You can say the same argument about Fred as well.Doesnt matter - fact is we got to get our transfers 100% correct this summer while City can afford to take a chance .
Bruno Fernandes | United not interested due to doubts over passing ability
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Seen the video. If we sell Pogba, then yes. If PP stays, then no.
Would play him like Firminho. Would suit that role perfectly. Plays to many "blind" passes in dangerous positions for my taste as a midfielder and his touch is not as silky as Felix is. Would buy him just so we don't have to see Young and Rashford at set pieces next season.
Oh, sorry about Bilva there. I'd say Jimenez and Jota have done very well, and Meireles too was good for Liverpool after making the switch from the Portuguese league.
Another point in Fernandes' disfavor is that there is a lot of talent out there in Fernandes' position, but on the point of performance, let's say he managed a third of the output he has in Portugal this season, then it would be better than the likes of Mata, Herrera, McTominay, Fred and Pereira. I'd give him a chance, with or without Pogba.
Sounds like Luckhurst has been scouring Bluemoon to put together an article. A few ITK's have indicated Fernandes is nearly done and then will try to sign Felix.
Haha so we dicked around again and let another club sign our target. Didn't we do the same thing when we were linked with Bernardo Silva?
It's funny, the ones the papers always link to us for ages and ages never seem to actually get signed by us. Almost like the interest wasn't that serious.
How does Bruno compare to Bernadro? Are they similar at all?
I can only think maybe we were worried Pogba was going to leave so he'd be a replacement, or perhaps the old "manchester want them" meant they thought it was us, but actually it was City all along.We got Sanchez though so who's the real winner
Meh, if we get Sancho and Koulibaly then i'll be happy.
I think we would be daft to not be interested regardless of Pogba staying. If we had an Aguero type I would be less worried but we need a lot more goals and creativity plus we need to play with more than one midfielder who can create and score. We have the most limited CMs excluding Pogba of the top 6 in my opinion. Mata and Lingard all very underwhelming and the reason we have two more defensively inclinded CMs playing is because our defenders are substandard. However you could be right though and we have no interest in him whatsoever. United just baffle me to be fair.
As for Sancho and Koulibaly we would probably need to use our entire transfer kitty to get their clubs to sell and with no CL to offer I doubt they would be that keen anyway.
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Nah. Both hardworkers but Bruno is less composed and easy on the eye than Bernardo.
Bruno has very good technique and intelligence while being quite resillient but i always worry with these kind of players as their game really shines when they are mentally well. While players with other toolsets like power, speed, reflexes, ball carrying, etc, would adapt easier as their ability would give them an advantage irrrespective of context.
He's a good or even excellent player for the Portuguêse league once he adapted but it's also the sort of player you should be able to find and nurture domestically.
Maybe we can offer him a huge salary.
Anytime!
#prayforfoden
Come on people.How is Ed supposed to sell a player who looks like the real-life equivalent of Cletus Spuckler?
You cant.Its unpossible.
You cant.Its unpossible.
How many games has he played as a midfielder? Only handful and yet, we think he take over from Pogba or play with him in a 3 man midfield .
What's that got to do with what you said? You said there's too much play and not enough seriousness because of Pogba. That's what I was calling out. I agree that we lack cohesion, but a big reason that we rely on Pogba is because we don't have enough quality elsewhere.
Not a chance we get both. Dont really think we are super invested in Koulibaly anyway. Sancho is the dream but not sure if it's possible this summer. Meunier at right back is a smart signing and at the right age with Dalot being young. Right wing is needed of course, but we'll see who we can get. If we sort out the midfield (buying a #6 and a #8 basically) then with those 4 the biggest issues I think would be addressed.
Personally think a dream/realistic window would be the 5 of Sancho, Neves, Tielemans, Meunier and Alderweireld. 3 of those wont cost too much, probably a combined 100m max between Tielemans, Meunier and Alderweireld. Sancho is probably £120m or so of course, while Neves is perfect for a holding midfielder and he'd be ~£60m I would guess. A window like that would address all our needs this season and would complete our team IMO. Problem is that we have others like Lukaku, pogba, de gea, plenty of depth players who might be leaving so that also needs replacing. Given we need 5 starters but will likely get 4 though, Koulibaly just isn't looking realistic IMO.
He is 25, is it? Wow - thats some late bloom.!
We have no actual proof that United/Ole are even interested in the guy...so talk of United losing another target to City is daft.
But people see what they want to see.
But people see what they want to see.
Felix should be our dream, Sancho should move next summer I feel.
Only real football club with ambition will get him and that means it won't be us. The closer we close this thread the better.
“ So you’re telling me that we sent a scout to every Sporting Lisbon game this season to watch Bruno Fernandes just for him to go to Manchester City?
This club never fails to amaze me ”
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...the state of our once juggernaut global club. Such a shame.
This club never fails to amaze me ”
twitter.com/vintage_utd/status/1124347852212318211?s=21
...the state of our once juggernaut global club. Such a shame.
From what I've seen Bruno is less of a iniesta style close control dribbler than Bernardo, if you know what I mean. More of a conventional attacking midfielder than a winger-through-the-middle. Aaron Ramsey type perhaps?
Plenty like that now. Salah and mane for instance. Tactics makes or breaks a lot of players.
That's my dream. Felix this summer, Sancho next summer. Only because of timing, rather than priority.
So Portuguese newspaper Abola clarified the buy out clause situation.
The buy out clause is in fact still 100M, The 35M in question was a clause put in that if Sporting received an offer of 35M (or higher) and it is rejected they would have to pay Bruno Fernandes a compensation fee.
More reports also state that City already have a contract offer in place for Bruno Fernandes.
The buy out clause is in fact still 100M, The 35M in question was a clause put in that if Sporting received an offer of 35M (or higher) and it is rejected they would have to pay Bruno Fernandes a compensation fee.
More reports also state that City already have a contract offer in place for Bruno Fernandes.
I prefer Kai Havertz over Bruno any day (Looks like he is one in a generation intellectual midfielder)
Kai will be our prime Toni Kroos.
Havertz, Barella in this window would fix our midfield for good along with defence reinforcements like Toby,WBS and Deligt/Manolas.
Most of these targets are gettable except Deligt. what we are waiting for ?
We made mistakes on Prime Alexis/Hazard/Thiago/Vidal/Kante/Bernard in the past, Hope we learned from that and act quick now.
Last year Ed informed Herrera about his 1 year activation through post (sent the extension letter to Herrera's house). Common isn't that a clear disrespect to the player always showed passion to UTD and tried his best when ever he played?
Kai will be our prime Toni Kroos.
Havertz, Barella in this window would fix our midfield for good along with defence reinforcements like Toby,WBS and Deligt/Manolas.
Most of these targets are gettable except Deligt. what we are waiting for ?
We made mistakes on Prime Alexis/Hazard/Thiago/Vidal/Kante/Bernard in the past, Hope we learned from that and act quick now.
Last year Ed informed Herrera about his 1 year activation through post (sent the extension letter to Herrera's house). Common isn't that a clear disrespect to the player always showed passion to UTD and tried his best when ever he played?
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The state of tweets from people who haven't a clue. That tweet doesn't even make any sense.
You know we have over 50 scouts who attend every game or every top club in Portugal, France etc. Do you think we're meant to sign a player from every one of those clubs?
Announce Bruno!
Apart from his outrageous ability to strike a ball. The rest of his game doesn't look anything special. City are gonna sign him as a back up I'd imagine.
Talk about kneejerk reaction! You and the guy who posted that tweet
I mean City are reported to be the favourites atm and that it’s close.
And with Ole recently coming out in an interview and saying the club has made an offer to Mata, you can already begin to see the writing on the wall.
...just trying to logically piece things together. Doesn’t look favourable for United right now.
Just rumors, but I understand where you're coming from seeing how this club does business. United did sign Fred and Sanchez when City were actually the only teams rumored to be after them for a while.
The club have already made offers to Mata. This isn't new information, nor does it change anything when it comes to transfer targets. This is simply the last offer they'll make him. They've been in negotiations over this for a while. It's unrelated to whether or not we're bringing in new players.
Ole sounds like a manager just selling us a piped dream that we will end up with probably a couple signings. He’s been saying the whole time that we’ve got amazing players and that we need a good preseason under our belt to magically transform us into title contenders. Don’t trust anything about this club anymore. The fact that we are considering Rio for the sporting director job makes me think we’re trying to cut some corners yet again.
He has never said that the players are so amazing that they only need a good pre-season to be title contenders. He's said the exact opposite. He's talked about signings, about the current squad not reaching the standards required. And he's talked about not being magically transformed into title contenders over one transfer window. He's not selling anything but a restrained version of the truth. He's not going to talk in any detail about transfer targets with the press and it's utterly mental to expect him to. Just as it's mental to expect him to shit on his players in public, even if he thinks they're wank. The stuff about Rio is unsubstantiated and not a 'fact' at all. Like literally everything else in the press, including the 5000 players we're 100% in for/lost out on/considering/scouting/definitely-maybe liking on instagram. Just like Fernandes.
Coming out and saying all the players are shit and can feck off at the end of the season, isn’t really going to inspire them to give their all for the cause.
Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think a manager should have to motivate a professional footballer, but you can facilitate peak performance or demotivate if you get it wrong.
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