Brian Charles Lara

Spoony said:
He had a longish career, Slabbs. 376 wickets. Don't get me wrong I think was fantastic. But arguments can be made for a few quickies. Here's some stats:


Tests 60 12680 5898 249 8/92 14/149 23.68 2.79 50.92 Holding

Tests 81 17584 7876 376 7/22 11/89 20.94 2.68 46.76 Marshall

Tests 70 18467 8493 355 7/83 11/123 23.92 2.75 52.01 Lillee

Tests 88 19458 8258 362 8/58 14/116 22.81 2.54 53.75 Imran

Tests 87 16224 8788 373 7/76 13/135 23.56 3.25 43.49 Waqar

Tests 58 13169 5433 259 6/56 9/108 20.97 2.47 50.84 Garner

Tests 104 22627 9779 414 7/119 11/110 23.62 2.59 54.65 Akram

Tests 86 21918 9611 431 9/52 15/123 22.29 2.63 50.85 Hadlee

He's got the best average and the best strike rate.
 
Viv Richards: 1974-1991
Sunil Gavaskar: 1971-1987

How do they belong to " different generation" ?
 
vijay said:
Chappels, Gavaskar, Kapil Dev, Imran, Miandad all rate Holding as a tougher bowler to face than Marshall.

Simple

Holding > Marshall
:lol:

By the same token almost all the prominent players today have been quoted as saying Sachin is better than Lara.

But you claim otherwise. Eh?
 
vijay said:
I've given you the explanation. its for you to decide.
It doesnt matter if Sunny peaked early and Viv later. They belonged to same era like Sachin and Lara.
You should accept that you are clueless and save yourself from further embarassment.
 
Slabber said:
I disagree.

why?

Holding had more variety than Marshall.

Marshall depended a lot on his pace and once he lost his pace he did struggle. Like all other West Indian quickies , he didnt depend on the wickets to generate pace but Gavaskar and Kapil sorted him out on the flat pitches in India. Wickets might say other wise but Holding was tough to handle any where in the world.
 
Slabber said:
He's got the best average and the best strike rate.


No. Waqar's got the best strike rate.

And for once I agree with Vij, I think Holding was better.
 
vijay said:
We agree with a lot of other things except for your unknown antagonism towards the Indians.


I have nothing against the nappy wearing lot.

Great bunch to wind up. Always take the bait.

You don't realise how much fun we have. Cyberly speaking of course.
 
vijay said:
Cheers Spoony....

But abuse dosent make a discussion more enjoyable.

It does.

And it's not really abuse. It's just a bit of a laff. Even more funny when the other person thinks you're serious.
 
vijay said:
I am not here to read your spastic one line thoughts thicko. Tell me why Marshall is better than Holding

Given his relative lack of height, his bowling ability was truly sensational. The best of all time and a joy to watch, I'd say. I don't care whether you think Holding was better.
 
vijay said:
I am feck bothered about your cut and paste arguments.
May because you are wrong?

First of all you messed it up, by claiming you were listing best batsmen from their respective generation while listing both Sunny and Viv who belonged to same era.
Then made idiotic hyperbolic statements like Lara is head and shoulders above any other from his era.
There after to show that Holding > Marshall, used testimony by other cricketers who played against them. That parameter would effectively nullify you claim that Lara is better than Sachin, given the fact almost every prominent cricketer like Warne, waugh, Akram have gone on record to say he is better than Lara.
Again I advise to accept your shortcoming and avoid futher embarrassment
 
Slabber said:
Given his relative lack of height, his bowling ability was truly sensational. The best of all time and a joy to watch, I'd say. I don't care whether you think Holding was better.

Marshall was a great bowler but why are you relating height with pace?

Garner and Bruce Reid were taller? Are they the fastest?

Clarke was only as tall as Marshall but he wasn't slow either.
 
crappycraperson said:
May because you are wrong?

First of all you messed it up, by claiming you were listing best batsmen from their respective generation while listing both Sunny and Viv who belonged to same era.
Then made idiotic hyperbolic statements like Lara is head and shoulders above any other from his era.
There after to show that Holding > Marshall, used testimony by other cricketers who played against them. That parameter would effectively nullify you claim that Lara is better than Sachin, given the fact almost every prominent cricketer like Warne, waugh, Akram have gone on record to say he is better than Lara.
Again I advise to accept your shortcoming and avoid futher embarrassment

I again suggest you to look in to your career rather than wasting your time and dad's money on the internet.
 
vijay said:
I again suggest you to look in to your career rather than wasting your time and dad's money on the internet.
You have proven once again that you are clueless idiot with shite opnions.
 
You have proven once again that you are clueless idiot with shite opnions uncapable of making a coherent argument.
And you might as well change that "dad's" part to "mom's".
 
crappycraperson said:
You have proven once again that you are clueless idiot with shite opnions uncapable of making a coherent argument.
And you might as well change that "dad's" part to "mom's".

I again suggest you to look in to your career rather than wasting your time and dad's money on the internet. .
 
You have proven once again that you are clueless idiot with shite opinions uncapable of making a coherent argument.
 
vijay said:
I dont need to prove my brilliancy in an internet forum.

You do. Everyone thinks you're a complete waste of space. Everyone.
 
vijay said:
I again suggest you to look in to your career rather than wasting your time and dad's money on the internet. .
You have proven once again that you are a clueless idiot with shite opinions uncapable of making a coherent argument as verified by other posters as well.

I will post it once again:

First of all you messed it up, by claiming you were listing best batsmen from their respective generation while listing both Sunny and Viv who belonged to same era.
Then made idiotic hyperbolic statements like Lara is head and shoulders above any other from his era.
There after to show that Holding > Marshall, used testimony by other cricketers who played against them. That parameter would effectively nullify you claim that Lara is better than Sachin, given the fact almost every prominent cricketer like Warne, waugh, Akram have gone on record to say he is better than Lara.
Again I advise to accept your shortcomings and avoid futher embarrassment.
 
Slabber said:
To be fair, he does know a bit about computers.

Not as much as me, I bet. Which makes him redundant, because you can all come to me with any problems you might have*.

* I'll ignore them, as I can't be arsed. Just to be clear on that.
 
crappycraperson said:
You have proven once again that you are a clueless idiot with shite opinions uncapable of making a coherent argument as verified by other posters as well.

I will post it once again:

First of all you messed it up, by claiming you were listing best batsmen from their respective generation while listing both Sunny and Viv who belonged to same era.
Then made idiotic hyperbolic statements like Lara is head and shoulders above any other from his era.

There after to show that Holding > Marshall, used testimony by other cricketers who played against them. That parameter would effectively nullify you claim that Lara is better than Sachin, given the fact almost every prominent cricketer like Warne, waugh, Akram have gone on record to say he is better than Lara.
Again I advise to accept your shortcomings and avoid futher embarrassment.


You havent watched the cricket in the 80's so its better to listen than resorting to cut and paste arguments. Read Post No 158 ...If you can really read and understand

Also Lara is better than Tendulkar.