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Can you not see the picture?
A player is always responsible for his own performance and he has been poor in some big games.
But no No.10 can consistently perform well against the best when their team is getting completely outplayed.
Yes I can but that can't be a league trophy because Fernandes has never won any .
Ahh sorry skipped over the League thing. That having been said, why does it have to be a league title for him to qualify as having won something? That seems weird to me. A trophy is a trophy no?
I wasn't agreeing or disagreeing with Keane's comment I was just correcting posters assertion about Bruno having won the league title .
Funnily enough, Sporting are on the verge of winning their 2nd Primeira Liga since he left. Bruno was their Coutinho.
Pedro Gonçalves replaced him. He's scored 76 goals and assisted 50 goals from 176 games. And can play 3-4 positions.
He scored that wonder goal vs Arsenal last season. Europa League. Wolves must be fuming that they let him go almost 6 years ago. He's worth at least €50 million now compared to the 1.3 million they sold him to Famalicão for.
I think Bruno is a winner. Whatever we say, he has his faults where he waves his arms up but he's the type of player who's trying to change things.
He's won nothing in his career. He's 29 years of age , what has he won in his career?
He's won nothing but irrespective of wanting to be a winner, his standards are high. If you take Bruno out of Man.utd you're talking about players who haven't improved. If he's not doing what he's doing United are nowhere near where they are. He's frustrated, he probably sees it in training everyday, people not up to the standards of what he's looking for and it spills over into a Saturday. Because he still brings "it" When we say about his histrionics, he brings it. If Man utd are saved in a game it's probably him who's going to do it. He's got every right to be upset with them because they should be doing better.
I think he is a talented boy but does he help people out and does he make others around him better? The answer is 100% no. He does like to dig them out which is fine but you also got to drag them along. Would you like to be in that United dressing room today with these guys going " Not sure about him, he's ok when we're winning but we're not going to be winning every time. How do you stop that momentum and flex your muscles in games? That's what I want, we talk about talented players but sometimes it's about personalities in big games and getting you over the line in big games.
Bruno has got that.
Where is the evidence? Where is the evidence?
The way he plays and the way he saves the club
Saves the club? Look he's won nothing in his career. He's won nothing in his career. Look at his CV. If he's one of your best players, there's a responsibility
That was Ian Wright and Roy Keane on the overlap arguing about Bruno.
He's won nothing in his career. He's 29 years of age , what has he won in his career?
He's won nothing but irrespective of wanting to be a winner, his standards are high. If you take Bruno out of Man.utd you're talking about players who haven't improved. If he's not doing what he's doing United are nowhere near where they are. He's frustrated, he probably sees it in training everyday, people not up to the standards of what he's looking for and it spills over into a Saturday. Because he still brings "it" When we say about his histrionics, he brings it. If Man utd are saved in a game it's probably him who's going to do it. He's got every right to be upset with them because they should be doing better.
I think he is a talented boy but does he help people out and does he make others around him better? The answer is 100% no. He does like to dig them out which is fine but you also got to drag them along. Would you like to be in that United dressing room today with these guys going " Not sure about him, he's ok when we're winning but we're not going to be winning every time. How do you stop that momentum and flex your muscles in games? That's what I want, we talk about talented players but sometimes it's about personalities in big games and getting you over the line in big games.
Bruno has got that.
Where is the evidence? Where is the evidence?
The way he plays and the way he saves the club
Saves the club? Look he's won nothing in his career. He's won nothing in his career. Look at his CV. If he's one of your best players, there's a responsibility
That was Ian Wright and Roy Keane on the overlap arguing about Bruno.
I agree, but theres no point calling him a winner.
Virgil Van Dijk has been called a winner and the best defender ever (lol) and is mainly anonymous during the big games too, so I think this is pretty odd from Keano
I think it's pretty clear that for many, the reason they don't count is because it's Bruno.
Winner is probably referring to the fact that he has a winning mentality, which can't be denied, but don't let that skew your agendas.
I think he works hard and always tries his best. I don't think the constant moaning and stropping is a sign of a winning mentality, he has improved that this season though
Have you ever tried to play football when you need to get on the shittter?
He asked to be subbed off before extra time started. I would've quickly darted off to the shitter after the full time whistleHave you ever tried to play football when you need to get on the shittter?
I was being tongue in cheek with my comment, by the way. Pep actually confirmed that De Bruyne asked to be subbed off because he was tired and felt like he couldn't give any more.
He asked to be subbed off before extra time started. I would've quickly darted off to the shitter after the full time whistle
I was being tongue in cheek with my comment, by the way. Pep actually confirmed that De Bruyne asked to be subbed off because he was tired and felt like he couldn't give any more.
As was I
The whole winner thing is nonsensical anyway, especially in a team sport.
Bruno had a broken hand against Sheffield.
My feckin captain.
My feckin captain.
Can't be true. The CAF tells me Bruno is the problem.
It isn’t really
His right hand? No wonder he's in good form.
Scored two and assisted with a broken hand. Leader.
Some of you will never learn, how are people still falling for the Bruno trap.
A lot of this thread reads like last year's Rashford thread. "Take him out of the side and who will score all our goals" well we are scoring at a similarly poor rate to last season and that's with Rashford providing feck all.
The Bruno illusion is thinking you can't get better by relacing him because of his stats. He affects the game as a lone ranger, both on and off the ball. When he first joined, he was the connecting piece of the team, now he doesn't do that at all, he just has good moments of football that just seem to exist within the course of the game but there is no synergy with the team.
It's what the stats will never show you. Odegaard knits things together for Arsenal, without him Saka and Ben White would be nowhere near as effective. The only connection Bruno has is the ball into the channel to Rashford.
He's been the centrepiece of this team for the last four years. Why would you continue to build around something that has not worked. You can say we don't have to build around him but with his style and position, he will be central to a team's attack by default.
Sell now while we can get a good price and commit properly to a rebuild.
A lot of this thread reads like last year's Rashford thread. "Take him out of the side and who will score all our goals" well we are scoring at a similarly poor rate to last season and that's with Rashford providing feck all.
The Bruno illusion is thinking you can't get better by relacing him because of his stats. He affects the game as a lone ranger, both on and off the ball. When he first joined, he was the connecting piece of the team, now he doesn't do that at all, he just has good moments of football that just seem to exist within the course of the game but there is no synergy with the team.
It's what the stats will never show you. Odegaard knits things together for Arsenal, without him Saka and Ben White would be nowhere near as effective. The only connection Bruno has is the ball into the channel to Rashford.
He's been the centrepiece of this team for the last four years. Why would you continue to build around something that has not worked. You can say we don't have to build around him but with his style and position, he will be central to a team's attack by default.
Sell now while we can get a good price and commit properly to a rebuild.
In comparison to the other two,yes
We've got 99 problems, and Bruno most definitely isn't one of them.
It's been a while since we've seen him put in that dominant of a performance in the final third like vs Sheffield United.
I don't like how deep he has been playing this season. This summer we should be looking for that dominant CM to partner Mainoo so Bruno can play further up the pitch alongside Hojlund. It's where you get the best of him and limits the downside from the erratic nature of his game.
It's been a while since we've seen him put in that dominant of a performance in the final third like vs Sheffield United.
I don't like how deep he has been playing this season. This summer we should be looking for that dominant CM to partner Mainoo so Bruno can play further up the pitch alongside Hojlund. It's where you get the best of him and limits the downside from the erratic nature of his game.
Totally agree
Continue to build around him? When did we start? None of our recent signings have benefited him, one of his biggest issues is he feels the need to constantly run around doing other people’s jobs for them. If we’d actually built a structure to support him we may have seen the best of him more consistently.
Such a weird player. You could read the positive and negative posts in this thread, and both make very good points imo. He can show an incredible attitude and will to win, but also throws himself and his arms around as soon as things go wrong. He's carried us at points with his goals and assists and is a constant in an injury jinxed squad, but you also feel someone with more game control might stop some of the chaos ball we see by recycling possession better.
The positives outweigh the negatives for me right now, but if the club did move him on, I also don't think it would be a disaster.
The positives outweigh the negatives for me right now, but if the club did move him on, I also don't think it would be a disaster.
When did people start saying 'my captain'? As if he's captain of just one fan. It's a rubbish phrase
O Captain! My captain!
It's a hand injury?
He's not a keeper, so it really doesn't make any difference to his game. From memory Cantona played with a cast for bit, lots of players have.
I don't see the need to fuss about a hand injury, just get on with it, which he did.
Let’s not forget, as if you would the other way around, that one of these players played as a six/eight and one played as ten. Let’s not forget that Bruno accumulated his G+A over 1300 more minutes (wtf has seasons got to do with anything other than credit for not getting injured). 11 more open play goals is hardly impressive given the position the two played, let alone over the amount of time we are talking and the extra minutes Bruno played. It’s averaging 2 more open play goals a season. It actually speaks volumes for how well Pogba did in comparison to the narrative that you fed off.
As for your point on Lukaku (terrible for us) Ibra (played here one season) and fecking Cavani…(signed AFTER Bruno
) conveniently leaving out Rashford best ever season last season, Greenwood coming into the side at the same time Bruno arrived, Martial having two good seasons….and Ronaldo more than replicating what Ibra did for us.You talk utter shite as if it’s fact.
Isn’t it my ‘choice of’ captain? That’s how I’ve always read it anyway.
Pogba still defenders.
The world is mad.
The world is mad.
You might want to look where Pogba was brought into the conversation? Certainly wasn’t by me…but don’t let that spoil your agenda.
What agenda?
I just don't see how any Utd fan could have any time for him at all. Incredibly talented footballer and he had some good moments in a Utd shirt, but overall he was just an absolute waste of time and money.
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