Bruno Fernandes | United not interested due to doubts over passing ability

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It's sad to say but this transfet became a bit out of our hands the second City got interested.

Guardiola and a winning setup against Ole and the current level of disorganization the club is in.

City getting Guardiola has been one of the most successful managerial appointments in recent years. He has changed the whole perception of the club. Really have to hand it to the Shiekhs, they know how to run a football club. Best run club in England right now.
 
City getting Guardiola has been one of the most successful managerial appointments in recent years. He has changed the whole perception of the club. Really have to hand it to the Shiekhs, they know how to run a football club. Best run club in England right now.
Compounded by the fact that we have been run like idiots. We have played a huge role in letting a nothing club turn into a major force while we were making "no value in market bs". We should never have let them buy aguero, silva, KdB. We might be one of the worst run top clubs in football.
 
Did the meltdown start? Get a fecking grip guys !
Heard the same thing about Jorginho and Fred last year. Just see how it turned out for Chelsea and us.
 
We shouldn't care about City signing Fernandes. Mata is a known quantity in the PL and we just offered him a new contract. People on this thread are losing their shit for nothing.
 
They're going to fecking sign him aren't they :lol: Typical - my muppet signing of the summer and he goes to City.

We're in aggressive need for a player of his ilk, and City just adds another to their stockpile of attacking gems.
 
Talk about kneejerk reaction! You and the guy who posted that tweet
I mean City are reported to be the favourites atm and that it’s close.

And with Ole recently coming out in an interview and saying the club has made an offer to Mata, you can already begin to see the writing on the wall.

...just trying to logically piece things together. Doesn’t look favourable for United right now.

Aaaand this is what I was afraid of

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Let them buy Fernandes.

With no DM or LB, they'll be so vulnerable in defense it doesn't matter whether they score 4 or 5 because they'll let you score as many goals as well!
 
Let them buy Fernandes.

With no DM or LB, they'll be so vulnerable in defense it doesn't matter whether they score 4 or 5 because they'll let you score as many goals as well!

Yep those 22 goals they have shipped in nearly 37 games is terrible. They should play like us with 2 defensive midfielders and an ex winger at RB then you can concede 30 more.
 
Let them buy Fernandes.

With no DM or LB, they'll be so vulnerable in defense it doesn't matter whether they score 4 or 5 because they'll let you score as many goals as well!
I wouldn't be surprised if they also buy a CDM, someone like Rodri or a cover for Fernandinho (Ndidi, Rice, Doucoure,...)

I hope they don't get him. Fernandes is a quality midfielder.
 
You’d have to hope we were willing to match that 55m euros, and he just chose city. Otherwise...
 
Im not going to cry over a player i've never even watched but this is not surprising, we're shit and can't even attract players like this.
 
Good to see Citys squad getting even stronger. We need them to stop Liverpool for years to come, because there's no way we will be able to do that.
 
Don't see the massive cause for concern, he plays in positions which similarly are occupied by Pogba (No 10), what we need as shown many times this season are players who play from our own half (deep) into the opposition's. Your Neves' / Ndombele / Tonalis / Tielemans. We need atleast two solid no 8s, that along with a RW will change the dynamics of our play.
 
Yep those 22 goals they have shipped in nearly 37 games is terrible. They should play like us with 2 defensive midfielders and an ex winger at RB then you can concede 30 more.
:lol:
 
His stats looked rubbish against Porto, Benfica and Arsenal though. That's quite worrying. He even lost the ball 8 times as a result of poor touches in one of the above games and that's not counting the ones he was dispossessed.

I believe he's a poor man's Gylfi sigurdsson because he's also not nimble nor fast.

Your post reminded me of Renato Sanches. He was also lauded by the Portuguese fans (maybe not you) but then, I remembered watching his individual touches and wasn't impressed but afterwards, I saw some dudes on twitter tweeting Van Gaal to not miss out on him and were giving him some accolades, I had to come in after that and gave my opinion about him. I don't know if Van Gaal saw it or not but the most important thing was he wasn't signed however the most annoying was how some of the Portuguese fans were lauding him and almost forced him on us.

His stats look rubbish on those games? Seriously? Just watch the games. The reality is he carried the team on his own and those werent exceptions.
Just this season alone, if im not forgetting any he has 3 goals against Benfica, and that was the reason we eliminated them in the Portuguese Cup. 1-2 and 1-0 , he scored both goals.
And even when he doesnt score he is the one pushing the team forward, we are clueless without him.

If even rivals fans from Porto and Benfica agree he's the best player in the league, it's pretty obvious he is.
And Renato Sanches was never really rated by everyone, he always had huge flaws in his game.
 
Sky have him down as Fernandinho's long term replacement, guess they've never actually seen the lad play then eh?
 
His stats look rubbish on those games? Seriously? Just watch the games. The reality is he carried the team on his own and those werent exceptions.
Just this season alone, if im not forgetting any he has 3 goals against Benfica, and that was the reason we eliminated them in the Portuguese Cup. 1-2 and 1-0 , he scored both goals.
And even when he doesnt score he is the one pushing the team forward, we are clueless without him.

If even rivals fans from Porto and Benfica agree he's the best player in the league, it's pretty obvious he is.
And Renato Sanches was never really rated by everyone, he always had huge flaws in his game.

Well, I don't buy the idea of a player who lost the ball 8 times due to his poor touches in a game. If he was dispossessed, I can take that but having so many poor touches in one game? Nah! We have Fred already.

Also, I watched his compilation clip (I would have loved to see his individual touches) however I wasn't impressed. It was more about his goal scoring attributes than his passing skills and strengths as a midfielder.
 
His stats are amazing this year... that said is he that much improved this year or has he had a Michu type season where everything has gone perfect this year?

28 in 48 plus a bunch of assists sounds amazing for a midfielder... but 36 in the 209 games that preceded it not so much

He could be the next lampard - or he could be a long way short of that

Brought for €8.5m two seasons ago - as much as that looks a bargin I think his €100m buy out clause looks a lot to pay based on one great season for somebody who will be 25 a few weeks into the next campaign
 
I was really looking forward to us signing this guy. Looks super exciting. Sigh...
 
Out of interest 12 months ago our potential Pogba replacement was Savic at Lazio, how does Bruno compare to him?
 
Why do people keep pulling the "Renato Sanches" argument? Bayern was pretty much clueless in that business, just because he scored a goal and made some decent games at Euro. Renato only started to play because Fernando Santos switched to a 4x1x3x2 formation for the Euro 2016, and that formation fits his qualities, and also André Gomes was in a very poor form on that tournament.
 
Why do people keep pulling the "Renato Sanches" argument? Bayern was pretty much clueless in that business, just because he scored a goal and made some decent games at Euro. Renato only started to play because Fernando Santos switched to a 4x1x3x2 formation for the Euro 2016, and that formation fits his qualities, and also André Gomes was in a very poor form on that tournament.

I think he already signed for Bayern before his euro goal. It was his performance against Bayern that got him signed and most of the Portuguese fans were raving about him. Same thing happened with João Mario, Gaitan, Adrien Silva, Fernando, Malaga etc.

I wouldn't have problem with Bruno Fernandes signing if we already had a good midfield that needed a cherry on the top but we don't and Fernandes doesn't look like a player who dictate the play in the midfield. Moreover, his performance in the Europa League were underwhelming. The Europa team are the kind of team he would meet in the EPL. I have same notion about Barella after watching his individual touches for Italy in one of their games. The intensity was high in that match and he wasn't allowed enough time on the ball and as a result, he was uncomfortable and looked erratic which lay credence to his high amount of poor touches stat. He's likely to meet similar high intensity and physically imposing opposition team in the EPL than in Serie A. Likewise Bruno Fernandes. I admit I haven't seen Bruno fernandes' individual touches but the fact that he was underwhelming in the Europa matches and even in the Serie A is worrying for me. Bast dost scored a lot too, didn't he? And Fernandes is the team's defacto set pieces taker. The point is I won't rate Fernandes' ability as a midfielder while using his goal scoring attributes as a parameter.
 
His stats are amazing this year... that said is he that much improved this year or has he had a Michu type season where everything has gone perfect this year?

28 in 48 plus a bunch of assists sounds amazing for a midfielder... but 36 in the 209 games that preceded it not so much

He could be the next lampard - or he could be a long way short of that

Brought for €8.5m two seasons ago - as much as that looks a bargin I think his €100m buy out clause looks a lot to pay based on one great season for somebody who will be 25 a few weeks into the next campaign
Its not one goof season though. Lat season he had 16 goals an 17 assists which are fantastic stats and this season he has kept the same assist tally but added 15 more Goals. He also showed his talent of Italy which is why he played over 100 games in the Serie A before he was 21.
 
I think he already signed for Bayern before his euro goal. It was his performance against Bayern that got him signed and most of the Portuguese fans were raving about him. Same thing happened with João Mario, Gaitan, Adrien Silva, Fernando, Malaga etc.

I wouldn't have problem with Bruno Fernandes signing if we already had a good midfield that needed a cherry on the top but we don't and Fernandes doesn't look like a player who dictate the play in the midfield. Moreover, his performance in the Europa League were underwhelming. The Europa team are the kind of team he would meet in the EPL. I have same notion about Barella after watching his individual touches for Italy in one of their games. The intensity was high in that match and he wasn't allowed enough time on the ball and as a result, he was uncomfortable and looked erratic which lay credence to his high amount of poor touches stat. He's likely to meet similar high intensity and physically imposing opposition team in the EPL than in Serie A. Likewise Bruno Fernandes. I admit I haven't seen Bruno fernandes' individual touches but the fact that he was underwhelming in the Europa matches and even in the Serie A is worrying for me. Bast dost scored a lot too, didn't he? The point is I won't rate Fernandes' ability as a midfielder while using his goal scoring attributes as a parameter. He's also the team's defacto set pieces taker.
I mean keep in mind he was a kid in the Serie A. Why don't you look at his stats from last season to make a judgment because this season as I mentioned in another post he is a one man team. Teams constantly double mark him or put constant pressure on him because it will nullify our attack.

Bas Dost has scored a lot but to be fair to him even though I am not his biggest fan he was doing it in the Bundesliga as well for a season. Hs issue is not lack of quality because ehe is a fantastic finisher his issue is that the game has evolved from the target man striker. There is not one top team in Europe who uses that kind of striker.
 
Not looking forward to seeing him in this city side.
 
City already have the best squad. If they sign Rodri, Fernandes, Félix and a LB... While we lose De Gea, Pogba and Herrera, then we are not going to be able to be near the title next season.

Fernandes would be a decent Pogba replacement if he decides to go.
 
City already have the best squad. If they sign Rodri, Fernandes, Félix and a LB... While we lose De Gea, Pogba and Herrera, then we are not going to be able to be near the title next season.

Fernandes would be a decent Pogba replacement if he decides to go.

Even Solskjaer has said there's no chance we'll challenge next year anyway. He knows we're not doing enough business this summer.
 
I mean keep in mind he was a kid in the Serie A. Why don't you look at his stats from last season to make a judgment because this season as I mentioned in another post he is a one man team. Teams constantly double mark him or put constant pressure on him because it will nullify our attack.

Bas Dost has scored a lot but to be fair to him even though I am not his biggest fan he was doing it in the Bundesliga as well for a season. Hs issue is not lack of quality because ehe is a fantastic finisher his issue is that the game has evolved from the target man striker. There is not one top team in Europe who uses that kind of striker.

He's not a one man team. The likes of Coates, Gudelj, Dost, Gelson Martin, Nani, Carvalho etc are decent players to have in a team. They may not be better than Porto and Benfica but they are not third in the league for nothing. And I didn't see him getting man-marked while watching their drubbing of Belenensi. He was afforded too much space and no one cared about him. I bet he had a lot of that in the league. Even his compilation highlight didn't show that he was constantly man-marked. He's hardly a player who runs at the opposition yet he loses the ball too much. At least, he should have shown his mettle in the Europa League but he failed to.

This doesn't mean he won't go on to have a blast at City but City already have the template, we don't! Besides, we need a midfielder, not an attacker like him.
 
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