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I'm saying the focus is on how neither can win the league when the reality is that just being in with a chance should be applauded.
Is there that much focus on Liverpool being unable to win the title this season? If so it's either from relieved united fans (here) or those that got their hopes up too high. Liverpool we're never capable of winning the title this season and they've done a great job at improving how much they have and I think they've been praised loads for it.

As for arsenal, I didn't think they would, but their achievement of being right up there isn't all that miraculous. It's a fine squad where some key players have improved big time this season and 40 million has been spent to strengthen. Your team is doing extremely well and credit where it's due but I don't think it's a case of "they should be applauded for just being up there" IMO. The squad is worthy.
 
Last year every 'big' team was going through some transition. Spurs, Arsenal, Chelsea, City.

This season, they're not. The league is actually strong at the top this year and I think it'll show in the CL too.

So Spurs signing 9 players and United,Chelsea and City all under new management does not qualify as transition, surprising then that Arsenal and Liverpool are looking good against these other non transitional big teams :wenger:

Your not exactly making a fist of this Al
 
Indeed. We drop points at villa and still increase the gap to your lot to six points.

Worse than that! You actually dropped points at Anfield, to Villa. But yeah, I imagine you're delighted to be 6 clear of us alright. It was all you could have hoped for being 5 points ahead and having Villa at home while we travelled to Stamford Bridge.
 
Is there that much focus on Liverpool being unable to win the title this season? If so it's either from relieved united fans (here) or those that got their hopes up too high. Liverpool we're never capable of winning the title this season and they've done a great job at improving how much they have and I think they've been praised loads for it.

As for arsenal, I didn't think they would, but their achievement of being right up there isn't all that miraculous. It's a fine squad where some key players have improved big time this season and 40 million has been spent to strengthen. Your team is doing extremely well and credit where it's due but I don't think it's a case of "they should be applauded for just being up there" IMO. The squad is worthy.


I know it's a cliche and everything, but the sheer expenditure of City and Chelsea dwarfs what anyone else has done.

It's all very well saying we spent £45m but then City spent over £100m last summer and no-one even looks up. It does have to be accepted. Anyone close to them is punching well above their weight.
 
So Spurs signing 9 players and United,Chelsea and City all under new management does not qualify as transition, surprising then that Arsenal and Liverpool are looking good against these other non transitional big teams :wenger:

Your not exactly making a fist of this Al


Just because you hire a new manager doesn't mean you're in transition.

Chelsea, for example, were bedding in Oscar and Hazard last season. Now they're playing to their best. There are plenty of examples.
 
I know it's a cliche and everything, but the sheer expenditure of City and Chelsea dwarfs what anyone else has done.

It's all very well saying we spent £45m but then City spent over £100m last summer and no-one even looks up. It does have to be accepted. Anyone close to them is punching well above their weight.
Not really. They started the season awfully so given that, I don't think so. It's hardly like bayern who barely drop points, ever.

And Chelsea aren't that good this season IMO. They themselves are getting better results than their football deserves.

Arsenal have maybe over performer slightly but not a huge deal IMO. They've improved a lot, I'd say.
 
Just because you hire a new manager doesn't mean you're in transition.

Chelsea, for example, were bedding in Oscar and Hazard last season. Now they're playing to their best. There are plenty of examples.

They have looked awful at times, don't be drawn in by today's result Chelsea had a great deal of luck and not just with United's injury roster, it could have been 0-2 before the deflected goal.
Of course a new manager causes a transition,m style of play, team talks everything changes, see your posts on Sherwood (I am guessing at that :lol: but I bet they exist). City are bedding in Negredo and Navas and Chelsea Willian and hatrick hero Eto along with new managers, I am unclear on what you classify as transition but for me a change of manager is the greatest one of all.
 
They have looked awful at times, don't be drawn in by today's result Chelsea had a great deal of luck and not just with United's injury roster, it could have been 0-2 before the deflected goal.
Of course a new manager causes a transition,m style of play, team talks everything changes, see your posts on Sherwood (I am guessing at that :lol: but I bet they exist). City are bedding in Negredo and Navas and Chelsea Willian and hatrick hero Eto along with new managers, I am unclear on what you classify as transition but for me a change of manager is the greatest one of all.

Bedding in new players doesn't mean you're in transition otherwise every team would always be in transition. Bringing in a new manager doesn't either, Real, Barcelona and Bayern being case in points.
 
Bedding in new players doesn't mean you're in transition otherwise every team would always be in transition. Bringing in a new manager doesn't either, Real, Barcelona and Bayern being case in points.

Ok now I am intrigued as to what constitutes transition, if it's not new players or even a new manager what is it then ? Perhaps a new manager and new players, apparently 9 players being brought in does not even constitute it, is it actually just a mythical word ?
 
Ok now I am intrigued as to what constitutes transition, if it's not new players or even a new manager what is it then ? Perhaps a new manager and new players, apparently 9 players being brought in does not even constitute it, is it actually just a mythical word ?

Spurs is a transition, I'd agree. Chelsea definitely isn't though, IMO.
 
Worse than that! You actually dropped points at Anfield, to Villa. But yeah, I imagine you're delighted to be 6 clear of us alright. It was all you could have hoped for being 5 points ahead and having Villa at home while we travelled to Stamford Bridge.


Meh. You still have a much tougher fixture list ahead of you than we do.
 
Meh. You still have a much tougher fixture list ahead of you than we do.


Not many games easier than Villa at home to be fair. Its was a bad result. Everton are highly likely to be ahead of you lot after tomorrow. You have to worry about more than United.
 
Spurs is a transition, I'd agree. Chelsea definitely isn't though, IMO.
Chelsea,City and United the three best squads in the league all with new managers suddenly find themselves chasing Arsenal and Liverpool ? Why though why did that happen, Uniteds case is more isolated as the squad is in need of attention and has suffered a 30% loss in its best playing staff but the rest isn't rocket science.
 
Not many games easier than Villa at home to be fair. Its was a bad result. Everton are highly likely to be ahead of you lot after tomorrow. You have to worry about more than United.


Everton are coming to anfield next.
 
Everton are coming to anfield next.


Wont be a problem for Everton. Anfield is no biggy for any of the top teams. They always have a great chance for the last 4-5 years. Martinez will press you high up the pitch and probably win.
 
Southampton and Villa did it successfully. No surprise Gerrard was DM in both those games. But its so obvious now, heck even we're discussing it here, then Brendan now knows about it. Hopefully this time he's got a surprise, we're going to need it. Everton are playing on helium.
 
Spurs is a transition, I'd agree. Chelsea definitely isn't though, IMO.
I more or less agree with you. Transition isn't a black and white thing for me, it's all about context. It's not 'a new manager, new players', it's not that simple. It's about the structure of the club, the period it's going through, the former season...

I agree that Chelsea isn't in transition: last season they worked on the squad and integrated youngsters, and especially this season they got a new manager who knows the club and know English football. Mourinho would have been quite settled the minute he arrived in London (didn't he have a house there as well?). It's not really a transition year for them, I wouldn't say.

Spurs of course are. They've made a mess of the managerial situation and overhauled the entire squad, trying to bed new players with different profiles (established players, potential players, players from other leagues, etc.). I overestimated their chances at the beginning of the season, not exactly analysing the impact these changes would have correctly.

Utd, of course, are a team in transition, especially because of the Ferguson factor, but also because the squad needs some trimming and has been squeezed to its maximum potential and needs some energy injected, for me.

This may be more debatable, but I also consider City a team in transition. This is because of the context, not so much the fact they have a new manager, but because they arrived at the end of a managerial tenure that brought something new for them (success) but didn't know how the manage the aftermath (remotivating the squad for more success). This is mainly a team of mercenaries, and the idea is to forge them into something else, a team that can fight on multiple fronts, that can be a serious contender year after year. Honestly, their title challenge last year was laughable, but not entirely surprising given the profile of players in their squad. Turning that around this season, changing the mentalities of the players, injecting something new to the spirit of the club (it saddens me to write this as a Utd fan) warrants them being in a transition year for me. Not everything has been going their way, but next year they'll be a much more settled team. That they're starting to be so strong in the league now is a testament to Pelligrini's work so far, in my opinion.
 
Brendan Rodgers said:
"It was a brilliant team performance with brilliant defensive organisation, clinical in front of goal. Scored four and could have had more; a brilliant win for us."

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Wont be a problem for Everton. Anfield is no biggy for any of the top teams. They always have a great chance for the last 4-5 years. Martinez will press you high up the pitch and probably win.
Oof!
 
Southampton and Villa did it successfully. No surprise Gerrard was DM in both those games. But its so obvious now, heck even we're discussing it here, then Brendan now knows about it. Hopefully this time he's got a surprise, we're going to need it. Everton are playing on helium.

Boy did that take me and Martinez by surprise. Sit back and wait for the high pressing game. David Brent, what does he know?
 
Wont be a problem for Everton. Anfield is no biggy for any of the top teams. They always have a great chance for the last 4-5 years. Martinez will press you high up the pitch and probably win.

Greg knows his football.
 
Shit gif in the football forum alert but this cracked me up...


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Oh come on! Top 4 has been the objective for you for a couple of seasons now surely!

It's been an objective for the club, but as far as the fans are concerned we've seen the team finish below the likes of United, City, Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs, & even Everton, for the past 2 or 3 seasons, so it's been a case of hope more than expectation.
 
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