Brian Charles Lara

[Spoony]

World Cup is none event.

India's a third world cricketing nation. Always has been.

You've never beaten us in England.

Never.

Ever.

 

[Slabber]

Spoony's right about that. He's wrong about Malcolm Marshall as proved by the fact that Vijay agrees with him.

 

[vijay]

During span of 10-12 months he scored about 9 ODI hundreds and lot other match winning innings, hence dominating a number of ODI series during that period.

Even Ganguly scored more ODI hundreds than Tendulkar during the period.

Other than that Aussie tour which was a big one since it included 2 ODI series and a test series, he performed very well in OZ away when he was awarded the Man of the series, would have performed even better if it had not been for 4 wrong decission by the umpires down under.

Between 1999-2002 India toured Australia only once. Was he the man of the series then?

In almost every home series against everytime he invariably hit a ton or two. Again performed in SA away series where that Match refree controversy take place. Capped it all of with 2003 WC , winning man of the series again.

Hitting odd centuries in series and bottling up when the occasion demands does not throw a good light on his end product.

His knock against Pakistan WC 2003 was great but why did he dissapear during the finals?

Hold the record for highest run in WC, second highest as well for 96.

Even Lara was great during the WC 96? Scoring hundreds against mediocre attacks on placid wickets is nothing new to Tendulkar.

How about naming the series where lara dominated?
Lara has been extremely inconsistent and the fact that he had more match winning innings in test than Tendulkar can not compensate that.
Plus Sachin has perfomed against the best bowlers of his team. May be Akram possibly got better of him on few occassions.

Am not saying Sachin is poor. Technically he is strong and a great player to watch and learn (like Gavaskar) but Lara can carry a weak team and what ever matches the Windies have won after Richardson's retirement is mainly due to Lara. Not to forget his epic 156 along with Ambrose when facing a stiff target against Australia in his but series as the captain . Before that.. In the away series against England he pledged that would hit a hundred in every test and managed to hit 4 big hundreds on a trot.

He has also broken the world record thrice during the period and even if the windies were average he was able to win test matches with his bat by himself against odds that Tendulkar has failed consistently through out his career.

 

[Spoony]

Spoony's right about that. He's wrong about Malcolm Marshall as proved by the fact that Vijay agrees with him.

It's worrying that one.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

World Cup is none event.QUOTE]
Its the most important thing in cricket. Theres nothing bigger than the World Cup. And England have never won it.. that still cracks me up.

 

[Spoony]

Its the most important thing in cricket. Theres nothing bigger than the World Cup. And England have never won it.. that still cracks me up.

It's a one day tourno.

Mickey Mouse cricket.

We've been to three finals. And decided not to win each time we got there.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Am not saying Sachin is poor.

This ones even better.. Sachin carried the Indian team far better than Lara did with his West Indian one. Post 96 Sachin has been better.. except for the last year. He was better against the big teams, he was better at home, he inspired his team more, he did more for the game in his home land, and he performed better on the biggest stage(hes possibly the best batsman in world cup history, im exactly sure of the stats).

 

[Spoony]

This ones even better.. Sachin carried the Indian team far better than Lara did with his West Indian one. Post 96 Sachin has been better.. except for the last year. He was better against the big teams, he was better at home, he inspired his team more, he did more for the game in his home land, and he performed better on the biggest stage(hes possibly the best batsman in world cup history, im exactly sure of the stats).

Amol. I bet you dream about giving Sachin a blowjob.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

It's a one day tourno.

Mickey Mouse cricket.

We've been to three finals. And decided not to win each time we got there.

I do consider Test cricket more important. But the World Cup is different. That is the most important thing in cricket, any follower of the game should know that. And we all know why you lot choose to ignore that fact.

 

[vijay]

This ones even better.. Sachin carried the Indian team far better than Lara did with his West Indian one. Post 96 Sachin has been better.. except for the last year. He was better against the big teams, he was better at home, he inspired his team more, he did more for the game in his home land, and he performed better on the biggest stage(hes possibly the best batsman in world cup history, im exactly sure of the stats).

Sachin carried the Indian team between 94 to 96 when Azharuddin was the captain. Not to forget we were shite during that period. He did not actually carry the team like Lara but the best batsman among the shite lot.

After Ganguly and Dravid made their debut, India were never an one man team

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Amol. I bet you dream about giving Sachin a blowjob.

I only bring it up(usually) when replying to something like this.

Anyways, India winning of most importance, not any individual. Dravid is clearly our best player right now, much better Sachin ATM.

 

[Spoony]

I do consider Test cricket more important. But the World Cup is different. That is the most important thing in cricket, any follower of the game should know that..

Why?

 

[crappycraperson]

Even Ganguly scored more ODI hundreds than Tendulkar during the period.




Between 1999-2002 India toured Australia only once. Was he the man of the series then?




Hitting odd centuries in series and bottling up when the occasion demands does not throw a good light on his end product.

His knock against Pakistan WC 2003 was great but why did he dissapear during the finals?



Even Lara was great during the WC 96? Scoring hundreds against mediocre attacks on placid wickets is nothing new to Tendulkar.





Am not saying Sachin is poor. Technically he is strong and a great player to watch and learn (like Gavaskar) but Lara can carry a weak team and what ever matches the Windies have won after Richardson's retirement is mainly due to Lara. Not to forget his epic 156 along with Ambrose when facing a stiff target against Australia in his but series as the captain . Before that.. In the away series against England he pledged that would hit a hundred in every test and managed to hit 4 big hundreds on a trot.

He has also broken the world record thrice during the period and even if the windies were average he was able to win test matches with his bat by himself against odds that Tendulkar has failed consistently through out his career.

You are mistaken about Ganguly hitting more centuries than, That was was different period. One I am talking about is immediately after he stepped down as captain.

Don't recall the exact year, he was the man of the series in the tour before the last one.

He did not perform in final which will count against him, but atleast in true sense did lead his team to the final. Has Lara achieved that?

Hitting odd centuries? I think 34 test centuries and 38 ODI ones say otherwise.

Scoring hundred against Medicore attacks?
Feck off, as mentioned he has performed against best bowlers of his "generation". Lara has been McGrath's bitch for a long time.
He scored the most runs in 96 WC, against Aussie attack, SRL attack who won it, WI attack with walsh and ambrose.

You are terribly biased against Sachin and seems to be in love with Lara who any cricket fan would tell you has been average for long patches in his career.
I admitted Lara has won more test matches on his own that Tendulkar but it is not as if he has delvired on every occassion. He has failed in several as well.
Indian team was equally if not more shit that WI and tendulkat carried us.
Most runs in an innings record mean feck all.

Bascially
Tendulkar is A LOT more consistent than Lara
Better record than Lara
Almost every prominent cricketer accept he is better including lara.

Lara has probabaly 3-4 more match winning test inninigs than Sachin and WC for most runs in an innings

Sachin is " clearly " better.

 

[Slabber]

The Ashes is the most important thing in cricket. Everyone knows that.

 

[vijay]

I do consider Test cricket more important. But the World Cup is different. That is the most important thing in cricket, any follower of the game should know that. And we all know why you lot choose to ignore that fact.

I'll test your knowlege.

There are 10 different ways to dismiss a batsman..

List them... I'll make Sachin to give you a ....

 

[crappycraperson]

Sachin carried the Indian team between 94 to 96 when Azharuddin was the captain. Not to forget we were shite during that period. He did not actually carry the team like Lara but the best batsman among the shite lot.

After Ganguly and Dravid made their debut, India were never an one man team

Wrong............again
Sachin carried us from 94-2000 and did a lot more than Lara.
Lara still had the bowling attack of walsh and ambrose , we had feck all.

Dravid has become effective off late. Ganguly hit peak after 99 WC

 

[crappycraperson]

I'll test your knowlege.

There are 10 different ways to dismiss a batsman..

List them... I'll make Sachin to give you a ....

He could easily google it.
Its an old Q anyway, only who is a complete newbie to cricket would get excited over that.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

I'll make Sachin to give you a ....

Maybe you could learn the England language first.
Oh and keep your gay fantasies to yourself.

 

[crappycraperson]

English will always under rate WC till they win it...................which will be never.
Such a shame.

And spoony we have won in England, albiet it was a long time ago in 1986. England though havent won in Indian for a even longer period than that.

India is more of a cricketing nation than England was, is or ever will be. Infact that goes for every other cricket playing country.

 

[Spoony]

And spoony we have won in England, albiet it was a long time ago in 1986. England though havent won in Indian for a even longer period than that.

Bollocks. You've never won a series here.

 

[crappycraperson]

The Ashes is the most important thing in cricket. Everyone knows that.

Except its not.
Aussies said winning in India is more important to them than Ashes in which they have walked over England till the last one.

 

[Spoony]

except in 86 when we let you win.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Bollocks. You've never won a series here.

Thats because we chose not to.
We won the world cup instead.

 

[crappycraperson]

Bollocks. You've never won a series here.

Keep telling yourself that.
Accept it lads, you are inferior to us when it comes to cricket. Its not even your first sport.

 

[Slabber]

Except its not.
Aussies said winning in India is more important to them than Ashes in which they have walked over England till the last one.

That was to wind-up the English.

No one gives a feck about India, except Amol.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

So done then. Lets see what wev learnt today:
1. India > England
2. Sachin > Lara
3. The world cup is the biggest thing in cricket.

 

[vijay]

You are mistaken about Ganguly hitting more centuries than, That was was different period. One I am talking about is immediately after he stepped down as captain.

Don't recall the exact year, he was the man of the series in the tour before the last one.

He did not perform in final which will count against him, but atleast in true sense did lead his team to the final. Has Lara achieved that?

Hitting odd centuries? I think 34 test centuries and 38 ODI ones say otherwise.

Scoring hundred against Medicore attacks?
Feck off, as mentioned he has performed against best bowlers of his "generation". Lara has been McGrath's bitch for a long time.
He scored the most runs in 96 WC, against Aussie attack, SRL attack who won it, WI attack with walsh and ambrose.

You are terribly biased against Sachin and seems to be in love with Lara who any cricket fan would tell you has been average for long patches in his career.
I admitted Lara has won more test matches on his own that Tendulkar but it is not as if he has delvired on every occassion. He has failed in several as well.
Indian team was equally if not more shit that WI and tendulkat carried us.
Most runs in an innings record mean feck all.

Bascially
Tendulkar is A LOT more consistent than Lara
Better record than Lara
Almost every prominent cricketer accept he is better including lara.

Lara has probabaly 3-4 more match winning test inninigs than Sachin and WC for most runs in an innings

Sachin is " clearly " better.

Lara can win Test matches and series on his own. Sachin cannot but Dravid can do that. Clearly Dravid is better than Tendulkar..forget about Lara

Great players are remembered by their great knocks and almost all his 8 double centuries were fantastic not to forget the number of times he had crossed the 300 mark.

Almost all his centuries have come at a crucial time and well remembered compared to summing up the odd centures in a lost series scored by Tendulkar. Even on the overall number of runs scored he has a fanstastic record even at the ODI level not to forget he always reserves his best for Test matches.

Talent wise its tough to differenciate between the two but in terms of temperament and achivements Lara is miles ahead of Tendulkar. Tendulakar must curb his ads, celluliod image and concentrate more if he hopes to compete with Lara.

 

[vijay]

Maybe you could learn the England language first.
Oh and keep your gay fantasies to yourself.

I said autograph.

 

[Spoony]

Its not even your first sport.

And even then we're better than India. And have always been.

We won in India back in 85. We felt sorry for you in 86.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Amol. I bet you dream about giving Sachin a blowjob.

Its a little like how i hear some Manchester United supporters talk about Robbo. Because from what i heard, he carried a very average Manchester United team for about a decade.

 

[Spoony]

So done then. Lets see what wev learnt today:
1. Sri Lanka > India
2. Dravid > Sachin
3. Amol likes to shag teenage boys.

Agree.

 

[vijay]

Wrong............again
Sachin carried us from 94-2000 and did a lot more than Lara.
Lara still had the bowling attack of walsh and ambrose , we had feck all.

Dravid has become effective off late. Ganguly hit peak after 99 WC

Ganguly was already winning matches for India before WC 99. He had won more matches against Pakistan by himself compared to the rest of the team put together. The trophy hauls during Azharuddins second stint was mainly due to Ganguly apart from Tendulkar

 

[Spoony]

Its a little like how i hear some Manchester United supporters talk about Robbo. Because from what i heard, he carried a very average Manchester United team for about a decade.

Yes, but Tendulkar couldn't drink a skinfull and still perform the next day.

 

[crappycraperson]

Lara can win Test matches and series on his own. Sachin cannot but Dravid can do that. Clearly Dravid is better than Tendulkar..forget about Lara

Great players are remembered by their great knocks and almost all his 8 double centuries were fantastic not to forget the number of times he had crossed the 300 mark.

Almost all his centuries have come at a crucial time and well remembered compared to summing up the odd centures in a lost series scored by Tendulkar. Even on the overall number of runs scored he has a fanstastic record even at the ODI level not to forget he always reserves his best for Test matches.

Talent wise its tough to differenciate between the two but in terms of temperament and achivements Lara is miles ahead of Tendulkar. Tendulakar must curb his ads, celluliod image and concentrate more if he hopes to compete with Lara.

You seem to be hung up on Sachin doing loads of ads.

Tendulkar has not performed in 4th innings like Lara hence people moaning that he can not win matches on his own. He has had enough 1st, 2nd and 3rd innings knocks, crucial knocks which have won matches and series for India.

As far as ODI goes, there is not even a contest, Sachin is miles better.
In tests its close, you could go for Lara if you value match winning innings more, Sachin if you value overall consistency more.

Overall Sachin is better.
Dravid needs another brilliant season before he can be compared to Sachin.

 

[crappycraperson]

Ganguly was already winning matches for India before WC 99. He had won more matches against Pakistan by himself compared to the rest of the team put together. The trophy hauls during Azharuddins second stint was mainly due to Ganguly apart from Tendulkar

Thats false
You obviously hate Sachin and refuse to give him credit for anything.
No point debating with you.

Though it would be nice if you would finally accept that Gavaskar and Viv belonged to the same generation.

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Yes, but Tendulkar couldn't drink a skinfull and still perform the next day.

I didnt understand that..

Anyways you get what i mean, its a similar appreciation.

 

[crappycraperson]

I bet slabber and spoony won't show up in cricket threads when we trounce them in upcoming series.
They already started making excuses the other day.

 

[vijay]

You seem to be hung up on Sachin doing loads of ads.

Tendulkar has not performed in 4th innings like Lara hence people moaning that he can not win matches on his own. He has had enough 1st, 2nd and 3rd innings knocks, crucial knocks which have won matches and series for India.

As far as ODI goes, there is not even a contest, Sachin is miles better.
In tests its close, you could go for Lara if you value match winning innings more, Sachin if you value overall consistency more.

Overall Sachin is better.
Dravid needs another brilliant season before he can be compared to Sachin.

Lara has got more first innings and third innings centuries than Tendulkar amd in terms of MOM awarded for the test matches, Tendulkar is no where in reckoning. He has hardly won much....

Lara > Tendulkar (overall)

Dravid > Tendulkar (now)

 

[amolbhatia50k]

Wev also learnt another thing.
Vijay has an insane hatred towards Sachin. And Crappy. And the rest of the caf.

 

[Sultan]

No one has mentioned Ambrose and Walsh...