[Desert Eagle]

Go back and watch some of the performances the lads of the 90s would serve up. All is forgotten because they won but regularly they would serve up dreck. Giggs is a prime example of a player who went weeks and months without effecting a game and getting dropped.

Go back and watch Brunos performances this season or last season or the season before that.
Can't have been performing that badly if they won the league every other year. Bruno doesn't compare to shite like Odegaard let alone a legend like Giggs. Maybe if the guy played 20 years at the top level winning everything multiple times people would forgive him a few weeks and months of poor performances but it's actually the opposite. We're supposed to call him a winner even though he rarely wins and has never won a big trophy.

Giggs was regularly criticized on here and never protected like Bruno. Its because we were so good , no one felt the need to get overly defensive or attached to a player with the possible exception of Cantona. With Bruno though after being poor the majority of the season all it takes is one month of decent play for the idiots to come rushing out in defense of their hero. Superb, heart of everything, played incredibly well, lucky to have him. Clowns deserve the circus.

People want to praise Bruno for his stats: First it was goals then that dried up so it became assists or goal contributions then that dried up so now it's chance creation, ignoring the fact that he is one of the key reasons we've had such terrible seasons that past three years. He is the player who has played the most during that time but somehow he is absolved of all the blame? If only he had better managers or better strikers ? How many managers and strikers has he had? He made the difference at home to Sheffield United; What a maestro, then proceeds to make no difference against Burnley at home.

People will only realise he is a fraud when he is replaced and that day will be a beautiful one. Just like the De Gea fan club eventually realised about 3-4 years too late, it will be the same with Bruno. His contract runs out in 26/27 and instead of being smart and getting rid of an asset that is only going to depreciate , you can be sure there will be idiots clamoring for him to stay on to do the Juan Mata. Please Bruno teach our youngsters how to come 4th and win the carabao cup

 

[Jeppers7]

Go back and watch some of the performances the lads of the 90s would serve up. All is forgotten because they won but regularly they would serve up dreck. Giggs is a prime example of a player who went weeks and months without effecting a game and getting dropped.

Are you serious? Wow.

 

[Jeppers7]

He’s finishing the season really well. I honestly feel this is the best I’ve seen him play consistently since his first twelve months. Still a big opportunity to get Amad in at the end that he should have executed but this is the thing for me…I value performance and when the performance is good I can easily accept not everything will come off.

Perhaps those who oppose my opinion have the opposite view? They don’t value performance and instead just look at what has come off?

 

[Jeppers7]

Go back and watch Brunos performances this season or last season or the season before that.
Can't have been performing that badly if they won the league every other year. Bruno doesn't compare to shite like Odegaard let alone a legend like Giggs. Maybe if the guy played 20 years at the top level winning everything multiple times people would forgive him a few weeks and months of poor performances but it's actually the opposite. We're supposed to call him a winner even though he rarely wins and has never won a big trophy.

Giggs was regularly criticized on here and never protected like Bruno. Its because we were so good , no one felt the need to get overly defensive or attached to a player with the possible exception of Cantona. With Bruno though after being poor the majority of the season all it takes is one month of decent play for the idiots to come rushing out in defense of their hero. Superb, heart of everything, played incredibly well, lucky to have him. Clowns deserve the circus.

People want to praise Bruno for his stats: First it was goals then that dried up so it became assists or goal contributions then that dried up so now it's chance creation, ignoring the fact that he is one of the key reasons we've had such terrible seasons that past three years. He is the player who has played the most during that time but somehow he is absolved of all the blame? If only he had better managers or better strikers ? How many managers and strikers has he had? He made the difference at home to Sheffield United; What a maestro, then proceeds to make no difference against Burnley at home.

People will only realise he is a fraud when he is replaced and that day will be a beautiful one. Just like the De Gea fan club eventually realised about 3-4 years too late, it will be the same with Bruno. His contract runs out in 26/27 and instead of being smart and getting rid of an asset that is only going to depreciate , you can be sure there will be idiots clamoring for him to stay on to do the Juan Mata. Please Bruno teach our youngsters how to come 4th and win the carabao cup

Funny thing is that his defenders are now out in force eulogizing over his performances….in the same team with the same manager, while we as a team are still struggling. Maybe Bruno is responsible for his own performances, nobody else.

 

[Desert Eagle]

Funny thing is that his defenders are now out in force eulogizing over his performances….in the same team with the same manager, while we as a team are still struggling. Maybe Bruno is responsible for his own performances, nobody else.

Yeah crazy to think the guy that plays every game, takes all the set pieces, is captain and plays in the position that sees most of the ball has some responsibility for his teams performances.

 

[Jeppers7]

Yeah crazy to think the guy that plays every game, takes all the set pieces, is captain and plays in the position that sees most of the ball has some responsibility for his teams performances.

Even if you disregard that…players like Garnacho, Mainoo, Hojlund have carried us at times this season yet are blamed by Bruno’s fans for Bruno’s performances. It can’t work just one way. If he’s capable of playing well for a month in a struggling team, like others have shown this season, then he’s responsible for the 7 months of shocking performances….nobody else.

 

[Gabriel Djemba-Bebe]

There’s a poster so enamored with Bruno that he’s giving him player of the season, in fact he was doing so in January…He claims he’s on par with KDB.

Not the most ridiculous of claims. Iirc, he was putting forward his player of the season in the 'best player of the season so far' thread. Not sure why that's worthy of ridicule.

 

[TMDaines]

Probably playing his best football since his first 18 months. Shame he’s feeding a very dysfunctional front three.

 

[Bullsick]

Probably playing his best football since his first 18 months. Shame he’s feeding a very dysfunctional front three.

Shame HE'S feeding them indeed.....

 

[Murder on Zidanes Floor]

Go back and watch Brunos performances this season or last season or the season before that.
Can't have been performing that badly if they won the league every other year. Bruno doesn't compare to shite like Odegaard let alone a legend like Giggs. Maybe if the guy played 20 years at the top level winning everything multiple times people would forgive him a few weeks and months of poor performances but it's actually the opposite. We're supposed to call him a winner even though he rarely wins and has never won a big trophy.

Giggs was regularly criticized on here and never protected like Bruno. Its because we were so good , no one felt the need to get overly defensive or attached to a player with the possible exception of Cantona. With Bruno though after being poor the majority of the season all it takes is one month of decent play for the idiots to come rushing out in defense of their hero. Superb, heart of everything, played incredibly well, lucky to have him. Clowns deserve the circus.

People want to praise Bruno for his stats: First it was goals then that dried up so it became assists or goal contributions then that dried up so now it's chance creation, ignoring the fact that he is one of the key reasons we've had such terrible seasons that past three years. He is the player who has played the most during that time but somehow he is absolved of all the blame? If only he had better managers or better strikers ? How many managers and strikers has he had? He made the difference at home to Sheffield United; What a maestro, then proceeds to make no difference against Burnley at home.

People will only realise he is a fraud when he is replaced and that day will be a beautiful one. Just like the De Gea fan club eventually realised about 3-4 years too late, it will be the same with Bruno. His contract runs out in 26/27 and instead of being smart and getting rid of an asset that is only going to depreciate , you can be sure there will be idiots clamoring for him to stay on to do the Juan Mata. Please Bruno teach our youngsters how to come 4th and win the carabao cup

Agenda posting of the highest order. Without him, we literally wouldn't get out of the bottom half of the table.

Bruno protected, honestly, you're posting like you cycle without a helmet.

 

[Desert Eagle]

Agenda posting of the highest order. Without him, we literally wouldn't get out of the bottom half of the table.

Bruno protected, honestly, you're posting like you cycle without a helmet.

Sure buddy. Go on believing in the fiction of what we'd be like without him. With him playing every game the fact is we're about to have our second worst ever PL finish only beat by another season this one man team guy shat the bed.

 

[Murder on Zidanes Floor]

Sure buddy. Go on believing in the fiction of what we'd be like without him. With him playing every game the fact is we're about to have our second worst ever PL finish only beat by another season this one man team guy shat the bed.

Imagine we spunked £70m on a guy with a stress fracture in his back who's never scored more than 10 league goals in his career, signing a midfielder for £60m who doesn't play and thinking Bruno is what's holding us back

 

[Desert Eagle]

Imagine we spunked £70m on a guy with a stress fracture in his back who's never scored more than 10 league goals in his career, signing a midfielder for £60m who doesn't play and thinking Bruno is what's holding us back

Imagine a season where Bruno played almost every game and those two signings hadn't even occurred yet. Oh right i don't need to imagine it, it ended in our worst PL season ever. Who were you blaming then? Probably not Bruno eh.

 

[Gabriel Djemba-Bebe]

With him playing every game the fact is we're about to have our second worst ever PL finish only beat by another season this one man team guy shat the bed.

What sort of logic is this?! You'll be in for a shock when you see some of our league finishes with Bryan Robson in midfield.

 

[Murder on Zidanes Floor]

Imagine a season where Bruno played almost every game and those two signings hadn't even occurred yet. Oh right i don't need to imagine it, it ended in our worst PL season ever. Who were you blaming then? Probably not Bruno eh.

Blaming one player who contributes the most for the team for that team being crap

 

[Murder on Zidanes Floor]

What sort of logic is this?! You'll be in for a shock when you see some of our league finishes with Bryan Robson in midfield.

I imagine he thinks if we'd played Mount in his place we'd be challenging

 

[Grande]

Probably playing his best football since his first 18 months. Shame he’s feeding a very dysfunctional front three.

I agree he is brilliant lately. We have also veen scoring quite a bit lately. Yesterday our front three should have had maybe three goals in the first half, another three in the second. The upside looking forward is that these attackers are an overplayed 19-year old, an overplayed 21-year old, an underplayed 21-year old returning from an injury and a 24-year old possibly returning from a personality crisis. If these players grow and develop, and are added to so we have six/seven good options in attack instead of two, it might look much better given not so much time.

 

[SATA]

Bruno is now being called a fraud on the Caf, and I thought i heard it all here

 

[Andersons Dietician]

Last 2 games he’s shown signs of getting back to his best. Massive improvement from him recently. Take out the goals he has scored as to not cloud any judgment and he has still been impressive. Doesn’t seem to be trying as many hollywood passes and not taking on as many shots as usual.

Greatly improved

 

[Parma Dewol]

Bruno is now being called a fraud on the Caf, and I thought i heard it all here

It’s the in word for 2024 name calling. Get with the programme you woke snowflake.

 

[Desert Eagle]

Blaming one player who contributes the most for the team for that team being crap

Contributes the most to what? A crap team. Without him at the heart of our attack we can become less crap. Shame some united fans care more about an individual players stats than team success.

I imagine he thinks if we'd played Mount in his place we'd be challenging

Bruno not being good enough and our team being crap in terms of other players or the manager are not mutually exclusive ideas. Both can be true.

 

[Murder on Zidanes Floor]

Contributes the most to what? A crap team. Without him at the heart of our attack we can become less crap. Shame some united fans care more about an individual players stats than team success.



Bruno not being good enough and our team being crap in terms of other players or the manager are not mutually exclusive ideas. Both can be true.

It's just wild. You just don't like him so you point blame onto him.

 

[Desert Eagle]

It's just wild. You just don't like him so you point blame onto him.

I blame a bunch of players including Bruno and the manager and the owners. You just don't like it when certain players are criticized.

 

[#07]

And yet we're struggling for a positive goal difference. Says a lot.

 

[LordSpud]

And yet we're struggling for a positive goal difference. Says a lot.

Yep, this is what happens when you have a play a makeshift back 4 for 90% of the season. You concede loads.

 

[Murder on Zidanes Floor]

I blame a bunch of players including Bruno and the manager and the owners. You just don't like it when certain players are criticized.

Can criticise him, go ahead. But it's just weird he is the main focus of your ire.

 

[The Mitcher]

Yep, this is what happens when you have a play a makeshift back 4 for 90% of the season. You concede loads.

No, it's when you have an extremely open formation that exposes the defence.

 

[#07]

Yep, this is what happens when you have a play a makeshift back 4 for 90% of the season. You concede loads.

We don't score enough goals. Bruno has the highest expected assist count in Europe's top leagues but he doesn't have the highest number of assists. People are wasting good opportunities too often. Even on Saturday we saw that a couple of times.

If we were taking our chances we'd be killing games before the opposition could exploit our defensive vulnerabilities. Of course, nobody takes every chance every game. But Bruno's making at least 2-3 very presentable chances a match.

Against Burnley and Sheffield United we should've turned our early dominance into goals. We didn't, it helps them build confidence, they score, we panic. Week after week the same story plays out.

I am not a fan of Ten Hag's high risk tactics but the difference between us and Liverpool, pre-Van Dijk and Alisson, is that they consistently took their chances. Salah, Mane and Firmino could be trusted to make even low xG chances into something. Our finishing has been woeful. A lot of stuff gets tamely passed into the gloves of the opposition goalie.

 

[Jeppers7]

We don't score enough goals. Bruno has the highest expected assist count in Europe's top leagues but he doesn't have the highest number of assists. People are wasting good opportunities too often. Even on Saturday we saw that a couple of times.

If we were taking our chances we'd be killing games before the opposition could exploit our defensive vulnerabilities. Of course, nobody takes every chance every game. But Bruno's making at least 2-3 very presentable chances a match.

Against Burnley and Sheffield United we should've turned our early dominance into goals. We didn't, it helps them build confidence, they score, we panic. Week after week the same story plays out.

I am not a fan of Ten Hag's high risk tactics but the difference between us and Liverpool, pre-Van Dijk and Alisson, is that they consistently took their chances. Salah, Mane and Firmino could be trusted to make even low xG chances into something. Our finishing has been woeful. A lot of stuff gets tamely passed into the gloves of the opposition goalie.

Do you think Bruno has played well this season?

 

[El Jefe]

I think some of you underestimate the impact of Bruno not having better players around him actually pumping up his stats.

His worst year for goal contributions since being here is when we had our most loaded set of attackers. Ronaldo Cavani, Sancho, Rashford, Greenwood, Martial and Pogba. There was a clear move in this season to prioritise other players (Ronaldo) and inevitably it reduces the amount of play through Bruno.

Look at Grealish at Villa or when KDB plays and when he doesn’t. If you surround Bruno with better players than him, less of the play will go through him which could possibly see his stats reduce. Right now absolutely everything goes through and he plays every second of every match. Yes he’s a very creative player but the circumstance he’s in plays a big role in his numbers.

The last time we had as much play go through an individual player as long as this was probably RVN, nearly everything was geared for him to finish plays. We learned from that situation we could still score many goals without the main source of our goals in prior seasons.

I believe Bruno is at his best when he has the responsibility of carrying a team. These were the same conditions he was in when we bought him from Sporting and were amazed by his stats.

 

[TMDaines]

Shame HE'S feeding them indeed.....

You’ve made three random posts since joining here, all randomly sniping at Bruno with nothing constructive.

 

[#07]

Bruno has lost the ball less than De Bruyne? CAF will not believe it.

 

[#07]

 

[Rozay]

With today’s undoubtedly leaked story of all except our U21s being available at the right price, Bruno is an interesting case. There has been strong talk of Saudi interest in the past, and if they were unable to get Kevin, I wouldn’t be shocked if they came in with 9-figures for Bruno. Based on today’s story, you would imagine it would be considered. At 30, the club might think it’s time, although we can’t just have an U21 team and need experience.

 

[lex talionis]

Bruno is a case study where a club might have to let go of its best player in order to rebuild and strengthen to the point where in 2-3 seasons we can compete for the PL trophy. I'm not convinced of that yet, but it may well be the case.

 

[Gabriel Djemba-Bebe]

This is my first post, sorry it's not a complementary one but, all I've seen from Fernandes since he came to United is a self-centred egotist, never liked him since he scored an equaliser v Wolves (I think) near the end of the game during Lockdown, he tipped his imaginary cap to the camera closeup then Wolves went up the other end & scored. Imagine Mark Hughes or Rooney doing that? They'd be grabbing the ball & busting a gut to get back to restart the game.....He's NOT a leader by any sense of the imagination & as long as he's IN the side Ten Hag or whoever it is in charge will be in the crap, all the madness rotates around him & his inflated, imaginary image of himself as a Don or whatever he's convinced himself of being.

All of your anger towards Bruno which apparently stems from his celebration this one time where he tipped his cap after an 'equaliser' when in fact it was when he made it 2-1 vs Leicester Leicester then equalised a few minutes later and somehow that's all Bruno's fault. The caf really is a strange place sometimes.

 

[Isotope]

With today’s undoubtedly leaked story of all except our U21s being available at the right price, Bruno is an interesting case. There has been strong talk of Saudi interest in the past, and if they were unable to get Kevin, I wouldn’t be shocked if they came in with 9-figures for Bruno. Based on today’s story, you would imagine it would be considered. At 30, the club might think it’s time, although we can’t just have an U21 team and need experience.

That would take massive balls for Ineos AND the Glazers to say no to that.

It's just I feel that Bruno can still play until he's 35 on a deeper role. And he's always fit also.

 

[roonster09]

With today’s undoubtedly leaked story of all except our U21s being available at the right price, Bruno is an interesting case. There has been strong talk of Saudi interest in the past, and if they were unable to get Kevin, I wouldn’t be shocked if they came in with 9-figures for Bruno. Based on today’s story, you would imagine it would be considered. At 30, the club might think it’s time, although we can’t just have an U21 team and need experience.

Yeah, short term it's difficult to see us challenging, so better to plan for future. One of the biggest mistake we did in last 10 years and before that is not selling player at the right time. As rich as we are, we are not state backed. We should learn from Madrid. They sell any player when the time is right.

Sell old players and plan to build a young team.

 

[M16Red]

No, it's when you have an extremely open formation that exposes the defence.

You could argue if he'd have the same creation stats without this openness?

He seems a little deeper the last few games?

 

[amolbhatia50k]

The discourse on Bruno fluctuates too much. Either it’s him being terrible a bottler / too emotional / poor captain or comparisons to KDB / carrying us / creative genius.

Truth is somewhere in between. He is a very good player who is highly creative and runs his socks off, but he’s also fairly slow, can’t dribble and inreliable in possession. As I’ve said before, he’s one of our better players but not suited to title winning football so we should slowly look to transition in an AM who has better playmaking qualities, to ready us for a title push in 3-4 years times as I don’t see Bruno as part of such a team.