Brentan Rodgers

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Barney,

I know you asked me not to respond to you on here because I hurt your feelings and I have tried to stop hurting them but you post some of the most ludicrous things ever so I can't help myself, I'm sorry, you are going to have to just put me on ignore.

Barney said:
1. The number of tackles and interceptions he wins is a pretty bad way to judge a defender. For instance, if you stick a defender in Bayern's system he'll probably tackle less than someone in Burnley's. Having watched him play this season, I've not been impressed. Of course he can still turn things around as he's coming to a bigger club in a new league, but uo until this point he has been bad.

2. I praise United players plenty. It's just that it's the criticisms that I make are the only thing that goes noticed. I've praised De Gea, Smalling, Rafael, Valencia, Young, Hernandez, Carrick, Shaw, Rooney, and so on many times in the past
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Actually no, that's an important stat for defenders, it might not be the only way to judge a player but those numbers are of interest and it is one way. This philosophy of yours seemingly shared by your manager is probably the reason your defence is so rubbish, just like all the other teams in the world that play with 10 players and a Goalkeeper, he wants only 11 players, how is that working out for him?

Just like all the other teams want defenders that tackle and intercept but he doesn't care about that and anyway if you check whoscored you'll see Boetang 2.2 tackles and 2 interceptions per game still better than your players and they don't even have as many chances like your defenders probably nowhere near, even Benatia is doing the numbers your players are, imagine if these guys were in your defence.

And anyway it's a useless point, you aren't Bayern Munich, both United and Liverpool have had defensive struggles, we can look at interceptions and tackles to get an idea of where Rojo ranks compared to your flops.

I'm not even going to argue this point anymore, I'll let your manager do it for me, from his 180 page dossier that he fooled your owners with:

The only statistic I want to know is how good we‘ve been with the ball. In my upbringing, on my travels, the statistic that interested me was if you were better than your opponent with the ball, you have a 79 per cent chance of winning the game.

‘Basically, you have an eight out of ten chance of winning, so I’ve followed that my career. You may lose the ninth or tenth, but I have been devoted to that. It won’t always be perfect but I’d rather control and dominate games and have that possibility rather than wait for something to happen.

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Barney said:
He wouldn't play agead of Gerrard or Henderson and Coutinho would probably be picked ahead of him too. Not a chance he would start for us.
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That's why Brendan Rodgers is where he is without Suarez because his team selection has been awful, I'm saying it, United fans are saying it, Liverpool fans are saying it and now i'm reading articles on BBC and Sky Sports saying it, I agree he won't be started ahead of those inferior players but that's exactly why you guys are flops, because you have a manager that idolises his fecking landlord, I mean what tenant does that.

Barney said:
Heh. The player from your midfield that I think Rodgers would love is Carrick.
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Yeah he wouldn't love Angel di Maria who is a midfielder for us, that's why so many of his transfers have flopped but your in denial about that since you think some magical committee signs these guys so no point arguing this with you.

There is something seriously wrong when a noob calls you out for constantly slating united players yet massively overrating your own.

I mean somebody posted stats on Joe Allen who was like 0, 0, 0, zero in everything and you were like no he's a good player, he's fecking Cleverley with a mask on yet you always slated Cleverley, wake up man.
 
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Just fyi - Maldini used to make less than a tackle pr game. and IIRC ferguson also admitted at one point that being hoodwinked by the importance of this stat was one of the reasons he sold Stam as he thought he had lost it due to his tackle stats going down, which had later had to concede was a mistake.

That said, high stats in that department is never a bad thing. Though I think it is actually more relevant for midfielders than centrebacks.
 
Empire said:
There is something seriously wrong when a noob calls you out for constantly slating united players
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Again, this is a myth. I slate certain United players, but I also do the same to certain Liverpool players. I've praised countless United players in the past.

Empire said:
Yeah he wouldn't love Angel di Maria who is a midfielder for us,
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Wasn't including him, but yeah, of course he would.

Empire said:
I mean somebody posted stats on Joe Allen who was like 0, 0, 0, zero in everything and you were like no he's a good player
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Eh? I believe what I actually said was that he had a good game. And funnily enough multiple match reports agree with me!
 
Barney said:
I believe my actual words were:
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Irony :lol:, not sure what you think of your posts then.

Your exact words were:

Would you mind stop replying to my posts? I dislike reading your constant stream of shite. If you think I'm an idiot for making predictions, that's fine, I just don't need someone like you constantly replying telling me so. I don't mind people laughing at me, but you are one of the select few that I cannot stand.
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We both watch the football but see completely different things, I look at Joe Allen but I just don't see what you see, or Brendan Rodgers, or Stevie G, or Lovren and the rest, sorry for having an opinion.
 
Empire said:
Irony :lol:, not sure what you think of your posts then.

Your exact words were:



We both watch the football but see completely different things, I look at Joe Allen but I just don't see what you see, or Brendan Rodgers, or Stevie G, or Lovren and the rest, sorry for having an opinion.
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Wrong font, wolf?
 
B20 said:
Just fyi - Maldini used to make less than a tackle pr game. and IIRC ferguson also admitted at one point that being hoodwinked by the importance of this stat was one of the reasons he sold Stam as he thought he had lost it due to his tackle stats going down, which had later had to concede was a mistake.

That said, high stats in that department is never a bad thing. Though I think it is actually more relevant for midfielders than centrebacks.
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At his peak, Ferdinand hardly ever made tackles. And you'd virtually never see him go to ground.

Still though, the unpolished Rojo would walk into Liverpool's team ahead of talentless cowards like Lovren and Skrtel.
 
http://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...aal-may-come-back-to-haunt-him-30825643.html?

Rodgers' warning to Van Gaal may come back to haunt him

In football they say that when it turns, it turns for the worst - this is because heaven knows how many managers have rushed too quickly to greet a false dawn. And did anyone do it with more shattering consequences than Liverpool's now desperately besieged manager Brendan Rodgers?

Certainly in this forlorn table of misadventure there can be no doubt he is the runaway leader before the Premier League reaches the halfway stage.

After this week's shattering dismissal from the Champions League the charges against him are accumulating faster than one of those Luis Suarez initiatives which in the wide sweep of Liverpool's fast deteriorating situation have come to represent nothing so much as sublime but illusory statements about quite where the team was heading.

The most serious is, of course, the one that says that when Suarez left, as his record suggested he was likely to sooner than later, the much trumpeted team building of Rodgers was exposed as one of modern football's most insubstantial myths.

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It fell away before our eyes and to an extent that even the admittedly damaging injury to Suarez's sorcerer apprentice Daniel Sturridge cannot begin to disguise.

Rodgers bought or, just as grievously, allowed to be bought without public protest, more than £100m worth of resolute mediocrity. On the touchline he looks progressively dismayed and bewildered, and in an example of truly savage fate, at Sunday lunchtime he has to take his pain and his confusion over poor league form and the Champions League exit to, of all places, Manchester United.

There, not only the callous of nature will surely recall that it is still less than six months since Rodgers reacted to a summer tour defeat by United with a full-blown lecture to Louis van Gaal on the difficulties he would face in his first season in the Premier League.

The audacity of his warnings to a man who won La Liga and Bundesliga championships at his first attempts - and, along with a Champions League win for Ajax and a World Cup third place with an ill-considered Dutch team, could claim eight national titles in three separate countries - is only magnified by subsequent events.

At the time Rodgers was also talking up his chances of stepping beyond last season's closely run title challenge. It was in this buoyant mood that he declared: "I think what he (Van Gaal) will find is that the competition in this league will be different to any other he has worked in.

"In a lot of the other leagues there are one or two teams and those are the ones who are expected to win. This is a league where the top team plays the bottom team and on any given day can lose.

"You don't get that a lot in the other leagues. I think the competition will probably take him by surprise and that's from foreign managers I have spoken to over the years. I've worked closely with foreign players who have come in and that real competitive nature will be different to anywhere else he has worked before."

The inherent presumption of Rodgers while addressing a man of such proven achievement was stunning then and is bathed in an even harsher light by recent events.

What is also provokes is a question about the Liverpool manager's basic understanding of the dynamics of football at its highest, most demanding level.

He came to Anfield from Swansea with an enviable reputation for coaching a superior style of football, a passing game that carried forward values established by his predecessor Roberto Martinez. A difficult time at Reading with poor results and a parting by mutual consent after six months was consigned firmly to the past.

At Liverpool he was seen, by no less than Ian St John, as someone to straighten out the ultimately meandering years of Gerard Houllier and Rafa Benitez and Roy Hodgson and the ambush that came to Kenny Dalglish's reputation with his slavish support of the worst of Suarez's behaviour.

Now Rodgers' has the clammy sense of being mired in the same dangerous terrain.

It has become that much more perilous in the wake of Tuesday's essentially dysfunctional performance against Basel, an effort so leaden it was beyond the redemption of the brilliant bolt that came from the most spectacular and accomplished of Steven Gerrard's past.

At the finish Gerrard wore an expression reminiscent of the one worn by the injured Cesc Fabregas when he watched Arsenal lose a League Cup final to the relegated Birmingham City - and promptly defected to Barcelona. Here on Gerrard's face was the same indication of a man who sensed that he had become part of a lost cause.

What is certain is that the patience of the American ownership is moving towards breaking point. There are already reports that they are looking elsewhere and inevitable speculation that even the brilliant Jurgen Klopp's devotion to Borussia Dortmund might be challenged by the prospect of re-making a major European club without the regular need to sell his best players.

The case for giving Rodgers, after the high promise of his first two years, more time is less compelling when you examine his work since the departure of Suarez. Apart from Sturridge, and maybe the Adam Lallana, who was so mysteriously absent from this week's action, the new men have simply failed to suggest they can contribute significantly to a vibrant new Liverpool.

Raheem Sterling's confidence is draining away. The defence remains an area of desperate hope and speculation. The manager's Swansea protégé, Joe Allen, is a peripheral presence.

It was thus hardly surprising that Steve Nicol, a European Cup winner hardly notorious for sniping at his old club, has been forced to a reluctant conclusion.

He says: "If things don't change, then Brendan will ultimately pay the price. The team is completely rudderless. This is a desperate time. He has tried to add to the squad to make things better but somehow it has turned the other way. If the team keeps performing the way they are now I just don't think the owners will have an option."

By comparison Gary Neville's criticism of his old club United is relatively benign. Yes, he said, United got away with murder when they scored their fifth straight win at Southampton but he did allow that under Van Gaal they appeared to have found a "bit of resilience."

That wasn't quite enough to prevent a little cuffing from the man so recently lectured by Rodgers. "Gary Neville is an ex-legend," Van Gaal sneered.

By Sunday afternoon, for Rodgers such a put-down might well be among the least of his hurts.
 
"Then they drag him out by his hair and that's when the begging starts. They'll come to me and say, Ooh, Brendan you were right all along, you were the right man for this job, you're the best man for this job. Will you come back? I'll be like, yeah sure how much money have you got? Because this is going to cost ya, this is going to cost ya."
 
Barney said:
That's a very good, honest interview with him. Hopefully his praise of Markovic indicates he might start on Sunday.
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I think he needs to explain to everybody how selling one First XI player constitutes "starting again from scratch".

That's exactly what he is saying there.
 
Sam said:
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You know it's the smugness that makes me have no sympathy for him. I know he's trying to bring repute and stature back to Liverpool with a bit of arrogance, but my word was he smug last year. He continued that form with that pedantic lecture to Van Gaal at the start of the season. From a man that's had one great season in his career to a man who's had a lifetime of achievements across the continent. It really is schadenfreude to see him fail.
 
Pexbo said:
I think he needs to explain to everybody how selling one First XI player constitutes "starting again from scratch".

That's exactly what he is saying there.
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That's easy, they were pretty much a one man team. Remove that man, they have to start from scratch, they have to "go again", if you will.
 
The club has employed someone who, without being arrogant, believes he can get the best out of a senior player or a youth player. He will always maximise talents he has and I think last year proved that.
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I genuinely thought I'd missed the interview moving on to someone else giving his opinion about Rodgers. Turns out he's just an arrogant bellend who isn't being arrogant. Should have known! :lol:
 
I hope Frank De Boer doesn't replace him. Would love him at Barca one day, he'd be a fine replacement for Van Gaal. The Liverpool job, I fear would kill a bright young manager like him.
 
Brentan: "I can guarantee you that no one can do a better job of being Brentan Rodgers, I know Brentan he's a guy who taught himself everything he knows, so how could anyone be more Brentan than me? He doesn't know a thing that he hasn't personally experienced! How can you be more self taught than that? He's my hero, frankly."
 
“Command is lonely whenever you are at the top end and the leading edge of the game,” he said. “That’s the job from within. I know exactly where we are at. Of course there is a little frustration in terms of where we were for a couple of years and now we are sort of starting again. But it is my job to take responsibility for that. When you are doing well, like last year, then it is down to the players and rightly so, the recruitment is good and everything in the club is good. When you’re doing not so well, then it’s down to the manager. That is football and you learn to deal with that.

“I’ve got to find a way, with the squad of players and the players we have out injured, to release our talent and our football again. That’s the one that is driving me on every single day and I won’t be happy until I get that again. That is something that is driving me on. I certainly don’t doubt myself. I know exactly where we are at and what we would need.”

Brenda, please stahp. :lol::lol:
 
The Red Thinker said:
You know it's the smugness that makes me have no sympathy for him. I know he's trying to bring repute and stature back to Liverpool with a bit of arrogance, but my word was he smug last year. He continued that form with that pedantic lecture to Van Gaal at the start of the season. From a man that's had one great season in his career to a man who's had a lifetime of achievements across the continent. It really is schadenfreude to see him fail.
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Yeah I agree with this. And that celebration he done after Liverpool scored in a game earlier in the season (there was a quality p-taking gif in here after it) just makes me instantly dislike him.
 
He is a decent young manager by all accounts, but the starting again thing and blaming injuries is a bit pathetic. Compared to other teams, like our own, Liverpool are not even close to starting over or being injury hit.
 
I don't actually think the interview is as bad as people are making out. What's he meant to say- 'We are having a shite season and the new players have been an expensive let down'? He has to sound positive outwardly for his players.
I think the media are over-egging the LVG comments too- it wasn't really a 'lecture', more a (probably honestly said) passing comment. The papers certainly have turned on him of late.
 
The following isn't made up, believe it or not - in fact it's taken from a feature in today's Independent:

Brendan Rodgers admits: “I always think in ink.” He is a compulsive note-taker, and a pile of flip charts litter his office at Liverpool’s Melwood training ground. The pages are intermittently decorated by child-like drawings of a stick man, with a crown on his head.

The illustrations, in black marker pen, are indications of individual conversations with his players. “Wear the crown” he tells them, when he senses concern, insecurity or prevarication. “You’re the king of your own destiny.”
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http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...t-become-king-of-his-own-destiny-9923149.html
 
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SteveJ said:
The following isn't made up, believe it or not - in fact it's taken from a feature in today's Independent:
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If I started punching him in the face, I'm not entirely sure when I would stop.
 
"Raheem, what does that picture look like to you?"
"Er, a spunking cock, gaffer?"
"Good. Now imagine there's a crown on the helmet. It looks regal as feck, dunnit?"
"....."
"You're not going to sign that contract, are you?"
 
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