Who said anything about wanting them 3 as starters next season? I've used them 3 as an example for people who think pogba and Bruno can't play together and by pointing out last seasons front 3.
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Who said anything about wanting them 3 as starters next season? I've used them 3 as an example for people who think pogba and Bruno can't play together and by pointing out last seasons front 3.
Oh you're one of those guys, I wish I'd realized sooner, nevermind, have a good day, just for the record though, he's nothing like Scholes, that comparison isn't lazy, it's just flat out wrong and stupid.
Compare him to Mkhy even more silly with both players don’t even play in the same role & position.
Yes they do, please don't try to act like Bruno is a proper CM, he's not, he basically plays the role Pogba has for us which is the AM, not unlike the role Mkhi had in Dortmund behind the front 3, call it AM or #10 it amounts to the same thing, people get too caught up in positional designations, if Bruno comes here he'll either replace Pogba or play as a #10 behind the striker, like Mkhi, the style of their play is very similar, that's just clear to the eye.
You are forcing it by calling it the same while it’s still different. Sums it up.
Mkhy plays more on the right than even in AM or even CM, when he played as AM at Dortmund, he plays right behind the striker. On the other hand, Bruno plays majority as CM in midfield 3 this season. Bruno’s role is more of a deeper playmaker. Bruno can plays in #10 behind striker or AM & CM, depends on how Ole wants to play he can fit into both roles.
And no. Both him & Mkhy play different style & different position.
Believe what you want mate, I don't think you've even seen him play from the things you're saying, like I said if he comes here we can revisit this and we'll see who was correct. I'm saying he'll play as a #10 here, his role at Sporting is as free as Pogba or Mkhi's or Lampard's was at Chelsea, another example is Gerrard under Rafa, if you really think this guy is a deeper CM I think you'll get a wake-up if/when he arrives, but we shall see. .
I don’t deny he can play as #10 because I have said this 3x already to you that he can play both roles as CM & AM which likely to play in those two roles. He has played more as CM than as AM this season 24 appearances in the role. It’s fact, not making things up like how you silly compare him to Mkhy & assume both play in the same role & position.
There's nothing playmaking in Bruno's game. He's no playmaker. All I see is a player who drops back to get the ball in open space and either punt it long to the wing, in Rooney's esque style or drives forward with it, after which he takes a long shot. And then rinse and repeat. At times, he lurks behind like a shadow striker to finish off rebounds/knock off or makes one-two passing moves with his teammates, after which he receives the return pass to finish off. Is that your playmaker?
He's got a good shot on him though.
How do you describe a playmaker?
Bruno isn't similar to Scholes..
I’m not saying he is, but he has much more to his game than just a punt and a shot. Some of the analysis in this thread is a bit silly.
We also have to remember the evolution of Scholes as a player. He was playing as a 10 at Bruno’s age. Again, not saying Bruno is comparable but who knows going forward. Bruno has the touch, passing, dribbling and ball-striking to go far at the very least.
He reminds me of de bruyne a lot but when he is poor he is really poor.
Scholes was a striker coming through the youth ranks. But in his mid 20s he was a CM no question. This Bruno chap isn't similar at all..
I’m not saying he is. A poster out of nowhere just think he’s like Mkhy which not even close. In comparison with Mkhy style he’s closer to Scholes & Lampard.
You realize Pogba, Gerrard and Lampard were all classed as playing CM as well, right? but in reality they were in 3 man midfields where they had the free role which is an AM which is akin to a #10, You make it sound like he was playing as a proper CM in a midfield 2 like Scholes did with Keane and Carrick, which is completely false. He's a lot more like Mkhi than Scholes, that is for sure, how you've gotten any comparison with Scholes is utterly mind boggling, he's not a playmaker.
As always you are just making assumption.
Scholes played in no 10 role before & performed brilliant with 14 league goals a season. Mkhy played more on the wide area, hardly even play in CM in midfield 3, don’t know how can you even call that close. Mkhy was never had the ability to play in CM, Bruno has. Player like Pjanic, Modric, Scholes, Lampard are closer to Bruno in comparison of Mkhy.
A playmaker is a player with exceptional passing ability, whether that means playing defence-splitting hollywood passes or reliably and efficiently recycling possession for teammates, even when under pressure. Bruno tick the boxes.
Other than Scholes having a short spell in his career as a #10 the rest of this is just factually inaccurate, it's just made up. Bruno is absolutely nothing like any of the players you have mentioned there bar shooting like Lampard, and you don't understand what a playmaker is.
You are entitled to say Bruno is nothing like them but you make yourself looks silly & ridiculous if you still think Mkhy is even like Bruno because my point is Mkhy has absolutely no comparison. They both play different position & role to begin with. Ironically, names I mentioned at least they did play in the same position & role as Bruno. Modric, Lampard, Scholes & Pjanic used to play as AM & CM, Mkhy hardly even play in CM.
You have no right pretending you understand what is playmaker when you can’t even describe what is playmaker. My explanation about playmaker is 100x better than your zero input. ‘Lazy’ argument.
You keep listing players that are much less like Bruno than Mkhi, Bruno isn't and never will be a CM, it's circular at this point man, lets just wrap this up.
You gave an explanation to someone else, not me, I read it and it was wrong. A playmaker controls the game, he orchestrates the play, he sets the tempo for the team with lots of simple passes that move the pieces around, Bruno isn't that, neither is Pogba, they are final 3rd players that can cut a defense open with a pass or craft an opening with creativity, that's a creator, not a playmaker, they are different things.
Bruno has played as CM more than he did as AM. Those listed names are just example to show Mkhi is nothing compare to Bruno. Play different position, have different pace, doesn’t have the same shooting range, different ability of taking set pieces, different passing quality that one has precise weighted passes while the other doesn’t, Bruno likes to drop deeper to get the ball. There is no comparison to back up your assumption.
I replied it to you about the explanation so stop making things up. You are wrong, your definition is deep playmaker not playmaker. Playmaker has many types traditional playmaker who operates as no 10, deep playmaker, trequartista and etc. All different kind playmaker roles have something in common and that common thing is exactly what I explained.
Oh for fecks sake, now you're splitting posts, you are completelely wrong about the playmaker stuff and the rest I just don't give a shit about anymore, I hope we aren't signing him whether he's the same as Pele, Mkhi, Mickey Mouse, Hulk Hogan or Dennis Rodman, you win, ok.
Have you seen the movie 'The Cable Guy' with Jim Carrey?
If you have, you'll understand the reference..
I think Solskjaers preferred formation will be playing a diamond or with a false 9. Fernandes would be meant as an upgrade on Mata and Lingard who he played centrally in those formations this year. That's just how I see it anyways.
Moaning for something unnecessary. It’s part of your nature aye, looking for an argument.
If Bruno with Pep, he will play in the midfield 3 like KDB or Silva role. If Mkhy plays with Pep, he will play as a winger not in midfield 3. Unfortunately even after I gave you this most simple explanation, you still can’t see how the two players are completely different.
Look I am not suggesting we do away of wingers. This formation was meant to show how we can squeeze Maddison and Bruno in the same team successfully. Having said that, width doesn't necessarily need to come from wingers. A mix of Fullbacks, mezzalas and strikers who can drop on the flanks can easily provide it. Its happening in the EPL as well as fullbacks are becoming more attacking minded and wingers are being replaced by inside forwards
Have you seen the movie 'The Cable Guy' with Jim Carrey?
If you have, you'll understand the reference..
Damn, I haven't seen it.
No, I just hate post splitters and looking for an argument? You started this, you've listed a bunch of players that are nothing like Bruno and after I said "you win" you have kept on going.
If Mkhi was under Pep he'd play the De Bruyne role, you are just flat out wrong at this point, I'm done with this.
Damn, I haven't seen it.
No, I just hate post splitters and looking for an argument? You started this, you've listed a bunch of players that are nothing like Bruno and after I said "you win" you have kept on going.
If Mkhi was under Pep he'd play the De Bruyne role, you are just flat out wrong at this point, I'm done with this.
I started by saying that the description of the poster mentioned “precise weighted pass” has nothing alike to Mkhy style. You are just making it to bigger issue.
Okay mate, Mkhy will play as CM in midfield 3 in your what I called “assumption with no proof”. A position where he hardly even play there. Bravo you win.Your Right, Devil. Just got back from Portugal last night and they are all saying his position is a 10, more Mata type. He can score goals and make goals, and I hope we do get him.
Me too, looks a really good player.
I started by saying that the description of the poster mentioned “precise weighted pass” has nothing alike to Mkhy style. You are just making it to bigger issue.
It's not a CM role and neither is the role Bruno plays at Sporting, it's an AM like Pogba. Also Silva never played there until Pep got him, he played off the wing. Check back into Mkhi's history, not only did he play AM plenty of tims for Dortmund, he played it for Shaktar as well, it's not me that has him compared to the wrong type of players, it's you, and I tell you what, because this has dragged on so long I'm going to tag in the big Sporting and Bruno fan here and he can end it, if he says he's more like Scholes and Modric and Pjanic than Mkhi then that's that.
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Leicester would demand upwards of £70M. They wanted around £70M for Maguire last summer. They're in no rush to sell players.
Bruno has played many games in a midfield of two last season with Jorge Jesus. He's an all action midfielder nothing like Mikhi or Mata.
He told Portuguese publication Record: "I like Liverpool a lot more [than Man City]. It's a more direct [style of play], more offensive, maybe less organised, but more intense football.
"City, without the ball, has the intensity of the eleven, and can in a moment of pressure put the [opposing] team in a corner and end up stealing the ball.
"In Liverpool they are more individual players, especially in the midfield, usually playing three very aggressive players and recovering the ball."
"City, without the ball, has the intensity of the eleven, and can in a moment of pressure put the [opposing] team in a corner and end up stealing the ball.
"In Liverpool they are more individual players, especially in the midfield, usually playing three very aggressive players and recovering the ball."
He is nothing like Scholes or Modric. He plays in the AM role usually behind the striker but him and Mkhi do not have the same style of play at all but yes they do play the same position.
Bruno has played CM before but 9/10 he plays in the AM role. Modric and Scholes are orchestrators of the game. They set the tempo. Bruno does NOT do that. He tracks back a lot and helps the pressing so that maybe could be where the confusion lies. He is an engine.
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But also nothing like Modric or Scholes.
He is going to be a coach one day. Very intelligent and he himself has stated he wants to coach.
Cheers mate. so if he isn't comparable to any of the players both sides are using, who would you compare him to? and would you say his physical weakness and the way he is easily knocked over is similar to Mkhi at least?
How is Mkhi going to play in Pep playmaking role if you don’t even consider him as playmaker.
@SportingCP96 has confirmed that Mkhi & Bruno do not have the same playing style at all. End.
Not similar ‘’at all’’.
Jesus Christ you're stalking him now and it's getting tedious.
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