Bruno Fernandes | United not interested due to doubts over passing ability

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SportingCP96 said:
EPL had had games like this too. In fact it is rare in Portugal to have this many goals and in the manner they are. But since the league is not called EPL its shit.
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Didn't mean to criticize the Portuguese league mate. I have no idea about it. Just wanted to check Bruno's hat trick and came across this!
 
SportingCP96 said:
Considering the size of the country the fact we even won something is incredible.

Its ok have fun with the Lingards Rashford and Scott Mctominays of the world. True Class.

When was the last time you beat Portugal again? Since 2000 I only know 1 winner.
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McTominay is Scottish..

We're having fun with the Lingard's and Rashford's don't you worry..:D
 
AgentP said:
Didn't mean to criticize the Portuguese league mate. I have no idea about it. Just wanted to check Bruno's hat trick and came across this!
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No I know! I was just saying In general the consensus is if keepers feck up or whatever in a different league its considered shet but in the EPL is different. OBVIOUSLY Portuguese league is much worse than EPL but results likes these are very rare. Our league is known to be too defensive at times. Especially the smaller clubs.
 
Classical Mechanic said:
Bas Dost has 15 goals in 18(2) games there :nervous:
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He is the definition of a flat track bully. Scores against the little teams and is shet against the bigger ones. The type of striker he is simply does not exist in the modern age anymore.
 
Also I assume after May 25th (the Portuguese cup final) we will begin to see a lot more news pick up steam in terms of where he is going.
 
Peyroteo said:
He’s getting overrated here by @SportingCP96, playing in Portugal for a mediocre Sporting team and in a United team wanting to surpass these Liverpool and City teams is extremely different. Adrien and João Mário were also great and look what happened.

He’s not good enough to be at the very top. He’ll cost 60 million minimum because he’s worth that much to us and we’d be midtable without him... that’s a lot of money for a player that will be a very good option to have but not quite good enough to become an automatic starter and one of the best midfielders in the league. He’d be a signing on the same line as Fekir, great option to have but for the price he’ll cost you’d hope for a player that’s as good as any midfielder in the league imo.

Bruno is a worse version of Kevin De Bruyne, I said earlier Lampard was the closest comparison in terms of style of play but I had forgotten about De Bruyne. That’s definitely the best comparison in terms of style, lots of attacking attributes combined with a great willingness to press the opposition and break on the counter.

Goalscoring is setting him apart but there’s no chance that continues in a proper team. Should go to a team like Arsenal or Napoli rather than to a team with so much pressure to be at the very top.

I really do not believe he’ll be a success in a United shirt if this happens. Some players are just not meant to play at certain clubs and I think that’s one of those cases.
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Classical Mechanic said:
Bas Dost has 15 goals in 18(2) games there :nervous:

Edit: holy crap, he has 76 goals and 8 assists in 81 games there.
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He scores a lot of double goals per match against small teams and he is the PK taker of the team. This kind of strikers actually thrives on second and third tier leagues, where the leverage between top clubs and smaller clubs is bigger than in top leagues, simply because smaller teams will spend 90% of the time with the bus parked but they can't afford quality defenders, so a poacher-type striker will eventually get his chance to score in almost every match.
 
Adnan said:
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As I replied to him at the time.. My track record with judging talent from Portugal in this forum is quite high. Renato Sanches, Joao Mario, Eric Dier, Iuri Medeiros, Gelson, Gaitan etc. I got it nail on the coffin with all of these guys in terms of who would make it and who would not. The only guy I got "wrong" was William Carvalho and I am convinced it is more of a mental thing then anything else because quality wise he can play in the EPL in his sleep and he has shown that against Barca this season among other games.

Nonetheless my track record speaks for itself.

As for Bruno I truly think he has the tools to succeed at a higher level. At City I think he fits like a glove he is a coaches dream to coach. In saying that though I am not saying he will be De Bruyne level at all but he can be a very good player for a good team.
 
André Dominguez said:
He scores a lot of double goals per match against small teams and he is the PK taker of the team. This kind of strikers actually thrives on second and third tier leagues, where the leverage between top clubs and smaller clubs is bigger than in top leagues, simply because smaller teams will spend 90% of the time with the bus parked but they can't afford quality defenders, so a poacher-type striker will eventually get his chance to score in almost every match.
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I hate him. I know it seems stupid to say that to a guy who scores so much but I get so frustrated watching Dost play.
 
crossy1686 said:
The difference between us and City is that their DOF will have been in constant contact with them and his agent, letting him know he's more than welcome there, talking about the package deal they have for him, where he'll be staying when he first moves over, who speaks Portuguese in the squad etc.

We've got Woodward who will come in cold with a contract offer that's probably more than City's and just say 'we're United, sign it'. He hasn't got the time with his current commitments to be keeping tabs on players.
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This is the big problem Yes, We need a DOF Now.
 
Rumors of City including players in the deal and to be honest there are some I would not mind at all.
 
SportingCP96 said:
As I replied to him at the time.. My track record with judging talent from Portugal in this forum is quite high. Renato Sanches, Joao Mario, Eric Dier, Iuri Medeiros, Gelson, Gaitan etc. I got it nail on the coffin with all of these guys in terms of who would make it and who would not. The only guy I got "wrong" was William Carvalho and I am convinced it is more of a mental thing then anything else because quality wise he can play in the EPL in his sleep and he has shown that against Barca this season among other games.

Nonetheless my track record speaks for itself.

As for Bruno I truly think he has the tools to succeed at a higher level. At City I think he fits like a glove he is a coaches dream to coach. In saying that though I am not saying he will be De Bruyne level at all but he can be a very good player for a good team.
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His stats looked rubbish against Porto, Benfica and Arsenal though. That's quite worrying. He even lost the ball 8 times as a result of poor touches in one of the above games and that's not counting the ones he was dispossessed.

I believe he's a poor man's Gylfi sigurdsson because he's also not nimble nor fast.

Your post reminded me of Renato Sanches. He was also lauded by the Portuguese fans (maybe not you) but then, I remembered watching his individual touches and wasn't impressed but afterwards, I saw some dudes on twitter tweeting Van Gaal to not miss out on him and were giving him some accolades, I had to come in after that and gave my opinion about him. I don't know if Van Gaal saw it or not but the most important thing was he wasn't signed however the most annoying was how some of the Portuguese fans were lauding him and almost forced him on us.
 
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I saw him play many times when he was in Italy in Sampdoria and in Udinese. Maybe he has grown and matured, but for me he is a decent player nothing more. It is not with him that we will become a contender.
I wrote the same things about Jorginho a year ago when he went to Chelsea. Obviously they are two different players, just to give an example.
 
jderbyshire said:
https://www.fourfourtwo.com/us/news/bad-news-manchester-united-rivals-close-bruno-fernandes-deal

They're offering a player called Moreno?

I've never heard of him..

Play's for City apparently.
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They bought him in the same window as Jesus. I dont much about him but he was highly rated in Colombia. He's since moving around different leagues on loan. Went to Deportivo, then Girona, then Flamengo in Brazil and Currently at Santos Laguna in the Mexican league. Seems like city took a risk on a cheap youngster and its backfired.

City using him as a sweetener to get Bruno it seems
 
André Dominguez said:
Sporting will not be interested in hiring Marlos Moreno to bring the fee down. I believe they would be much more interested in hiring Matt Smith with a buyback clause rather than having a player who's clearly not showing potential on his loan spells.
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Marlos Moreno playing for Flamengo was inferior to U-17 kids. Unless he progressed a lot in the last months he can not play at any big league in Europe. Imo he can not play in the Brazilian or Argentinian leagues for example.
 
Kaglish10 said:
His stats looked rubbish against Porto, Benfica and Arsenal though. That's quite worrying. He even lost the ball 8 times as a result of poor touches in one of the above games and that's not counting the ones he was dispossessed.

I believe he's a poor man's Gylfi sigurdsson because he's also not nimble nor fast.

Your post reminded me of Renato Sanches. He was also lauded by the Portuguese fans (maybe not you) but then, I remembered watching his individual touches and wasn't impressed but afterwards, I saw some dudes on twitter tweeting Van Gaal to not miss out on him and were giving him some accolades, I had to come in after that and gave my opinion about him. I don't know if Van Gaal saw it or not but the most important thing was he wasn't signed however the most annoying was how some of the Portuguese fans were lauding him and almost forced him on us.
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Once again fair enough and like I said I don’t think Bruno will be a De Bruyne level player but I think he can be a great EPL player. He won’t be the star of your team but a great player there. Very intelligent player has good touch control shot and passing.

Also while the comparison in the derby game are fair it is worth noting that it is literally Bruno +10 the Sporting squad is so bad it hurts. This is a 1 man team and it’s easy for benfica and Porto to neutralize Sporting by double marking him and having him as the focal point to neutralize in Sporting because no one else can make anything happen.

My argument is Bruno is putting up these numbers and doing this in a team that without him would be in 6th place and that is not an exaggeration. Had he played at benfica or Porto I can imagine what he would do.

As for Renato I am with you I never rated him not one bit. The difference between him and Bruno is bruno has good qualities while Renato only had physical strength going for him. Horrible passing average shooting and no tactical awareness. Add to the fact Bruno has had an individual season unlike any other since Mario Jardel in Portugal and that’s compared to all the other talents that have left and succeeded in better leagues.

Which ever way you paint it 50 games 31 goals and 17 assists is remarkable.
 
Charles Miller said:
Marlos Moreno playing for Flamengo was inferior to U-17 kids. Unless he progressed a lot in the last months he can not play at any big league in Europe. Imo he can not play in the Brazilian or Argentinian leagues for example.
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As if Mengão didn't had enough pernas de pau, they had to bare with this guy.
 
I can't blame him moving to Shitty. They are after all the better team
 
We need a playmaker and not just a goal scoring midfielder. City can afford that, we can't.
 
Can’t say I’m surprised. Let’s be honest we’re now 2nd choice for players.

How the mighty have fallen
 
City getting their business done early again because they have a DOF that's most likely been in contact with the player and his reps throughout the season, planning the move.

Meanwhile, Woody's busy sorting out another sponsorship deal and we still haven't identified targets yet.

Just get to feck please?
 
I wasnt that arsed about signing him tbh, but now he's signing for City I am now gutted to be missing out on him :rolleyes:
 
crossy1686 said:
City getting their business done early again because they have a DOF that's most likely been in contact with the player and his reps throughout the season, planning the move.

Meanwhile, Woody's busy sorting out another sponsorship deal and we still haven't identified targets yet.

Just get to feck please?
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Pretty much yeah. It's so fecking obvious obvious we would benefit massively from a good DoF yet Woodward still doesn't see it. It's like he's the only one on the planet who doesn't seem to think it would be a good idea. Well, him and the glazers
 
ArjenIsM3 said:
Pretty much yeah. It's so fecking obvious obvious we would benefit massively from a good DoF yet Woodward still doesn't see it. It's like he's the only one on the planet who doesn't seem to think it would be a good idea. Well, him and the glazers
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There will be no meaningful change as long as fans keep filling Old Trafford. That's the reality of the situation.
 
City winning 2 back to back titles (hopefully) and upgrading constantly. We're handing out contracts to Mata, Jones and Young. What a time to be alive!
 
Cheaper than Fred, right. Expect him to be at least 3x the player.
 
It's sad to say but this transfet became a bit out of our hands the second City got interested.

Guardiola and a winning setup against Ole and the current level of disorganization the club is in.
 
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