Brian Charles Lara

arnie sidebottom said:
Who do you mean?

I think he means Freddy, if so, he really is on a wind up...Freddy is way better than Botham.
 
Dubai_Devil said:
9 pages of drivel.

What a great thread.

:lol: How been to the newbies forum today, now there's some drivel...what a group we have.
 
Great performance by the WI right now against the Aussies. Good bowling and two great catches. Top class stuff.
 
Congratulation Lara on a fantastic achievment in a poor West Indies side. (Sorry to have gone of topic)
 
vijay said:
I dont need verification and validations from 20 year old geeks posting on the
internet.
Buuuuuutt..I thought the honor of being the geek of the Caf was only reserved for me. :wenger:

You're an idiot of the highest order and a first class prick.I suggest you go back to your sad lonely life and stop putting ALL the Indian posters under a bad light.

Waste of space.
 
Lara's definitely one of the best batsmen ever but I would've put my money on him scoring a ton or a double in this test.He's done that so often in the past in dead rubber situations that its quite comical since he ends up scoring almost all of his team's runs.

His record against the best teams is phenomenal and I think thats what sets him apart.But to an extent its the mediocrity of the WI side that makes him look better than he actually is.

If you asked some of the best bowlers in the world, they'd say Tendulkar is much better than Lara and much tougher to bowl too.Although IMO Dravid's been the best Test batsman lately.You'd hardly find anyone as consistent and as sound in technique as him.(Kallis maybe)
 
DONADO said:
Buuuuuutt..I thought the honor of being the geek of the Caf was only reserved for me. :wenger:

You're an idiot of the highest order and a first class prick.I suggest you go back to your sad lonely life and stop putting ALL the Indian posters under a bad light.

Waste of space.

who are you? :confused:
 
Shah786 said:
I like Lara better simply because he has a cool batting stance

Earlier cricket was the sport in the carribean that gave them an identity.

Now with many of the kids switching over to American sports, mainly to fight against poverty, Lara carries the hopes of the Carribean cricket.

He is the only class player among a shite lot but still scores a lot.
 
DONADO said:
Lara's definitely one of the best batsmen ever but I would've put my money on him scoring a ton or a double in this test.He's done that so often in the past in dead rubber situations that its quite comical since he ends up scoring almost all of his team's runs.

His record against the best teams is phenomenal and I think thats what sets him apart.But to an extent its the mediocrity of the WI side that makes him look better than he actually is.

If you asked some of the best bowlers in the world, they'd say Tendulkar is much better than Lara and much tougher to bowl too.Although IMO Dravid's been the best Test batsman lately.You'd hardly find anyone as consistent and as sound in technique as him.(Kallis maybe)
Exactly.
Its quite funny actually, for about 6 or 7 years(probabily from 96 to around 2003) Sachin was considered easily the best batsman in the world.. just now over the last half a year or so, while Sachin has been injured, some people are beginning to debate it. Memories are very short.

I agree about the last bit. Over the last 2 oe 3 years, Dravid has easily been the best batsman in the world.. and probabily even the best cricketer. Hes been consistant, hes got big scores, hes scored at home and abroad.. now hes one of the best even in the ODI game.. and now a fine skipper. IMO when he hangs up his boots, hel only be behind Sachin as an alltime great for India(batsman).
 
DONADO said:
But to an extent its the mediocrity of the WI side that makes him look better than he actually is.


That's unfair, cricket is not as much a team sport as many others, the fact he is producing the goods even in a weak WI team says a lot for his character. A lot of others would just go through the motions.
 
Sultan said:
That's unfair, cricket is not as much a team sport as many others, the fact he is producing the goods even in a weak WI team says a lot for his character. A lot of others would just go through the motions.
I mentioned Andy Flower. Zimbabwe have always been far worse than the Windies(although its getting close now).. He has an average up there with the very best. Should we consider him better than the Laras and Tendulkars?

Iv given my opinion on the matter in this thread too many times.. staying away from it from now on.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
I mentioned Andy Flower. Zimbabwe have always been far worse than the Windies(although its getting close now).. He has an average up there with the very best. Should we consider him better than the Laras and Tendulkars?

Iv given my opinion on the matter in this thread too many times.. staying away from it from now on.

Andy Flower does not come close to greatness, Sachin and Lara are legends. Dravid is class but again he is in a lower category to the above two...
 
Sultan said:
Andy Flower does not come close to greatness, Sachin and Lara are legends. Dravid is class but again he is in al lower category to the above two...
I dont believe so. Sachin and Lara are more agressive and for that reason Rahul has always remained in Sachins shadows. But these last two or three years have been his.. easily the best batsman in the world for this period.. and he keeps getting better. IMO if he keeps on going at this rate, as a test batsman hel be up there with Sachin. Quite amazingly hes turned a corner in one day cricket. All this, and now leading India.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
Sachin>Dravid>Lara(Overall)


Dravid would be in a category of about 10 other class batsmen around at the moment...
 
amolbhatia100 said:
I dont believe so. Sachin and Lara are more agressive and for that reason Rahul has always remained in Sachins shadows. But these last two or three years have been his.. easily the best batsman in the world for this period.. and he keeps getting better. IMO if he keeps on going at this rate, as a test batsman hel be up there with Sachin. Quite amazingly hes turned a corner in one day cricket. All this, and now leading India.

No matter what Dravid does for the rest of his career he will not touch Sachin/Lara. Why are you comparing Rahul with Sachin ? in your own words Sachin has been basically injured last few years and in the twilight of his career. Sachin and Lara are both legends, accept it.
 
Davo said:
Dravid indeed

How can people be so clueless?

(Extracted from random site)

"Rahul Dravid has now aggregated 4,193 runs in 45 `away` Tests keeping an average of 63.53. His average is easily the highest among all the contemporary batsmen and fourth highest among all-time greats (with a minimum qualification of 1,000 runs) after Australia`s Don Bradman (102.85), England`s Ken Barrington (69.18) and Wally Hammond (66.33)."

That's a more than decent record.
 
Vijay - are you just winding me up about Flintoff? He's not the finished article yet, granted, but he's already a more consistent bowler than Botham, and he could yet turn out to be the better batsman.

Botham never showed much against the West Indies with bat or ball, Freddie more than held his own against the modern day equivalent (Aussies).

Early days yet, and certainly not a poor man's version.
 
arnie sidebottom said:
Vijay - are you just winding me up about Flintoff? He's not the finished article yet, granted, but he's already a more consistent bowler than Botham, and he could yet turn out be the better batsman.

Botham never showed much against the West Indies with bat or ball, Freddie more than held his own against the modern day equivalent (Aussies).

Early days yet, and certainly not a poor man's version.


Botham only did it against an average Oz side.

Flintoff's been great against the best team in the world. And looks by far our best seamer in Pakistan. . . flat pitch capital of the world.