Brian Charles Lara

arnie sidebottom said:
(Extracted from random site)

"Rahul Dravid has now aggregated 4,193 runs in 45 `away` Tests keeping an average of 63.53. His average is easily the highest among all the contemporary batsmen and fourth highest among all-time greats (with a minimum qualification of 1,000 runs) after Australia`s Don Bradman (102.85), England`s Ken Barrington (69.18) and Wally Hammond (66.33)."

That's a more than decent record.
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He is no doubt very impressive, some record that...still love watching Sachin/Lara above Dravid.
 
Sultan said:
He is no doubt very impressive, some record that...still love watching Sachin/Lara above Dravid.
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Dravid's a grafter.

Vaughan's more talented than Dravid.
 
Spoony said:
Dravid's a grafter.

Vaughan's more talented than Dravid.
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I will leave Amol and Crappy to answer this, they are obviously more knowledgeable about Indian cricket than myself.
 
arnie sidebottom said:
Vijay - are you just winding me up about Flintoff? He's not the finished article yet, granted, but he's already a more consistent bowler than Botham, and he could yet turn out to be the better batsman.

Botham never showed much against the West Indies with bat or ball, Freddie more than held his own against the modern day equivalent (Aussies).

Early days yet, and certainly not a poor man's version.
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Agree. He would end up as a better player than Botham when he retires..
 
Spoony said:
Dravid's a grafter.

Vaughan's more talented than Dravid.
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You really are clueless. Vaughan is miles behind all these great players were talking about.

Dravid has a better technique than both Sachin and Lara. His defence is far superior whereas the other two obviously have more flair. But as a test batsman Rahul is up there with them, quite easily.. his consistancy, the way he plays when the team is in need, his away record.. and now the way he has peaked in the last few years.. playing more agressively and developing into a fine one day player.. its been quite outstanding.

Its like in football, where the players with all the fancy tricks get all the attention.. Dravid is ATM better than the both of them. And Sultan, obviously Sachin and Lara are so much better to watch, no doubt about that, but that has little to do with effectiveness.. those who have seen Dravid the last few years will tell you how much hes evolved, hes no longer the guy who gets stuck on one score for half an hour.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
And Sultan, obviously Sachin and Lara are so much better to watch, no doubt about that, but that has little to do with effectiveness.. those who have seen Dravid the last few years will tell you how much hes evolved, hes no longer the guy who gets stuck on one score for half an hour.
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I agree with you assessment Amol, he has been in phenomenal form last few years, I personally think he has a better temperament than Sachin and Lara which helps his lack of natural talent.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
You really are clueless. Vaughan is miles behind all these great players were talking about.

Dravid has a better technique than both Sachin and Lara. His defence is far superior whereas the other two obviously have more flair. But as a test batsman Rahul is up there with them, quite easily.. his consistancy, the way he plays when the team is in need, his away record.. and now the way he has peaked in the last few years.. playing more agressively and developing into a fine one day player.. its been quite outstanding.

Its like in football, where the players with all the fancy tricks get all the attention.. Dravid is ATM better than the both of them. And Sultan, obviously Sachin and Lara are so much better to watch, no doubt about that, but that has little to do with effectiveness.. those who have seen Dravid the last few years will tell you how much hes evolved, hes no longer the guy who gets stuck on one score for half an hour.
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Wrong Sachin has a better batting technique than Dravid or any one else.

Lara depends a lot more on aggression and temperament rather than technique.

Dravid might be in a better form in the recent seasons but he is not as good as Lara and Sachin.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
You really are clueless. Vaughan is miles behind all these great players were talking about.
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He's miles behind Lara, fo'sure. But he's ahead of Dravid in terms of talent. Dravid is a glorified Collingwood.
 
Sultan said:
I agree with you assessment Amol, he has been in phenomenal form last few years, I personally think he has a better temperament than Sachin and Lara which helps his lack of natural talent.
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It depends, in terms of defence and solid technique, he is near perfect. He doesnt have the flair of Sachin and Lara ofcourse.

vijay said:
Wrong Sachin has a better batting technique than Dravid or any one else.

Lara depends a lot more on aggression and temperament rather than technique.

Dravid might be in a better form in the recent seasons but he is not as good as Lara and Sachin.
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Dravid has the best technique in the game, atleast for test cricket. He plays the ball later than anyone else and his concentration is second to none.. On current form he is obviously better than them.. i said that IF he continues like this, by the time they are all done, he will be up there as a test batsman with them.

And keep quite Spooney. Your deluded as to what talent means.. how fast you score doesnt have anything to do with how much talent one has. Dravid has a god given gift of magnificent technique and brilliant concentration.. there are few who even come close. Vaughan is just a decent batsman, nothing more.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
And keep quite Spooney. Your deluded as to what talent means.. how fast you score doesnt have anything to do with how much talent one has. Dravid has a god given gift of magnificent technique and brilliant concentration.. there are few who even come close. Vaughan is just a decent batsman, nothing more.
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Quiet.

Spoony.

You're.

Dravid isn't fit to lace Vaughan's boots.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
It depends, in terms of defence and solid technique, he is near perfect. He doesnt have the flair of Sachin and Lara ofcourse.

Dravid has the best technique in the game, atleast for test cricket. He plays the ball later than anyone else and his concentration is second to none.. On current form he is obviously better than them.. i said that IF he continues like this, by the time they are all done, he will be up there as a test batsman with them.
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Dravid is defensively strong but he is a bit tentative outside the offstump -if you can get hold of some old footages of Martin Crowe or Gavaskar or Duleep Mendis, you can very well compare and make out the difference. Sehwag and Laxman (if his feet gets moving) are confident and more aggressive on the offside than Dravid.

Dravid can pull and hook but he is better in avoiding short pitched deliveries where as Sachin can guage the bounce early and can get in to better postions .... overall more comfortable in handling short pitched deliveries.

Whenever the good length deliveries rises up to his chest level , (in WACA, Gabba, Wellington..etc) Dravid's foot movements are tentative and often gets caught in two minds.

Dravid is mentally strong, has good cricketing brains and stamina to fight it out in the middle. But technically Sachin is at a different level.
 
vijay said:
Dravid is mentally strong, has good cricketing brains and stamina to fight it out in the middle. But technically Sachin is at a different level.
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Very well put Vijay, agree entirely with your analysis-would you say Lara is on a different level to Dravid ?
 
Sultan said:
Very well put Vijay, agree entirely with your analysis-would you say Lara is on a different level to Dravid ?
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Tough question.

When Lara struggles his footwork, stroke selection would appear clumsy and he would get in to tangles but when he is on form he can dispatch the same delivery with the same movement.

Lara is not powerful hitter like Greendige or Richards and also he dosen't depend on technique to score. Not a text book cricketer like Dravid to watch and learn the art of batsmanship but a natural talent. Dravid's strength is defending and he puts in a lot of soft hands in caressing and taking the pace of the ball but Lara can never defend..

Different types of players... Hard to compare...
 
dravid is class but isnt as good as tendualkar when there both at the peak and lara is better than both of them when all three are at their peak
 
crappycraperson said:
Hahah it took you 2 posts to come up with that

Slabberetard
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That's because your name is an insult in itself.

And TheRedFlag invented Slabberetard.
 
On pure talent Lara, Sachin, and Inzy are the best 3 batsmen in World Cricket.
 
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