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Whenever Bruno speaks in interviews, he comes across as intelligent and thoughtful. On the pitch though, it's entirely the opposite. He lacks in-game intelligence, he undermines his teammates (and not in the Keano sort of way where he's trying to pull them up to improve standards), and prone to strops/dives. When things are going against us, he doesn't seem to have the strength of character/will power to try and pull things around, but rather shows emotional outbursts which does our team no good.

If it was just mental attributes then we can maybe look past it (I suppose few footballers are great personalities/leaders, just like in other industries). But the biggest problem with Bruno is his playing style. If we were a counter-attacking, set up to absorb pressure and hit teams on the counter then he's world-class in my opinion (we saw this in the first couple of seasons since he signed for us; his goals/assists were off the charts). He's great in transitions and his high volume of high risk passes/attempts mean that he's able to make an impact goal contributions wise. But he's terrible at controlling the tempo of a game (a key requirement for a no. 10 in a possession based team). He cannot hold onto the ball (doesn't have presence, ball holding skills, and can't exchange passes with teammates to retain possession). We saw a bit of that today with Weghorst in No. 10 role where he helped the team (in a small way in the first half) to retain and progress the ball with his presence (something that I've never seen Bruno do and I suspect why ETH played him wide). He always looks for risky passes because that's the only way he can create impact (and he's good at that). So for us going forward, he's a poor fit stylistically to become a possession dominant team.

In my opinion today was just the worst case scenario of what's usually the case with him. His performances and attitude in big games, not just this season but under previous managers as well (Europe League final instantly springs to mind) is proof of that. Hope I'm wrong and ETH is able to find a way to fit him into a successful team (obviously has his strengths, but also plenty of weaknesses both playing-wise and behavior-wise).

Apologies for the long post. Needed to vent a bit to get that result out of my system. Bruno was far from the only one to get blame for today (there were plenty of others such as Shaw), but him with armband stuck out like a sore thumb.
 
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It would be crazy to single him out today. Plenty of worse players to pick from.

But the way he pushed the linesman pissed me off. Very unprofessional and so lucky to not get a red card and a ban. I hope Ten Hag screamed at him for an hour after that.
 
Should be benched for Bettis and Southampton for that performance. If ten Hag benches Ronaldo and Maguire, don't see why he can't be here. He gave up and was also extremely unprofessional. I really can't stand him on the pitch. Whiner, flopper, diver, and just a really maddening player. It's made even more frustrating by the fact he seems normal in interviews and smart. Not sure why he's such a disgrace on the pitch attitude wise.
 
Bruno wide, Rashford up top and Wout in AM needs to stop. We’re getting the most out of no one like this. Bruno’s performances have been dire for a few games now.
 
He was bad but so was everyone else. Then he plays out wide which is never good

But this guy needed a rest or even some minutes on the bench late on in the game. He plays 90 mins every game usually at full pelt. He is at some point going to get tired and not make the best decisions or be slow
 
I am so done with seeing Brunos bodylanguage whenever things are hard. He moans, flails his arms at teammates, and does stupid things like lunge at the Liverpool player and linesman today. And stops running back for some obscure reason.

He is prone to lose his cool more often than not. At least when Keane did it it came with a hardman attitude behind it, not because youre pissy and angry that things are not going right.

If Cantona was playing on this team he would have karate kicked half of these players in the wardrobe after the game.

Give the captains armband to someone who is worthy of it even when we are behind. Bruno is a excellent captain when things are going well, not so much the other way around.
 
Bruno overall still has his redeeming qualities. He creates loads of chances. Just look at the opta stats. In top 5 players in league for chances created, might even be top 3 actually. He also works his socks off.

Don't like his sulking and playacting though at times.
Does it say how many possession losses it take to get his high volume of chances created? Because I would imagine, others that are in that vicinity are more efficient, which is Bruno's problem that everyone here agrees on.

If that's the case, then the creative ability is more of a factor of being fearless. In some cases that can be good. In the past, there were times where we really were timid and nobody was adventurous. However, In a side that will like to control the match more and with other effective attackers, then that quality is no longer good. Because you're robbing other more efficient players of chances to create because you're hogging up all our possession.

The best way to explain this is to use the extreme cases of someone like Messi paired with Bruno. Sure Bruno creates a lot of chances, because he has the ball so much and isn't afraid to turn United winning possession back, into him giving the opposition possession back through him trying something creatively. But is that really the player you want using up those chances? Wouldn't you rather have the more efficient creator have more chances to create for others?

Using Messi is an extreme case, but the point remains with other attackers paired with Bruno. Wouldn't you rather they (whatever new attackers United get) be given more chances to create than allow Bruno those chances, given that he's so inefficient? If not then the strategy will always be to live and die by Bruno. Bruno hogs the glory to the detriment of United where it becomes possible that United lose matches, but it's impossible to blame him because he got his counting stats (total #, rather than efficiency) for the day.
 
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Said he’d eventually get pushed out wide. The most non creative 10 I’ve ever seen compared to his reputation.

When I was younger I played Championship Manager with Stilian Petrov as a 10 and won the league. His position was CM and DM. I mugged the game like Bruno is mugging his position.
 
The first goal came about due to Allison finding Robertson and then the mistakes happened.
I mean de gea found Shaw who found rashford who should have scored. They scored because we made mistakes not because of alison passing to robertson
 
Yes and threw his umpteenth strop of the game when he wasn't.

Never seen anything more despicable from a United captain.

He's the sort of player who's happy to sit on the turf flapping like an angry bird after getting tackled while his team are getting counter attacked.
Is there a video of this?
 
Yes and threw his umpteenth strop of the game when he wasn't.

Never seen anything more despicable from a United captain.

He's the sort of player who's happy to sit on the turf flapping like an angry bird after getting tackled while his team are getting counter attacked.
I didnt remember Neville being adamant about Bruno throwing a strop because he wasn't subbed?
 
It’s a possibility that he’s physically and mentally shattered, just because you’re fit to play every game it doesn’t mean you should. He obviously cares a lot and wears his heart on his sleeve, for this reason I don’t see him as skipper material because he’s too emotional but he’s been given the armband anyway. Now playing three times a week where every game seems like a must win and rollercoaster matches against City, Arsenal, Leeds, Barcelona and getting that first cup in six years, it’s very draining. Yes he’s a whiny little so and so but he’s also human, playing him out of position doesn’t help either.
 
I mean de gea found Shaw who found rashford who should have scored. They scored because we made mistakes not because of alison passing to robertson
They scored because all 11 of their players have been coached to be proactive on the ball for several years, hence Allison is constantly required to create the first superiority in the build up phase. Their keeper isn't only there to save shots or prevent shots, but he's also required to initiate attacks. And his pass in the build up play created the first goal.

 
It would be crazy to single him out today. Plenty of worse players to pick from.

But the way he pushed the linesman pissed me off. Very unprofessional and so lucky to not get a red card and a ban. I hope Ten Hag screamed at him for an hour after that.

There were definitely worse players than Bruno today. But his performance as a captain was so disappointing.

As a United fan, you're watching this game and you're urging the team not to capitulate - to keep fighting for self-respect alone. Even at 3-0 down, you're thinking "just don't give up and let them walk all over us".

Watching Bruno give up on a missed tackle and not track back - just throw his arms up in surrender - was so disappointing. He just doesn't show that he cares as much as we do. I hope he does inside - but he has to show it on the pitch, when the odds are so far against. And not via personal frustration, but from a captain's mentality. Roy Keane did it, Bryan Robson did it. As a fan watching the game, you would see Keano and Robbo's reactions reflecting your own frustrations - chin up, spurring the team on, vociferously calling out those looked ready to pack up and go home, and making sure that no-one's head dropped. Channelling something extra when you're at your lowest ebb - setting an example. Making sure that a 2-0 didn't get to a 4-0 or a 5-0, let alone a fecking 7-0. Out of self-respect, and respect for the club and the fans.

Yeah, they could occasionally lose their heads - who doesn't - but they generally channelled their aggression and their frustrations to positively influence the team. That's what made them special.

Bruno just didn't have that in him today. Love him as a player, but on that performance he doesn't deserve captain.
 
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I feel bad for Bruno. He rarely gets the plaudits when we win (despite being our most important player) but always gets singled out when we lose.
 
I feel bad for Bruno. He rarely gets the plaudits when we win (despite being our most important player) but always gets singled out when we lose.
Nah he acts like a petulant bratty teenager, similar to Ronaldo. When things are going wrong he often looses his head which can be contagious, it's just not acceptable from a senior player
 
Right and you're happy having a captain who demands to be substituted vs Liverpool when losing and then cries when he isn't.

Talk about dumb.

It was disgusting.

Time to give that armband to Martinez.
 
Nah he acts like a petulant bratty teenager, similar to Ronaldo. When things are going wrong he often looses his head which can be contagious, it's just not acceptable from a senior player
How did he lose his head? The ref wasn't giving us anything, should he have done a Maguire and just keep quiet?
 
I feel bad for Bruno. He rarely gets the plaudits when we win (despite being our most important player) but always gets singled out when we lose.
A few of us don’t want him here and have no intentions of hiding it. I personally only put up with supporting him play for us because there is no other player in the squad to cover his position.
So when we have games like these I’m looking no further than the guy I don’t want central to the team.
 
Bruno overall still has his redeeming qualities. He creates loads of chances. Just look at the opta stats. In top 5 players in league for chances created, might even be top 3 actually. He also works his socks off.

Don't like his sulking and playacting though at times.
To be fair you’ve always been consistent. The one thing I’ve always noted about NouCamp 99 is your fondness of Xa
 
I feel bad for Bruno. He rarely gets the plaudits when we win (despite being our most important player) but always gets singled out when we lose.
Even last week when we won a fecking trophy and Bruno had a decent game, Gary Neville had to have a dig at him.
 
:lol: Neville being adamant about anything to do with United these days usually means the opposite is true.

Neville sees enough things in our games to be diagnosed psychotic.

Every firm tackle is lucky not to be a red card. Every other goal is offside. For this particular one, that's before you factor in how much he fecking hates Bruno as well.
 
I feel bad for Bruno. He rarely gets the plaudits when we win (despite being our most important player) but always gets singled out when we lose.

This is just not true. The guy has an elite task force that refuses to see anything wrong with his performances. Guy had a cordyceps like showing last time around and people came in this thread to say they couldn’t criticise him because he plays a lot. How does that even make sense?
 



Bad enough without the strops and injury feigning while your team are under the cosh from your own mistakes.
 
To be fair you’ve always been consistent. The one thing I’ve always noted about NouCamp 99 is your fondness of Xa

Well it's not just Xa. Bruno can frustrate the life out of you and then create a big chance out of nothing. He does it a lot.

If only the 85m Brazilian Dan James could Create anything at all and we'd be alright. Hahaha
 
It’s a possibility that he’s physically and mentally shattered, just because you’re fit to play every game it doesn’t mean you should. He obviously cares a lot and wears his heart on his sleeve, for this reason I don’t see him as skipper material because he’s too emotional but he’s been given the armband anyway. Now playing three times a week where every game seems like a must win and rollercoaster matches against City, Arsenal, Leeds, Barcelona and getting that first cup in six years, it’s very draining. Yes he’s a whiny little so and so but he’s also human, playing him out of position doesn’t help either.

This is far too sensible a post. The initial team selection wasn’t quite right either - No AWB or Sabitzer.
 
Whenever Bruno speaks in interviews, he comes across as intelligent and thoughtful. On the pitch though, it's entirely the opposite. He lacks in-game intelligence, he undermines his teammates (and not in the Keano sort of way where he's trying to pull them up to improve standards), and prone to strops/dives. When things are going against us, he doesn't seem to have the strength of character/will power to try and pull things around, but rather shows emotional outbursts which does our team no good.

If it was just mental attributes then we can maybe look past it (I suppose few footballers are great personalities/leaders, just like in other industries). But the biggest problem with Bruno is his playing style. If we were a counter-attacking, set up to absorb pressure and hit teams on the counter then he's world-class in my opinion (we saw this in the first couple of seasons since he signed for us; his goals/assists were off the charts). He's great in transitions and his high volume of high risk passes/attempts mean that he's able to make an impact goal contributions wise. But he's terrible at controlling the tempo of a game (a key requirement for a no. 10 in a possession based team). He cannot hold onto the ball (doesn't have presence, ball holding skills, and can't exchange passes with teammates to retain possession). We saw a bit of that today with Weghorst in No. 10 role where he helped the team (in a small way in the first half) to retain and progress the ball with his presence (something that I've never seen Bruno do and I suspect why ETH played him wide). He always looks for risky passes because that's the only way he can create impact (and he's good at that). So for us going forward, he's a poor fit stylistically to become a possession dominant team.

In my opinion today was just the worst case scenario of what's usually the case with him. His performances and attitude in big games, not just this season but under previous managers as well (Europe League final instantly springs to mind) is proof of that. Hope I'm wrong and ETH is able to find a way to fit him into a successful team (obviously has his strengths, but also plenty of weaknesses both playing-wise and behavior-wise).

Apologies for the long post. Needed to vent a bit to get that result out of my system. Bruno was far from the only one to get blame for today (there were plenty of others such as Shaw), but him with armband stuck out like a sore thumb.

Well said. Thank you.
 
I struggle to understand how he has ever been viewed as a leader, it’s quite baffling to be honest. He’s the antithesis of a leader, but I guess in the modern era of the world his screaming and moaning means he’s “passionate”.

No doubt he’s a decent player, but he has no mental composure and the way he loses it is embarrassing for top flight football, let alone a club with Uniteds stature.

Today he done everything you wouldn’t want from a leader. The moaning, diving and general petulance was beyond belief. Pushing the official shows he totally lost it and getting away with it was an extraordinarily lucky feat.

i also saw him completely losing it at Garnacho for shooting instead of passing to him during a chance. Poor kid has had to come on trailing at Anfield and then has the senior figure in the attack and captain in the team completely shouting down his throat for having a go on goal. He’s meant to be doing the opposite considering his role, yet ends up belittling the youngsters in the worst possible moment.

Genuinely awful behaviour, haven’t seen someone lose their head like that in the PL in years.
 



Bad enough without the strops and injury feigning while your team are under the cosh from your own mistakes.


Man, this guy gets so much hate. He has been nothing short of brilliant since we signed him yet you'd think he was the 2nd coming of Bebe with the way people talk about him.
 
Man, this guy gets so much hate. He has been nothing short of brilliant since we signed him yet you'd think he was the 2nd coming of Bebe with the way people talk about him.

Certainly developed a cult to rival Martial's.
 
They scored because all 11 of their players have been coached to be proactive on the ball for several years, hence Allison is constantly required to create the first superiority in the build up phase. Their keeper isn't only there to save shots or prevent shots, but he's also required to initiate attacks. And his pass in the build up play created the first goal.


This system keeps leaving both flanks exposed all the time. Many teams have done this to us but Liverpool was really efficient today.
 
He's a great footballer and delivers goals and assists and is always fit and ready to run.

But - how many top clubs have a player like him that starts every game?

He's super creative but loses the ball cheaply. He's a key pass machine but is slow and weak.

He's good but not great.
 
You wouldn't need Neville to tell you Bruno actually gave up and just stood there watching our defence being torn apart.
 
Man, this guy gets so much hate. He has been nothing short of brilliant since we signed him yet you'd think he was the 2nd coming of Bebe with the way people talk about him.

Even Graeme fecking Souness described him as "likeable" on TV today, so you'd have to be a particularly brutal critic as a United fan to hate Bruno. He's not hated, he's been a great player for us. But he has a questionable attitude at times and needs to learn how to manage that. He certainly doesn't seem like a captain, to me.
 
He's played 4072 minutes across 47 matches (club+international) this season. Those are 3rd most and tied for most, respectively, among all players in Europe. 87mins per match averaged. He's got his faults but he clearly needs a rest
 


Maybe he does need a rest, he has played a lot, but for anyone in this thread defending him you cannot look at this and then say that. Attitude wise - as the captain of Manchester United - this is an absolute disgrace and he needs to be benched for multiple games, it’s pathetic how much he gave up, weak mentality.
 
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