if you were a player i'd imagine it would be tough to take brentan seriously. i'd be pissing myself laughing in that dressing room everytime he opened his gob
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He does seem to be playing to the galleries, calling for more young scouse players etc...Wonder how long people give him in the job? Gone next December?
Brendan Rodgers: "I'm a smug twat. Liverpool are still the best. I planned to be 24 points behind at this stage. We are the best, I'm the best. I am a tactical genius. We played the continental football and deserved to win. I'm a twat."
This is all I ever hear when Rodgers open his mouth, I don't care what he's saying. I've ended up posting Rodgers is a twat three or four times in this thread in the past but I just can't help but criticise the whiny baby, twat, hack.
This is all I ever hear when Rodgers open his mouth, I don't care what he's saying. I've ended up posting Rodgers is a twat three or four times in this thread in the past but I just can't help but criticise the whiny baby, twat, hack.
Love it when he says he can close the gap in coming transfer windows.
Assuming united etc don't strengthen Brendan. You could end up 10 years behind, not just 5
Assuming united etc don't strengthen Brendan. You could end up 10 years behind, not just 5
Rodgers needs a dose of humility. Denial of reality begets loathing, which begets contempt.
When we got dumped out of the CL last season did Fergie ever claim United were close to Barcelona, or Bayern in any sense? Don't think so.
When we got dumped out of the CL last season did Fergie ever claim United were close to Barcelona, or Bayern in any sense? Don't think so.
Amusing that he says he can close the gap with his transfers despite his biggest (Allen) being shite today, Borini looking fairly poor so far (before his injury) and Sturridge, despite his goal, being terribly wasteful with his other chances.
Thing is, truth will see him out of the job. Whereas crap like this will earn him rivers of tears and semen coupled with pseudo-poetic crap.
Found it funny how many times the commentators mentioned his 'philosophy' today. You've got to wonder if any of the past managers would have been sacked if they'd just banged on about their philosophy all the time.
As always they put in a good performance against the top sides, but Liverpool's problems have always been that they're game raisers. I also find it mad that they're seemingly doing nothing to replace Gerrard, he's starting to get on now and they have a midfield of Allen, Lucas, Henderson and Shelvey. You'd have thought they'd have done all they could to secure a talent like Sahin but the manager fecked it and lost someone who was genuinely a top drawer player.
He seems to be surviving purely on the basis that he's playing youngsters, because his chances of having a squad were ruined by Kenny and because his 'philosophy'. You've got to wonder how much longer he'll get such an easy ride for.
As always they put in a good performance against the top sides, but Liverpool's problems have always been that they're game raisers. I also find it mad that they're seemingly doing nothing to replace Gerrard, he's starting to get on now and they have a midfield of Allen, Lucas, Henderson and Shelvey. You'd have thought they'd have done all they could to secure a talent like Sahin but the manager fecked it and lost someone who was genuinely a top drawer player.
He seems to be surviving purely on the basis that he's playing youngsters, because his chances of having a squad were ruined by Kenny and because his 'philosophy'. You've got to wonder how much longer he'll get such an easy ride for.
Under Rodgers, I've found matches against Liverpool to be far less 'scary' than under other managers. Usually, even if they have weaker personnel, Liverpool run forever against us, hassle us into mistakes and generally find a way even if they're not at our level. Rodgers' team, though, are as average and confused as his 'philosophy' - witness how Reina looks to play the ball rather than truly relieve pressure...even if this means his poor kicking leads to chances for the opposition.
Liverpool's performance today was shocking. As bad a Liverpool side to have played at Old Trafford that I can remember.
They were a non-entity for 60 minutes. Our slack play let them back in it and gave them encouragement but it doesn't hide a woeful performance up until then.
Exactly, it was an absolutely abysmal performance in the first half. Second half we gave to them but it was a lesson in the first 45. Liverpool just did not turn up, which is unbelievably surprising since usually they play the game of their lives against us.
I might be that I noticed it more because it was Liverpool, but the number of atrocious passes they played today seemed extremely high for any sort of team.
I guess today's performance is what happens when a Liverpool manager can no longer rely on Gerrard to get him out a hole.
You're all being very harsh. It was a brilliant performance by B-Rod. He did the only thing he could do: The first hour they lulled us into thinking they're cannon fodder, then, when we'd fallen asleep thinking this was a bit too easy to be bothered, they gave their all and got quite close. He or we can't expect any more from this Liverpool side.
What is it that suddenly makes all these Liverpool managers so unlikeable. I thought brendan rodgers was okay when he was at Swansea, now I think he's a cock. I mean it's like they all go to Liverpool and suddenly become as deluded as their fans. Hodgson was the only one who was remotely pleasant while he was there. Chelsea have had so many managers, but I haven't really found any of them annoying (exept now with Rafa).
I think that Rodgers is simply being canny - results have been middling at best, so he sells the dream of a competitive Liverpool to their fans; and he's kept the senior players onside (those allegedly influential in the firing of Rafa Benitez) while acting like the big boss towards younger players. In short, he's looking after himself while finding his way. I suspect, though, that he's not cut-out for the bigger jobs, and his constant proclamations have the opposite effect to the one he intends. I may be wrong in my conclusions, but I've the feeling I'm not. He's FSG's front man though, so he may survive longer than his results deserve.
From Swansea to Liverpool, the jump is too brutal for such an inexperienced coach.After all, he's still learning things at this level but what a fecking arrogant twat he is.He gives interviews like he's been in the PL for over a decade.
Hit the nail on the head. I think he's got the makings of a good manager but the step up from Swansea is just too big. They were only in the PL a year before he jumped ship. He should have done what Solskjaer is doing and focus on getting experience before making the step up. Whilst I agree he does sound like a arrogant twat saying that they've got our quality, he's just trying to breed some confidence into the players. He's not the first manager to do it and he won't be the last.
I agree with you, I just think that motivating your players has to be done in a way it doesn't reach delusion levels.I'm over exagerrating on purpose, you cannot make Allen believe he's like Xavi or Scholes, or can be as good as them in a match or two.
There is the risk the player won't even take the coach seriously
There is the risk the player won't even take the coach seriously
The man is about talk, I won't judge him fully, but so far he's nothing but talks.
They're not exactly playing a blinder, lack of progress if any, they're not better off then with Hodgson, and he's spending a fortune on Allen, Borrini, Sturridge, and the rest of the gangs, and they're not actually playing anywhere better.
The commentator says it best : Liverpool's can afford playing tiki taka at the back against the lower table opponents, but against the big boys they're getting found out, which is exactly what happens in the first half.
The second half is papering over the cracks, should it not be Liverpool we're up against we won't be looking that dodgy, there's too much pride at stake in that football match, and I must admit even I'm getting nervous, we're sitting back and they're having their second wind with it being us. If they're playing Stoke or other teams, they'd probably roll over and get done anyway.
He have no bollocks to take off Gerrard, at times baffling since he offers nothing much on a weekly basis, and you can't actually says he's killing teams, his teams can't win against top 10 so far this season, if it wasn't for Suarez's brilliance (ugh.. that word) they'd be back to where they are with Hodgson.
Kudos for playing the youngster? Well... who else have they got? Playing downing at left back? Loaning Andy Carroll for a meassle amount of 1M when they only have Suarez and borini as striker is an idiotic move, no way West Ham are gonna pay 17.5M at the end no matter how much goals Andy scored, and to be fair he hasn't scored many.
1M is not much, and this saving the wages bill are just random crap spawned by the RAWK to cover up what a shit piece of Business Rodger's has done with Andy Caroll.
All he does is lapping up lines from the RAWK, bravadoes, and making him sounds like they're on their side, but apart from that, meh... he's done nothing to show he's an astute manager, it's Suarez's that has been carrying Liverpool this season.
And to be fair, against cannon fodder, they'd happily let Liverpool have their possession tiki taka amongs themselves, since they're shit at going forward, and if they indeed coming forward it'll be actually handing the opposition the balls anyway.
They're not exactly playing a blinder, lack of progress if any, they're not better off then with Hodgson, and he's spending a fortune on Allen, Borrini, Sturridge, and the rest of the gangs, and they're not actually playing anywhere better.
The commentator says it best : Liverpool's can afford playing tiki taka at the back against the lower table opponents, but against the big boys they're getting found out, which is exactly what happens in the first half.
The second half is papering over the cracks, should it not be Liverpool we're up against we won't be looking that dodgy, there's too much pride at stake in that football match, and I must admit even I'm getting nervous, we're sitting back and they're having their second wind with it being us. If they're playing Stoke or other teams, they'd probably roll over and get done anyway.
He have no bollocks to take off Gerrard, at times baffling since he offers nothing much on a weekly basis, and you can't actually says he's killing teams, his teams can't win against top 10 so far this season, if it wasn't for Suarez's brilliance (ugh.. that word) they'd be back to where they are with Hodgson.
Kudos for playing the youngster? Well... who else have they got? Playing downing at left back? Loaning Andy Carroll for a meassle amount of 1M when they only have Suarez and borini as striker is an idiotic move, no way West Ham are gonna pay 17.5M at the end no matter how much goals Andy scored, and to be fair he hasn't scored many.
1M is not much, and this saving the wages bill are just random crap spawned by the RAWK to cover up what a shit piece of Business Rodger's has done with Andy Caroll.
All he does is lapping up lines from the RAWK, bravadoes, and making him sounds like they're on their side, but apart from that, meh... he's done nothing to show he's an astute manager, it's Suarez's that has been carrying Liverpool this season.
And to be fair, against cannon fodder, they'd happily let Liverpool have their possession tiki taka amongs themselves, since they're shit at going forward, and if they indeed coming forward it'll be actually handing the opposition the balls anyway.
To be fair, it's natural for him to do so, lapping up the fans (specially Liverpool's) will buy him 2-3 seasons, with most of them writting this season as transition (like they always did for the past 5 season)
see what's comes after 2-3 seasons, and no matter what he does, he can't lose, I bet he got all the excuses of failing lines up in his envelopes, even their supporters are probably lining the ussual net spend, conspiracy, transition, not given time, and other bullshit.
It'll take them quite a long time to know that they're midtable clubs now, and that unless they got a messiah in moulds of SAF, they're probably just gonna coast drifting in and out of midtable obscurity.
They're not actually filled with world beaters, Gerrard's way past it, they got nobody worthy of a mention in their midfield, Lucas can only do so much being on defensive role, and their wings is practically non existence, the only thing they're doing at this moment is tiki-taka and pass it to Suarez for him to do his magic, that's all they fecking do to be honest.
They deluded themselves with their Agger-Skrtel partnership and Johnson being the best RB in the league, but they're not actually solid at the back when the likes of Villa hammers them 3-0 down.
Realistically speaking, Jonjo, Raheem, and the rest are just exciting because they're youth prospect, while in reality they're not much better than midtable's veteran.
Henderson's a work horse with not much to offer going forward, it's easy to just run your socks off and closing down aimlessly, it'll paint a different story among the fans, but actually it's just that, braindead harrassing. Probably the same could have been said about the other. The basic platform for playing football with a plan (if they had any) and framework is just not there. They're simply pass pass pass among themselves wtihout pressure, lapping up the possession stat, and leave it to Suarez to do hidding.
If Rodgers was a good manager, the first thing he would have done is never play Gerrard in CM and really reduce his playing time.That was the thing that he showed he was just another generic, deluded Liverpool coach.Gerrard (as good as his passing is) has a game that is based on energy and power, he doesn't have those things anymore and he isn't intelligent enough to have altered his game in recent years.
He's basically a liability
He's basically a liability
Totally agree I said to my mate last night while watching (we sat in a pub with about 15 Liverpool Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime around us who had feck all of a clue about anything, yelling racist shite at Evra and telling us Fabio Borini came from Sampdoria
) that it was either tactical genius from Ferguson or general big game attitude from our players but our pressing in the first half was absolutely sublime. Every player manned up, marked up and hounded Agger and Skrtl and you could tell that neither of them wanted to play hard passes to get the ball out or hoof it.Like I said - Fair play to SAF if that is how he wanted to play it he got it spot on. I said that because in the second half when Lucas came off that we started to press a lot less and start to mark up deeper on the field because of the extra threat that is where we started to drift out of the game slightly.
I don't understand it either. In the PL the fitness levels and the pace is just to high to play out from the back when your defenders are shite on the ball.
Also we counted Downing making 4 touches in the entire first half. (Maybe thats wrong) That is just absolutely fecking woeful.
Reina's distribution under pressure has always been terrible. Every team *should* be trying to get in his face and force a tough pass back to him because he nearly always hoofs it short into the center deliberately or scuffed. That or straight out in their half.
Great with the ball in his hands and with time but under pressure has always been terrible....
For some reason with the international stuff etc I think Gerrard himself 'WANTS' to play deeper in midfield. I don't know why because he's been woeful.
Rogers has basically stamped 4-3-3 on the tactics board and everyone has to follow suit. It alienates Gerrard because his most effective zone is behind a front striker playing off the shoulder. His mobility is dwindling and he's not getting any younger. That has alienated Carroll as he's not good enough to play as anything other than a lumps footballer.
For what it is worth I think Allen is a good player and would have been a good signing for a club needing that type of defensive midfield player but he was not a good signing for Liverpool at that price as well as the glaring deficiencies in his 4-3-3 system with the personal at Liverpool. That for me was a massive mistake signing,
It'll be interesting to see what they're planning to do about that. Until a few years ago they could count on their captain who was admittedly world class and inspirational at times for them. They've got no one remotely like that among their players now and no one coming through their academy either. He's pretty much done now and when Suarez is inevitably off as well - as he's simply too good for them and doesn't have any allegiance to them - they'll be in even more trouble.
They don't have the funds nor the pulling power anymore to compete with the big boys for top players. They need a brilliant manager and a small miracle to get back to where they were in 2009. A midfield of Mascherano, Alonso and Gerrard at their peaks with Torres in the form of his life, they look a league away from that now. I don't see a way up from here in the near future.
Still think Rodgers will end up doing well. He's a class above the glorified cheerleader they had in charge last year and even now LFC are only one place below where that current squad should be.
Brendan Rodgers, the Liverpool manager, was heartened by his side's second-half performance. "We're 24 points behind United now," he said. "But we're not 24 points behind in terms of quality. The points difference is due to the squad. Once we close the gap in the squad in the coming transfer windows, I've got great faith that we'll be able to challenge."
I honestly don't get what he's trying to say here. They're not 24 points behind in terms of quality, and that point difference is due to the squad? Is that the quality of the squad that he's on about? Or what the feck is he trying to say?
Wordsmith gimp.
They had 35 points after 22 games last season.
I liked Rodgers when he was at Swansea and thought he did a good job with the team. He has reversed my views on him since he has moved to Liverpool. Some of his comments are ridiculous and Liverpool's effectiveness on the field has declined. They have become more dependent on Suarez than they were last season.
Swansea meanwhile have become better than they were last season. They have sacrificed some possession numbers but have become a more lethal team. Their possession is actually counting towards more attacks and goals this term. It makes me believe that Rodgers is somewhat obsessed with his philosophy and buys too much into it. You cannot be rigid and have to adapt as a manager, which he seems unwilling to do. He is not playing to Liverpool's strength but forcing them to play to his.
Also, I can't see Suarez staying at Anfield beyond this season. Everyone hates him in England and he surely will be on some bigger teams radar. He is a cnut but a quality player and those don't stay at mid-table clubs for too long.
I doubt Rodgers is the man that'll take Liverpool to dizzying heights. I am not a gambling man but if I was, I would put some one money on him getting the can sometime next season.
I liked Rodgers when he was at Swansea and thought he did a good job with the team. He has reversed my views on him since he has moved to Liverpool. Some of his comments are ridiculous and Liverpool's effectiveness on the field has declined. They have become more dependent on Suarez than they were last season.
Swansea meanwhile have become better than they were last season. They have sacrificed some possession numbers but have become a more lethal team. Their possession is actually counting towards more attacks and goals this term. It makes me believe that Rodgers is somewhat obsessed with his philosophy and buys too much into it. You cannot be rigid and have to adapt as a manager, which he seems unwilling to do. He is not playing to Liverpool's strength but forcing them to play to his.
Also, I can't see Suarez staying at Anfield beyond this season. Everyone hates him in England and he surely will be on some bigger teams radar. He is a cnut but a quality player and those don't stay at mid-table clubs for too long.
I doubt Rodgers is the man that'll take Liverpool to dizzying heights. I am not a gambling man but if I was, I would put some one money on him getting the can sometime next season.
Liverpool plight isnt as bad as some make out. Ok they are miles behind United and City. Chelsea are still well ahead. But they arent so far behind the rest. Only 6 points behind Everton and Arsenal(if they win their game in hand). Spurs are 9 ahead but you can help but think the annual bottling job is on the way. Amazing they are so close after not being able to beat any top 10 side. Just shows how weak the teams chasing fourth really are.
I suppose they were in a better position this time last year. Maybe the gap will probably grow between them fourth.
I suppose they were in a better position this time last year. Maybe the gap will probably grow between them fourth.
I just don't see what team needs the baggage that comes with Suarez.
Madrid and Barca don't need him, I don't think the Italian teams (maybe Juve who are signing Llorente) can afford him and I don't think the like of PSG need him.
Where would he go?
Any time I've seen him he's come across VERY 'David Brent'.
But hey he's telling the fans what they want to hear so they'll swallow it all and actually believe that they're not 24 points behind, you know, in terms of quality, obviously, in terms of reality, they actually are 24 points behind.
But hey he's telling the fans what they want to hear so they'll swallow it all and actually believe that they're not 24 points behind, you know, in terms of quality, obviously, in terms of reality, they actually are 24 points behind.
Thats the description I've been looking for, very accurate. An interesting facht about them this season is that they have not beaten one team above them in the table. Hardly a sign of progress is it?
But every time they lost, they lost in a way that was encouraging that they would win regularly at a yet unspecified time in the future.
Progress!
“Well, you’re not looking at the whole pie, Shreevesy. Liverpool football club is one big pie, and if they’ve let me in charge of that one big pie, then I’ll be in charge of the pie, and the people are the fruit."
Is Brendan Rodgers really that good?
Swansea don't seem to be doing any worse without him and Liverpool haven't really improved with him.
Swansea don't seem to be doing any worse without him and Liverpool haven't really improved with him.
This would have him sacked after a while. Like dropping Terry in one swoop you would have lost the crowd and the dressing room.
That's because at Swansea he just tweaked slightly what had already been done by Martinez, he had bugger all to do with the majority of their development. I'd argue that this season under Laudrup they have become much more effective in going forward under his leadership than they were last year under Rodgers.
Swansea have gone up a good level or two without him.
jury is still out; would have expected them to have won more games at this point than they have
as much as the scousers hate to admit it; its a medium to long term project. There are no quick wins with the squad that they have
as much as the scousers hate to admit it; its a medium to long term project. There are no quick wins with the squad that they have
Still, I'd have thought that such an allegedly promising young manager would've been able to get at least one shock win against teams further up the table. And we're talking about Liverpool here, not QPR and the likes who have proved capable of getting the odd outstanding result despite their troubles. Even if Liverpool's squad isn't all that, a truly promising coach would've found a way to win once or twice. Also, I see little evidence of this supposed stylish, effective passing game.
In the last two years they have spent just over over 154mil and have had no really improvement in terms of league position.
Signings since Jan 2011
Fabio Borini £10,000,000
Joe Allen £15,000,000
Oussama Assaidi £2,300,000
Samed Yesil £1,000,000
Daniel Sturridge £12,000,000
Jordan Henderson £16,000,000
Charlie Adam £7,000,000
Doni Free
Stewart Downing £20,000,000
Sanchez Jose Enrique £6,300,000
Sebastian Coates £7,000,000
Craig Bellamy Free
Luis Suarez £23,000,000
Andrew Carroll £35,000,000
and have had no really improvement in terms of league position. Signings since Jan 2011
Fabio Borini £10,000,000
Joe Allen £15,000,000
Oussama Assaidi £2,300,000
Samed Yesil £1,000,000
Daniel Sturridge £12,000,000
Jordan Henderson £16,000,000
Charlie Adam £7,000,000
Doni Free
Stewart Downing £20,000,000
Sanchez Jose Enrique £6,300,000
Sebastian Coates £7,000,000
Craig Bellamy Free
Luis Suarez £23,000,000
Andrew Carroll £35,000,000
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