Gabriel Djemba-Bebe
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But... but his pass completion percentage isn't very high!!
You're right, the sarcasm is justified. Whatever he's doing is clearly working for us.But... but his pass completion percentage isn't very high!!
You're right - those stats prove he's the main problem and once we get rid of him we'll see our other players flourish.You're right, the sarcasm is justified. Whatever he's doing is clearly working for us.
Right, you're being facetious because I was facetious. Touché. My point is it's a team game, he's our main man and it's not working. A decrease in his expected assists or successful passes into the box stats or whatever in favour of us having a bit more control of games seems desirable at the moment, no? Unless he wants to frame those beautiful stats and spend his declining years gazing fondly at them over the fireplace. He strikes me as a man that would prefer some actual medals.You're right - those stats prove he's the main problem and once we get rid of him we'll see our other players flourish.
We can still control games with him in our team. When a team is underperforming, it's rare that the solution is to drop the main man. That will likely lead us to looking even more toothless in attack.Right, you're being facetious because I was facetious. Touché. My point is it's a team game, he's our main man and it's not working. A decrease in his expected assists or successful passes into the box stats or whatever in favour of us having a bit more control of games seems desirable at the moment, no? Unless he wants to frame those beautiful stats and spend his declining years gazing fondly at them over the fireplace. He strikes me as a man that would prefer some actual medals.
Right, you're being facetious because I was facetious. Touché. My point is it's a team game, he's our main man and it's not working. A decrease in his expected assists or successful passes into the box stats or whatever in favour of us having a bit more control of games seems desirable at the moment, no? Unless he wants to frame those beautiful stats and spend his declining years gazing fondly at them over the fireplace. He strikes me as a man that would prefer some actual medals.
So many issues with this.That depends on whether you think Bruno is the main (or even an important) factor in our lack of control.
To me it looks much more like the problems start in deeper areas of the pitch, with our lack of a settled back four and central midfielders who don’t track runs and give the ball away almost as much as the players whose primary role is to create. Fix those problems and there’s a good chance Bruno’s strengths will hugely outweigh his flaws.
It’s not as though we haven’t seen what this looks like. When Casemiro is on top of his game (depressingly rarely) or Fred had one of his superman performances, along withour first choice back four available/playing well we look like a top quality team. Nobody moans about Bruno on the rare occasions that all of this happens.
Well yeah, Pogue, if Casemiro improves it has an effect, ditto our defence but this is precisely the problem. Everyone has to get better, adapt, change a bit. Our midfield is totally dysfunctional at the moment. Bruno can't be the same player he is when we're in full flow. He has to be a different player right now. If the opposition are ripping us open every time we lose the ball we have to try to lose the ball less, no? In our current incarnation, he's a liability. Is there a way of him not being a liability? He's our captain. It's up to him to find a way of leading out there. The narrative of all of that being on Ten Hag or Casemiro or whoever is too simplistic.That depends on whether you think Bruno is the main (or even an important) factor in our lack of control.
To me it looks much more like the problems start in deeper areas of the pitch, with our lack of a settled back four and central midfielders who don’t track runs and give the ball away almost as much as the players whose primary role is to create. Fix those problems and there’s a good chance Bruno’s strengths will hugely outweigh his flaws.
It’s not as though we haven’t seen what this looks like. When Casemiro is on top of his game (depressingly rarely) or Fred had one of his superman performances, along withour first choice back four available/playing well we look like a top quality team. Nobody moans about Bruno on the rare occasions that all of this happens.
Well yeah, Pogue, if Casemiro improves it has an effect, ditto our defence but this is precisely the problem. Everyone has to get better, adapt, change a bit. Our midfield is totally dysfunctional at the moment. Bruno can't be the same player he is when we're in full flow. He has to be a different player right now. If the opposition are ripping us open every time we lose the ball we have to try to lose the ball less, no? In our current incarnation, he's a liability. Is there a way of him not being a liability? He's our captain. It's up to him to find a way of leading out there. The narrative of all of that being on Ten Hag or Casemiro or whoever is too simplistic.
He is the poster boy for “dont look at the stats”. Because add some dribbling completion to this list and his stats read like prime Messi.
Agreed. His best season for us came when Greenwood, Cavani and an in-form Rashford were making runs either side of him and stretching defences. Antony doesn't have the pace to make those kind of runs and Rashford seems to be suffering from a lack of confidence, so at the moment we're seeing Bruno forcing passes that aren't there. Although I'm confident we'll see him get plenty of assists for Hojlund the more they get used to each other's game.Tbf put him in a better team and he wouldn't be prime Messi but he would score more often and have a scary number of assists.
He has issues with his lack of physicality but outside of that I think people are watching a player too good for the team he's in trying to force the issue, and mistaking it for him not being very good. Although I agree he is infuriating at times.
If Bruno was in a team with forwards who created and scored goals regularly, and a midfield/defence that could control possession, my guess is his decision making would be a LOT better, and he'd also have more space to operate in.
You just need to look at how often he plays Rashford in when Rashford is on form. Imagine that but in a team where he would have 3 forwards making those runs who are all capable of sticking the ball in the net. Or even the spells at United where he had Rashford, Martial, Greenwood, Cavani, etc.
He's a creative player so if the forward pass option isn't there he has a tendancy to try and force it, but a big part of the problem is why the option is so rarely there in the first place
Will Ten Hag "die" on the Bruno hill? It seems inevitable at this point.
Same here... Think, it was beyond bizarre that he wasn't the one going off when Eriksen came on. McTom wasn't great either, could've brought on Meijbri and Mount at the same time. The whole team isn't clicking right now, I think, the only chance ETH has, is to really drop a signal here, either bench Bruno or Rashford. It clearly isn't working. Those two might turn out the anchor dragging the manager down eventually...Meh, Bruno being Bruno, it's on the manager that keeps playing him. It's not like we don't have options now.
What do you think about our next manager? How will he deal with Bruno(whoever that new manager is)?Yes. Just as Ole did.
What do you think about our next manager? How will he deal with Bruno(whoever that is)?
Make a prediction.