Canagel
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No, he was our best midfielder. so good he ended up in China at 30 years old and heading for early retirement.Were you in hibernation? Useless lump was moved on last Jan.
No, he was our best midfielder. so good he ended up in China at 30 years old and heading for early retirement.Were you in hibernation? Useless lump was moved on last Jan.
No, he was our best midfielder. so good he ended up in China at 30 years old and heading for early retirement.
i haven't watched alot of sporting games to be fair. Mostly the international games. I'm sure you've been watching him far more often, but i'm not sold on him.Off of what basis is this exactly? Have you seen him play to make such a bold assessment?
Lingard has been a starter and prominent player at United and he isn't fit to lace Brunos cleats.
Ross Barkley starts at Chelsea is he better than bruno?
Like I said 50M for a player of his quality is daylight robbery at its finest.
In two weeks lad, be realistic with this board and Ed. That's not happening unfortunately.Fernandes and SMS for Pogba’s money, it could be good for us.
Then sell Lukaku, to get Dybala (who we seem to be interested in).
Get Maguire, and we should be set for the start of the season.
I would take that besides SMS as I've never seen him play although some rate him highly. Instead of SMS on that list I would put a defensive midfielder to rotate with and eventually replace Matic when his contract expires in the summer. Although I think that would put us in a decent situation as the league starts, I don't think that would happen at all due to the pace we have been working at in the transfer market and also because the club said we are working on one transfer at a time.Fernandes and SMS for Pogba’s money, it could be good for us.
Then sell Lukaku, to get Dybala (who we seem to be interested in).
Get Maguire, and we should be set for the start of the season.
I would have loved to get rid of all that deadwood and reinvested the money back into transfers but I think we struggle to get rid of the deadwood due to the extremely high wages we pay them, I don't think other teams are going to pay. I think Darmian will go for free when his contract expires next summer and I think the only way we are going to get rid of a lot of deadwood is only when their contracts expire meaning we lose millions in transfer fees but eventually manage to get them off the books.Maguire alone is not enough, simple as that. Besides we have more than 150m worth of deadwood there to sell (should the management actually want to do some work in this regard).
We should be intending to bring in both Fernandes and Milenkovic Savic. We need 2 midfielders and these 2 would compliment what we want.
A box to box midfielder and an Attacking Midfielder.
You are seeing different than everyone else then. Fred's passing is terrible, and it keeps getting us caught out. He is not a good tackler either. A good midfielder needs these attributes first and foremost. I am keeping a close eye on him again this season to see if anything has improved. If not we should sell him off.i haven't watched alot of sporting games to be fair. Mostly the international games. I'm sure you've been watching him far more often, but i'm not sold on him.
And with that i mean i dont see the hype that people in here and on social media give him. I think he's a good player but if you buy a player for 50 or 60 million you except a real baller and people will have unrealistic expectations of him. Take Fred as an exemple. In my opinion he was quite decent last season under Ole consedering his confidence was shot under Mourinho.
But alot of fans think that he's a flop and should not start this season.
A top club needs 6 midfielders in their squad, and these should be top midfielders for a top club.It’s just not realistic, even if Pogba was sold we wouldn’t buy both.
I think Fred needs a good season this season, no excuses. He's had his season to settle in, if he doesn't produce the goods this season, I think he should be sold next summer.You are seeing different than everyone else then. Fred's passing is terrible, and it keeps getting us caught out. He is not a good tackler either. A good midfielder needs these attributes first and foremost. I am keeping a close eye on him again this season to see if anything has improved. If not we should sell him off.
Agree with this but the rate we are moving at I can't see us getting another midfielder this transfer window which worries me as I feel we may struggle if we don't.A top club needs 6 midfielders in their squad, and these should be top midfielders for a top club.
If we don't bring in at least 1 midfielder we will be in trouble when injuries start hitting us. What if both Pogba and McTominay were injured at the same time and were out for 6/7 weeks. Look at who we have left to play in the most important area of the pitch. To me these are the only 2 midfielders that are good enough for United. If Pogba goes then we are in a mess, unless we have someone lined up now.Agree with this but the rate we are moving at I can't see us getting another midfielder this transfer window which worries me as I feel we may struggle if we don't.
I agree with your post and I mentioned to some poster yesterday that if Pogba has an injury we are going to be screwed. If what you mentioned in bold happened, that is seriously going to affect our chances of doing well this season. It's as if anyone besides Woody can see the areas that we need improving. I feel that the owners think we have a squad capable of getting into the top 4 as it is, which I think we don't or even worse they may not care about getting into the top 4 as long as the money keeps on rolling in.If we don't bring in at least 1 midfielder we will be in trouble when injuries start hitting us. What if both Pogba and McTominay were injured at the same time and were out for 6/7 weeks. Look at who we have left to play in the most important area of the pitch. To me these are the only 2 midfielders that are good enough for United. If Pogba goes then we are in a mess, unless we have someone lined up now.
If we don't bring in at least 1 midfielder we will be in trouble when injuries start hitting us. What if both Pogba and McTominay were injured at the same time and were out for 6/7 weeks. Look at who we have left to play in the most important area of the pitch. To me these are the only 2 midfielders that are good enough for United. If Pogba goes then we are in a mess, unless we have someone lined up now.
Garner is a very good player and I hope he goes on to play for us for years to come, but he is not ready to burden the responsibility of playing DM yet.Yeah we are in dire need of midfielders. Even if Pogba stays. I am very keen on Garner for us in the future but I reckon it’s to early to count on him fully already.
Fernandes and SMS for Pogba’s money, it could be good for us.
Then sell Lukaku, to get Dybala (who we seem to be interested in).
Get Maguire, and we should be set for the start of the season.
Woody will be in for a heck of a bonus if he can manage a positive net spend and still somehow finish top four!Not a chance will they re-invest that money.
Straight into the trousers.
I agree , he's not good enough even though he does run his legs off.You are seeing different than everyone else then. Fred's passing is terrible, and it keeps getting us caught out. He is not a good tackler either. A good midfielder needs these attributes first and foremost. I am keeping a close eye on him again this season to see if anything has improved. If not we should sell him off.
You are seeing different than everyone else then. Fred's passing is terrible, and it keeps getting us caught out. He is not a good tackler either. A good midfielder needs these attributes first and foremost. I am keeping a close eye on him again this season to see if anything has improved. If not we should sell him off.
Tackle is more for the defenders, since they are the last line and they will have to resort more to tackles to cut crosses / shots / make fouls / etc.
A midfielder should only tackle to make a deliberate foul or if he is 99% sure he gets the ball. A tackle means the midfielder will be on the ground and we will have one less player to contribute to team pressing, leaving the opposition with more space to exploit.
IMHO a midfielder defensive duties should be closing down the space and the passing lines. Being a good tackler is a good bonus, but they should not commit to tackling much often, mainly because if he mistimes the tackle it will mean we will have one less player to contribute to team pressing during some seconds, leaving the opposition with more space to exploit. This can be fatal against teams who rely on pressure or are effective on fast transitions.
Utter Rubbish, You would have them playing like 7 year olds.Tackle is more for the defenders, since they are the last line and they will have to resort more to tackles to cut crosses / shots / make fouls / etc.
A midfielder should only tackle to make a deliberate foul or if he is 99% sure he gets the ball. A tackle means the midfielder will be on the ground and we will have one less player to contribute to team pressing, leaving the opposition with more space to exploit.
IMHO a midfielder defensive duties should be closing down the space and the passing lines. Being a good tackler is a good bonus, but they should not commit to tackling much often, mainly because if he mistimes the tackle it will mean we will have one less player to contribute to team pressing during some seconds, leaving the opposition with more space to exploit. This can be fatal against teams who rely on pressure or are effective on fast transitions.
A midfielder should only tackle to make a deliberate foul or if he is 99% sure he gets the ball. A tackle means the midfielder will be on the ground and we will have one less player to contribute to team pressing, leaving the opposition with more space to exploit.
He scored 25 goals, 7 of them are penalties iirc. So 18 goals excluding penalties.How many goals did Fernandes score last season (not including penalties)?
He scored 25 goals, 7 of them are penalties iirc. So 18 goals excluding penalties.
I agree with this to some extent but to say a midfielder shouldn't tackle is absurd. So do you want your midfielders to press and watch the other team have the ball??
Someone should have told Roy Keane this, he'd have been a much better player!
You wouldn't necessarily lose the midfielder all the time, as a lot of the time when Radja Nainggolan made tackles, he was getting the ball then immediately starting the attack.Tackle is more for the defenders, since they are the last line and they will have to resort more to tackles to cut crosses / shots / make fouls / etc.
A midfielder should only tackle to make a deliberate foul or if he is 99% sure he gets the ball. A tackle means the midfielder will be on the ground and we will have one less player to contribute to team pressing, leaving the opposition with more space to exploit.
IMHO a midfielder defensive duties should be closing down the space and the passing lines. Being a good tackler is a good bonus, but they should not commit to tackling much often, mainly because if he mistimes the tackle it will mean we will have one less player to contribute to team pressing during some seconds, leaving the opposition with more space to exploit. This can be fatal against teams who rely on pressure or are effective on fast transitions.
You wouldn't necessarily lose the midfielder all the time, as a lot of the time when Radja Nainggolan made tackles, he was getting the ball then immediately starting the attack.
I don't think so, hope so.Anyone think we will sign him before deadline.
We were utter fools if we miss the chance to sign him