they've been a full member. It often delivers the conclusion that they are a billy no mates who live on their lap-tops.

And I think they very much put off people from making more regular contributions. Is that what the 'caf' want from their 'moderators'?

;)

Depends. Different ways to look at it. I sometimes doubt posters who average 1-2 posts per day and pop up only on particular moments in particular type of threads talking crap. More of an indication of a troll.
 
I never said we should look to go signing players all of the same ability either, I just said doing so isn't a worse idea than signing worse ones, but is in fact preferable.

I agree though, we should let it be here. It's a tedious argument and one I wish I hadn't allowed myself to getting dragged into.
I'm not alone am I, troll. I've taken the time to read a few, just a few of your posts & there's a clear pattern. While making valid points, you simply cannot abide anyone else offering an opposing opinion, hence mine & others clearly labelling you a rather sad individual.

3 years a full member, averaging 30 posts a day - says it all.
 
Depends. Different ways to look at it. I sometimes doubt posters who average 1-2 posts per day and pop up only on particular moments in particular type of threads talking crap. More of an indication of a troll.

Can be very true I agree but when someone (not you), makes it their full time job to antagonise & patronise the valid contributions of others, I think they need taking down a peg.
 
I know. Just checking how many posts per day I make. I think I'm above my average rate for the day so I'm lurking for the rest of the day.

Nothing to worry about NZ - you don't even come close to getting labelled obsessive or, troll. ;)
 
I'm not alone am I, troll. I've taken the time to read a few, just a few of your posts & there's a clear pattern. While making valid points, you simply cannot abide anyone else offering an opposing opinion, hence mine & others clearly labelling you a rather sad individual.

3 years a full member, averaging 30 posts a day - says it all.
It says I like the place and enjoy posting here, because that's what I signed up to do. I have a perfectly happy life, and don't find myself at all sad.

If you feel being involved in the place and the discussions here, and being rather well liked by a lot of regulars, sad, then that's your call.

I'm kind of a big deal. People know me. You, I don't ever recall seeing your name. Hope you enjoy the site.
 
Can be very true I agree but when someone (not you), makes it their full time job to antagonise & patronise the valid contributions of others, I think they need taking down a peg.
And you're just the man to do it? :lol:

Behave yourself. If you want to continue this nonsense, pm me or something. You're taking this thread more off track than anyone to date. At least before it was actually a discussion about our centre back options and how best to address them going forward. If you have an issue with me either pm me, report me or ignore me. Pick whichever one suits you best.
 
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People keep checking their post counts to ensure they keep within their daily limit? What the hell :lol:
 
And you're just the man to do it? :lol:

Behave yourself. If you want to continue this nonsense, pm me or something. You're taking this thread more off track than anyone to date. At least before it was actually a discussion about our centre back options and how best to address them going forward. If you have an issue with me either pm me, report me or ignore me. Pick whichever one suits you best.

"..need taking down a peg" made me chuckle but I thought it is best not to respond and further aid in derailing of the thread :D
 
"..need taking down a peg" made me chuckle but I thought it is best not to respond and further aid in derailing of the thread :D
I feel like I've been taken down a peg. Well, maybe not a full one. Can you be taken down a half peg?

How do I get back up onto the higher peg though? That's now my mission.
 
I feel like I've been taken down a peg. Well, maybe not a full one. Can you be taken down a half peg?

How do I get back up onto the higher peg though? That's now my mission.

You should really keep track of your posts per day and bring it down to less than 5 per day. That's the only way to get back up.
 
I'd like to know the sweet spot, to be honest. Just between "somewhat sad wanker" and "hasn't seen daylight in weeks".

I'm sure the guy will pop in to tell you in a week or so once he's lurked enough to compensate for posting too much today.

Anyways, the thread's all over the place now. Just ignore them and move on.
 
You should really keep track of your posts per day and bring it down to less than 5 per day. That's the only way to get back up.
I'm sure the guy will pop in to tell you in a week or so once he's lurked enough to compensate for posting too much today.

Anyways, the thread's all over the place now. Just ignore them and move on.
Both good points. I knew I liked* you both for a good reason.



*Don't tell anyone else I said I liked you, everyone else thinks you're turds.
 
Seems to be alot on non related Bruno Matins Indi stuff above, but back to the player I think for a relatively modest-ish fee he is well worth it, already bought into the LvG philosophy, and an able if not spectacular defender, not sure of his injury record, but can't be any worse than our current CB's.

Would be a good back up, as I don't rate Smalling, and Evans is too often injured, but we'd still need another top defender to come in to partner a hopefully more often fit, and not played out of position Phil Jones.
 
Seems to be alot on non related Bruno Matins Indi stuff above, but back to the player I think for a relatively modest-ish fee he is well worth it, already bought into the LvG philosophy, and an able if not spectacular defender, not sure of his injury record, but can't be any worse than our current CB's.

Would be a good back up, as I don't rate Smalling, and Evans is too often injured, but we'd still need another top defender to come in to partner a hopefully more often fit, and not played out of position Phil Jones.
Who is this guy?
 
If most are on here are honest, the only time we see these players are occasional highlights of the CL and tournaments. If I landed from the planet Zar, I wouldn't believe the Spanish keeper is one of the most decorated players in the history of football on that performance.

Too early for me to say and I'm relying on our Dutch supporters to whether they think he's good enough.....

I don't pretend to be an expert on him, but I did watch him last summer in the U21 tournament and wasn't particularly impressed then either.
 
Ah Jesus, I didn't even realised you'd misspelled it! :lol:

I was joking because he hadn't been discussed in here for so long. Damn bad luck and coincidence!

My bad, thought you we're been very picky as I was only one letter out!

It's always hard to gauge what someone is meaning on these forums!
 
People keep checking their post counts to ensure they keep within their daily limit? What the hell :lol:

It's this new newbie madness. Some of the new ones I've seen over the last 3 or 4 months have to be the worst. What the hell is rotation risk btw?

So posting thirty times a day makes you sad? I could post that if there is a good discussion going as I'd be on my phone and tablet.
 
It's this new newbie madness. Some of the new ones I've seen over the last 3 or 4 months have to be the worst. What the hell is rotation risk btw?

So posting thirty times a day makes you sad? I could post that if there is a good discussion going as I'd be on my phone and tablet.
Don't ask!
 
It's this new newbie madness. Some of the new ones I've seen over the last 3 or 4 months have to be the worst. What the hell is rotation risk btw?

So posting thirty times a day makes you sad? I could post that if there is a good discussion going as I'd be on my phone and tablet.

Yeah what the hell has happened with this?
 
Zouma had started 17 games last year 7 as sub and had started in Europe and French Cup. He was banned for 10 games this year. I don't think that can classify as backup.

Thats what he was, and not one of St. Etienne's top 2 CBs. Perrin and Sall were arguably their best 2 players last season, over 30 games each
 
He reckoned he'd be part of their first team squad. The discussion was between Zouma and Michael Keane, and whether they'd both hold the same role within their respective squads next season.


I see. Then yes of course Zouma is more likely to be involved
 
I think he's right really. Zouma is going to be part of Chelsea's first team next year. Like Jones and Smalling who had little experience with Blackburn and Fulham respectively but had like 30-40 games in their first season.

Zouma has experience, although not in England and being young but I can see him take part in Chelsea's team next season with Terry being older and probably more injury prone. Keane is highly unlikely to feature in the first team next season (maybe League cup if not loaned out).

Their roles are totally different...

At the moment you're just speculating, however, my reasoning behind Zouma being back up, in response to @The Neviller, was only if Chelsea were to buy a top class centre back replacement for David Luiz, as they'd have 3 first choice centre backs, plus Ivanovic as another back up centre back. David Luiz had only 13 appearances as a centre back last season, and he was 3rd choice centre back. If Chelsea don't buy a replacement for Luiz, there's no doubt Zouma will have a good few appearances, especially if one of Terry or Cahill get injured.
 
I know it's pointless even bringing it up, but it is a bit annoying clicking into a thread, hoping to get some insight into a player you know little about, and finding little to no content related to said player. Why can't arguments be carried by private message?